I did read through, I guess I misunderstood what the poster was talking about.
You should quote the person you're replying to next time.
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I did read through, I guess I misunderstood what the poster was talking about.
You should quote the person you're replying to next time.
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Yeah, I should quote it, sorry for that.
And for Methadone, I believe you can break through the blockage. With Suboxone I don't believe you can. I'm just going by what my doctor said so I believe him. But yeah, with METHADONE I believe you can take really strong opiates to break through. I know you can't with heroin (smoked/1-2 bags) or oxycodone (oral/up to 80mg) as when I relapsed I tried taking these to no avail. My friend was IV'ing it and I think he looked high.
Fentanyl and oxymorphone IV should break through.
Yeah, my doctor said high doses morphine and hydromorphone do the trick aswell.
Surprised heroin didn't breakthrough because my methadone doctor told me high doses of morphine will breakthrough.
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Well, I smoked my heroin because I was quitting IV. My friend looked like he got high, he IV'd it. He didn't say if he was high or not, I never ask, when we used we aould just kick back in the garage that my friend made into a room with a couple couches and a TV and other stuff. We did a pretty good job.
Hmmm, maybe it's because you smoked it. If you would've IV'd it I think you would've gotten high. Because I had asked my methadone doctor before about this like what if one day I had surgery or I needed opioids in the ER and he specifically told me that morphine and hydromorphone would be able to control the pain in high enough doses. So I assume fentanyl and oxymorphone would too.
'medicine cabinet'
Bluelighter
I too have worried about this, like what if i were knocked out and they had to cut me or do something that would require pain meds and give me like 10mg of morphine or something lol.
ive always been told that in a situation when an addict needs pain medicine the addiction aspect goes out the window and the dr's primary concern is to treat the patient and make him or her comfortable. This is done by giving higher doses of the same pain meds other ppl get, dilaudid seems to be the most common for an opiate tolerant person or someone on OMT since its short acting and very potent and can be redosed more often.
and until science comes up with a better cheaper alternative to things like morphine and dilaudid and all that, its going to be the gold standard for moderate to severe pain. things like torridol can only do so much.
ive always been told that in a situation when an addict needs pain medicine the addiction aspect goes out the window and the dr's primary concern is to treat the patient and make him or her comfortable. This is done by giving higher doses of the same pain meds other ppl get, dilaudid seems to be the most common for an opiate tolerant person or someone on OMT since its short acting and very potent and can be redosed more often.
and until science comes up with a better cheaper alternative to things like morphine and dilaudid and all that, its going to be the gold standard for moderate to severe pain. things like torridol can only do so much.
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I worry about this from time to time too, I am on suboxone maintenance. I've pondered carrying a medic-alert stating that I am on bupe (LEVO-DROMORON/PALFIUM ONLY!!!!) Unfortunately most medical professionals are pretty ignorant about these topics and I think the answer would depend on the knowledge level of your treatment team and that might be pretty shallow
It's a scary thought.
can you be prescribed this "Levorphanol" ? in the USA??
K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Bluelighter
Yeah, I can't comment on Morphine or Hydromorphone IV because I'm not sure whether or not it would or wouldn't. All I know is that I believe something like Fentanyl should work. What I was told by my doctor was that they would just temporarily up my dose of the Methadone for pain. I was also told a shetic and benzo would be administered.
raver2008
Bluelighter
I've worried about this as well, im taking carpentry in school and of course around dangerous tools and airhead teenages, in the event of an accident it would be horrible to have to just deal with it.
Addyman
Bluelighter
The reason Eminem relapsed was because he broke his leg, docs told him "no meds cuz u were a hydrocodone addict"
Then he goes into his basement, finds a drawer with 7x10mg vicodin + some valiums
Om nom nom cuz his leg hurt
This is an old thread, but would high doses of fentanyl/sufentanyl IV break through the methadone blockade?
Would Etorphine/Carfentanil in really small doses (like 100µg/10µg maximum respectively) EVER be used in humans, or is that strictly large animal elephant tranquilizer type shit only? lol
Would Etorphine/Carfentanil in really small doses (like 100µg/10µg maximum respectively) EVER be used in humans, or is that strictly large animal elephant tranquilizer type shit only? lol
Addyman
Bluelighter
Morphine, fentanyl, oxymorphone, hydromorphone
d3Xo-fan
Bluelighter
Well Dexter uses Etorphine to knock out his victims 
But Carfentanil and Lofentanil are used only with elephants and such I believe.
But Carfentanil and Lofentanil are used only with elephants and such I believe.
I had my hand cut open by a sword (long, retarded story) and had to go to the ER to get it stitched up. I told them i was on 100mg of methadone, and because of this, they assumed (correctly) that I was a drug abuser. They gave me local injections of lidocaine while they stitched it up, but I got nothing for pain to take with me . They said the methadone would take care of it, which it didn't really, but at least they fixed my hand and its fine now .
The short of it is, once they know you are on methadone, they might be reluctant to give you any sort of opiates/opioids because they think you will abuse any med they give you.
The short of it is, once they know you are on methadone, they might be reluctant to give you any sort of opiates/opioids because they think you will abuse any med they give you.