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Opioids Methadone prescribed with other Opiates, why?

^dont bring old threads back for worthless mini-trip reports.

Normally I'd close the thread after this but its a good thread with Mr.JJ, djsim, Tchort and others.

In general, don't bring back old threads unless you are actually contributing something.
 
I was on 375 mg of methadone (liquid) could not feel any other opiates, even if i took 4x brand 80mg oxys. Before i was on the liquid i was on 240 mg of the methadone wafers, even when i was on them, i could not get off on high amounts of Heroin. that was years ago. I tried to stay sober and clean, but have such severe pain from a woman on a cell phone deciding not to use her brake pedal when i was at a complete stop and she was going 50+ mph, i have 6 cracked disks, all which are herniated ontop of it. i am now on 40 methadone (10mg)4x's a day, pills along with 6x norco's (10/325) and it works alright for my back pain, methadone at higher doses does not block the opiate but it makes your tolerance so high that it is damn near physically impossible to catch a buzz/high from anything including heroin. I would try and do H and wouldnt feel a thing. Whatsoever. I ended up kicking the methadone for a while, went back to H, and after a week without the methadone i could feel all the opiates again,(dilaudid, norcos, demmys, MS Contin, Oxys) all that stuff, suboxone and the buro are the only ones that have the Naloxone in them to block opiates. there are other drugs out there that are for opioid blockers too such as naltrexone. I am trying to get put on my regular 40 mg of methadone+ roxys for breaththrough or dilaudid, i think they are the best combo. But no methadone does not block the opioid it just gives u a tolerance from hell in which you could do enough opiates to kill a horse and you will still be standing. This is from personal experience, i am not a doctor, just explaining what my, and many friends of mine went through. Also i notice if you stay on a low dose of methadone (40mg a day for isntance) you can feel other opiates such as norcos, dilaudids, roxys, all of that, and actually get pretty much the full effect.
 
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I was prescribed 30mg roxi's with 50mg's methadone per day a long time ago. The methadone kills any recreational potential of the other opiate, but not the pain killing properties apparently.
 
It definitely has pain killing effects, at least for me. It doesn't cover my pain 100%, maybe 80-90%. But the analgesia probably differs by the type of pain you have. I have nerve pain, that wasn't caused by an accident. For someone after an accident or something it probably wouldn't work so well. When I went in for labor, I was given an epidural that consisted of some ***caine(local analgesic) and fentanyl. Almost worked 100%. There is lots of types of pain that methadone doesn't cover for me, but it does cover my chronic pain as well as I can as for.

Also, it does give me a small amount of euphoria, especially after I take it. While my family and friends say that I act mostly like I am sober, after I dose I am slightly different for the first few hours. More opiate like, they say. And I can feel it. I just took my dose and I feel slight euphoria. I have been on this stuff for a while and I am happy with its effects.
 
I would imagine that Rx combos like that have the methadone in there for breakthrough pain (with its long half-life)... but no methadone doesn't actually "block" the high from other opiates, like suboxone/bupe does. In fact lower doses of methadone provide a synergy with other opiates, and provide a stronger overall nod.

However, people maintained on methadone for a long period of time have a diminished capacity to get high on other opiates since the constant 24/7 stimulation of the opioid receptors by methadone desensitizes the persons brain to opiates in general, ESPECIALLY any 'rush' aspect to the high. They will inevitably need more of any opiate to get high, and even then the rush is greatly marginalized.

And of course the higher the maintenance dose, the more methadone essentially drowns out any extra opiates, more so than blocking them. It is very dangerous to try punching through this drowning effect because even attempting to get an appreciable rush will require possibly lethal doses.
 
I don't think you'll feel anything from a few lortabs with 100mg methadone tolerance. Might as well just toss that fucking darvocet unless you really need it for pain(does it even work for that?)

Don't try to get high off darvocet.
 
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