thcmike
Bluelighter
If someones used to 20/25mg of oxycodone, whats a good dose of methadone to do? I don't know if i trust conversion charts 100 percent and i just want a little more help.
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Methadone question
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psychopath
Bluelighter
Methadone also will decrease the effectiveness of other opiates for a day or so.
Conversion charts are used by doctors when changing opiates.
4.5-6 mg oxycodone = 20 mg methadone
Conversion charts are used by doctors when changing opiates.
4.5-6 mg oxycodone = 20 mg methadone
thcmike
Bluelighter
Well it's just that some say 20mg is like 3mg of methadone, some are saying stuff like you guys and I just don't wanna over do it of course.
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
I would not go over 10mgs of methadone. Methadone is a very strong opiate. 10mgs will have you feeling good when you are only taking 20/25mg of oxycodone. 30mg of methadone like mentioned above will be over powering imo.
psychopath
Bluelighter
I believe it is the reverse, 3 mg oxy = 20mg methadone. Google is a great source for conversion issues.
thcmike
Bluelighter
I wouldn't dream of going over 10 right now.
This chart here says 20mg of oxy = 3mg of methadone, no?
http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm
Also I've done google but in a dosing question like this I'd rather play it safe.
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
You are correct in not wanting to overdose on it. Methadone last between 8-12 hours because of the long half life. You may still feel it the next day, depending when you take it. The high is nothing like the oxycodone high & its more like a sedated long buzz. Its different.
You can always take more......but with methadone, it takes several hours to even peak so becareful. Imo, tale 10mgs & that should be plenty.
psychopath
Bluelighter
Roger that thcmike, that site and Wikipedia was my source. Wiki says 4.5-6mg oxy = to 20mg methadone.
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
thcmike
Bluelighter
I think I'm gonna start out with 5mg, just to be safe. Sound alright?
TheLostBoys
Bluelighter
I took 5mgs of Methadone my first time about a month ago & it had me where I wanted to be. I have a low tolerance that is why I chose 5mg instead of 10mg. My cousin took 10mgs the same day as me & he said he wouldnt go over that because it would have been too strong.
5mgs is a good starting point, enjoy!
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
10mg should be a good starting dose, I wouldn't go over that. 20mg is too much for someone who has never tried it. Don't redose! The effects take about 2-2.5 hours to fully kick. Its effects last like 12 hours. Its much different than oxycodone.
The opioid conversion chart I use says this: Many equianalgesic tables underestimate methadone potency - more studies are needed. Equivalence to 30mg Morphine Parenteral: Program utilizes 10mg for short-term dosing and 2 mg for chronic dosing. Oral: Program utilizes 20mg for short-term dosing and 3 mg for chronic dosing.
30mg of Morphine is equivalent to 20mg Oxycodone so some charts will say that the two are equivalent for short-term treatment but only 3mg for chronic dosing. From experience neither are correct. I'd say Methadone is a little more than twice as potent.
The opioid conversion chart I use says this: Many equianalgesic tables underestimate methadone potency - more studies are needed. Equivalence to 30mg Morphine Parenteral: Program utilizes 10mg for short-term dosing and 2 mg for chronic dosing. Oral: Program utilizes 20mg for short-term dosing and 3 mg for chronic dosing.
30mg of Morphine is equivalent to 20mg Oxycodone so some charts will say that the two are equivalent for short-term treatment but only 3mg for chronic dosing. From experience neither are correct. I'd say Methadone is a little more than twice as potent.
psychopath
Bluelighter
For whatever it is worth, my first methadone experience was when I had about a 30 mg a day hydrocodone habit. I took 30 mg of methadone at the recommendation of my jackass friend. I do not remember the last 4 hours I was awake and woke up face down on my carpet with a cigarette burn in the carpet with cigarette attached and the burn was the length of the entire cigarette. I also had a total of 6 holes in my clothes.
If you are concerned about over doing it, take more than you think you should initially. Take more if needed. It is better to not get as high your first time than to wake up in the ambulance after they have given you the Narcan.......
If you are concerned about over doing it, take more than you think you should initially. Take more if needed. It is better to not get as high your first time than to wake up in the ambulance after they have given you the Narcan.......
I agree with K'd out. I have a 7yr opiate history - taking oxy every single day and starting my habit (seems like a long long long time ago) with OxyContin a10 mnd methadone, I would say the following (my advise based on personal experiences):
Take 7.5 mg to be super cautious. Take 10 .if you just want to 'feel something' (.. It'll surprise you). I find it quite powerful, different than oxy, hydrocodone, hyromorphone (obviously, yes...but unusually? For me, indeed). Make sure you really give it a good couple to few hours to kick in and let yourself feel it. Don't re-dose for at LEAST 3 hours. I don't think y
Take 7.5 mg to be super cautious. Take 10 .if you just want to 'feel something' (.. It'll surprise you). I find it quite powerful, different than oxy, hydrocodone, hyromorphone (obviously, yes...but unusually? For me, indeed). Make sure you really give it a good couple to few hours to kick in and let yourself feel it. Don't re-dose for at LEAST 3 hours. I don't think y