For anyone who has gone to a methadone clinic, you know it sucks. You got to be there at a certain time, wait in line, and if you get sick before 24 hours is up (which can happen because of methadones half-life), you're screwed. And there are other issues, like 35mg being far to low for people used to fentanyl, not to mention the cost of a building and full time staff to basically do the job of a vending machine.
So why not make a vending machine that gives out, not methadone, but already-FDA-approved fentanyl (non for OUD)? It could be kind of like an ATM machine that gets installed in someone's house. It could have a screen and camera, to make sure the patient was the one getting the dose, and could even do teleheath with the doctor. It could connect to wifi, and have a cell phone inside, to make sure it wasn't tampered with or stolen. And since the machine would only be for 1 patient (or maybe 2 in the case of couples), there really wouldn't be that much incentive to steal the machine, no more than an oxycodone script, and far less than stealing an actual ATM machine.
Once a month (or maybe once every 3 months after the first year), a tech could bring out a month's supply of fentanyl, plus maybe 50% extra, which would allow for remote dosage increase, and a reserve in case the tech missed the refill. Instead of methadone that only could be dosed once a day, this could dispense multiple times a day. The tech could also allow for some fancy possibilities, like dispensing a snortable powder that had to be snorted in front of the camera, so it couldn't be diverted, or letting the machine do a drug test to make sure the person wasn't using more than prescribed. While some of these things could create "nanny state" issues, like making someone relapse on fentanyl because they tested positive for weed, if implemented correctly it could save lives.
I've tried multiple antidepressants and "psychiatry", and the only drugs that work for my depression are fentanyl and heroin. Currently psychiatrists just call this "treatment resistant depression", but there is clearly a treatment, which is largely why 100,000 people die every year from street opiates while probably millions more safely use them. Pretending that millions of people risk their freedom, lives, and a huge chunk of their income, for "no reason", or pure hedonism, or because they are "addicted" and just can't "get clean", is so stupid. People don't risk their life to get high unless they don't care very much about it, which is almost the definition of depression. People take pain killers to "kill pain", and the brain doesn't really differentiate between physical pain and emotional pain. That's because historically being poor and old an alone EQUATED to death - it's both a miracle AND paradoxically horrible that we've made it that someone can have no money or family or hope for a better life BUT can still survive for 40 or 50 more years. No wonder people kill themselves - nature can't, people don't starve anymore (Trump might have just changed this, but locking poor people up for stealing food will cost more than feeding them, so I think taking away food stamps was mostly a hollow promise. Billionaires tax cuts will likely just get added to the national debt).
For one thing, if I wanted to get high, I could get much higher smoking crack. I don't want to "get high", I want to get high AND not be miserable. The truth is a lot of people just have miserable lives, they are old and poor and alone and maybe sick and maybe actually dying. I hate to say it, but I think the 60,000 who kill themselves, and 100,000 who OD, aren't a "problem", they are a solution, for the ruling class. After all, it's not the millionaires and billionaires killing themselves, it's mostly poor old men. But if giving them a box of drugs that cost less than cable TV was the solution, and kept them working, (and it was cheaper than the money currently spent on psychiatrists and Prozac), maybe it would be worth doing? After all, America is facing population decline, and the 20 and 30 year olds OD'ing and sitting in prison for drug crimes could be working. Plus, this would crush the demand for illicit fentanyl - something methadone clinics don't do. Because people don't want methadone, they want fentanyl. But you can't give someone a 30 day script for yummy yummy fentanyl, it'll be gone in 2 weeks and they'll be buying more. But a machine that dispensed fentanyl 3 times a day? Or whatever someone's schedule was? (You could even try to make sure they didn't use within 1-2 hours of driving, something the Methadone clinic literally forces. Though there seems to be no evidence that it even causes problems - I wrecked once because of the Methadone clinic, and it was trying to get there before it closed, not after dosing).
If any blue lighters want to support my Kickstarter, I'll need an ATM machine, an ounce of fentanyl, $20,000, another ounce of fentanyl to put in the machine
, and a meeting with Pfizer. Honestly though, this could be a billion dollar industry - it would create a ton of jobs, while giving people something they want, and providing a solution to a problem that government will pay for. It's not like the technology isn't there. But I know when I went to the methadone clinic, everyone said methadone was so addicting I'd be there forever. I got up to 75mg and quit, they wouldn't even raise me up enough to get off sick, and it caused such bad heartburn I felt like it was putting a hole through my chest. I think if people want to fight addiction, giving people drugs in the form they are used to them might be an important step. An orange film that absorbs through your mouth and makes your teeth fall out probably isn't as good as a powder that tastes like "fentanyl" which tastes "cut" which tastes like the same cut the cartels used to cut heroin with. Addicts brains have built that association for maybe 10 or 15 or 20 years - why try to reinvent the wheel? Even people who inject probably started snorting, so market it as a "snortable powder" or even a "drinkable powder", but if it gets sorted (or injected), at least it won't be full of Xylazine. Plus the ATM idea could technically let people "taper off" opiates using just opiates. But each person could discuss their goals with their doctor, so most people would probably stay on for life, which appears to be the only effective way not to relapse (obviously, since the whole opiate crisis was started by doctors thinking they could force people who didn't want to off painkillers).
I don't have the money to make this happen, but it seems like it could make a fortune while both improving the quality of life for addicts AND preventing the next generation of addicts. Because America will never stop buying opioids as long as there is billions of dollars in demand and literally million-person strong distribution networks. What makes the drug market so robust isn't even the cartel, it's that probably every junkie knows about 5 others who know 5 others. And since drugs are expensive everyone is always desperate for money, so even if every DEALER I knew got arrested tomorrow, even if they got arrested because I personally testified against them, I could still go buy go drugs as long as I had money. I can go buy fentanyl off 5 people right now. But know what I can't buy? Weed. If I want weed, I have to go to a store. But if I want weed from Mexico, I'd probably have to go there. That's what this machine could do for fentanyl - eliminate illicit demand. Who would pay $3,000/mo if they could get better shit from their health insurance for free? And thats all money that could stay in the US, instead of ruining lives in Mexico.
I actually first thought this up as just a time-relessed safe that would let people with no will power dispense heroin to themselves. I had 2 gs I wanted to last me 5 days before I went to rehab, and I did them all in 3 days. I don't know if it's possible to "taper" off opiates or not. I think it might be, but the timeframe is probably a lot longer than people think, and in the case of depression it's maybe never possible (or possible only if someones life improves). But now we have a situation where someones life sucks, they take opiates, then it sucks worse because of the expense, stigma, legal consequences of taking opiates. And then they are stuck in a spiral that ends in death (overdose or suicide, which are basically one in the same). Idiots blame the drugs, we blame the war on drugs, but this would solve that. Now, your life goes to shit, you try a couple antidepressants, those don't work, and boom, you got fentanyl on tap for as long as you need. I didn't do opiates until i was 28 - a breakup turned into addiction into bankruptcy and prison, then relapse because of both abuse in prison + still being poor. America is like winner take all. I was *almost* rich enough that I would have been rich forever, short of like a gambling addiction or getting into options trading. Now I'm at 0 and probably going to die, either from overdose or suicide (with a note probably being about the only difference). It sucks, some people don't have anything because they don't work for anything - because they have fun teenage years and fun 20's ; i didn't even get those. I worked like hell, just to blow 100k in a year on drugs. Now i can still work but I make a quarter of what I used to, and it just isn't worth it. I'm miserable without fentanyl, and even if i worked 24/7 i couldn't pay for my habit. I was going to use an SBA loan to buy a business, and would have made over 20k a month; now i can't make 20k a year, and am in pain almost every day. It's hell. Everyone says "go to a psychiatrist", but they literally don't care if you get better. It's the modern day equivalent of doctors "balancing the 4 humors", they prescribe like 4 things, and if those don't work, they tell you to "see a therapist" until you get bored or kill yourself. The whole profession is like something for kids that were good in school or had rich parents to do to make a lot of money. Gemini could probably replace every psychiatrist right now, but it's not a job, it's a license to print money. The government lets veterans go homeless, then buys them "psychiatrists", to prescribe them drugs that are 2% more effective than a placebo. While it has pain killers so good that dying cancer patients don't care they are dying. And why do people take these miracle drugs? Because they are addicted and can't quit and need treatment. Yeah, okay. And I'm also addicted to pussy, and wish big brother would cut my dick off so I could spend more time working. I don't even think the people who say this shit believe it, i think they just get paid a lot to say it.
So why not make a vending machine that gives out, not methadone, but already-FDA-approved fentanyl (non for OUD)? It could be kind of like an ATM machine that gets installed in someone's house. It could have a screen and camera, to make sure the patient was the one getting the dose, and could even do teleheath with the doctor. It could connect to wifi, and have a cell phone inside, to make sure it wasn't tampered with or stolen. And since the machine would only be for 1 patient (or maybe 2 in the case of couples), there really wouldn't be that much incentive to steal the machine, no more than an oxycodone script, and far less than stealing an actual ATM machine.
Once a month (or maybe once every 3 months after the first year), a tech could bring out a month's supply of fentanyl, plus maybe 50% extra, which would allow for remote dosage increase, and a reserve in case the tech missed the refill. Instead of methadone that only could be dosed once a day, this could dispense multiple times a day. The tech could also allow for some fancy possibilities, like dispensing a snortable powder that had to be snorted in front of the camera, so it couldn't be diverted, or letting the machine do a drug test to make sure the person wasn't using more than prescribed. While some of these things could create "nanny state" issues, like making someone relapse on fentanyl because they tested positive for weed, if implemented correctly it could save lives.
I've tried multiple antidepressants and "psychiatry", and the only drugs that work for my depression are fentanyl and heroin. Currently psychiatrists just call this "treatment resistant depression", but there is clearly a treatment, which is largely why 100,000 people die every year from street opiates while probably millions more safely use them. Pretending that millions of people risk their freedom, lives, and a huge chunk of their income, for "no reason", or pure hedonism, or because they are "addicted" and just can't "get clean", is so stupid. People don't risk their life to get high unless they don't care very much about it, which is almost the definition of depression. People take pain killers to "kill pain", and the brain doesn't really differentiate between physical pain and emotional pain. That's because historically being poor and old an alone EQUATED to death - it's both a miracle AND paradoxically horrible that we've made it that someone can have no money or family or hope for a better life BUT can still survive for 40 or 50 more years. No wonder people kill themselves - nature can't, people don't starve anymore (Trump might have just changed this, but locking poor people up for stealing food will cost more than feeding them, so I think taking away food stamps was mostly a hollow promise. Billionaires tax cuts will likely just get added to the national debt).
For one thing, if I wanted to get high, I could get much higher smoking crack. I don't want to "get high", I want to get high AND not be miserable. The truth is a lot of people just have miserable lives, they are old and poor and alone and maybe sick and maybe actually dying. I hate to say it, but I think the 60,000 who kill themselves, and 100,000 who OD, aren't a "problem", they are a solution, for the ruling class. After all, it's not the millionaires and billionaires killing themselves, it's mostly poor old men. But if giving them a box of drugs that cost less than cable TV was the solution, and kept them working, (and it was cheaper than the money currently spent on psychiatrists and Prozac), maybe it would be worth doing? After all, America is facing population decline, and the 20 and 30 year olds OD'ing and sitting in prison for drug crimes could be working. Plus, this would crush the demand for illicit fentanyl - something methadone clinics don't do. Because people don't want methadone, they want fentanyl. But you can't give someone a 30 day script for yummy yummy fentanyl, it'll be gone in 2 weeks and they'll be buying more. But a machine that dispensed fentanyl 3 times a day? Or whatever someone's schedule was? (You could even try to make sure they didn't use within 1-2 hours of driving, something the Methadone clinic literally forces. Though there seems to be no evidence that it even causes problems - I wrecked once because of the Methadone clinic, and it was trying to get there before it closed, not after dosing).
If any blue lighters want to support my Kickstarter, I'll need an ATM machine, an ounce of fentanyl, $20,000, another ounce of fentanyl to put in the machine
, and a meeting with Pfizer. Honestly though, this could be a billion dollar industry - it would create a ton of jobs, while giving people something they want, and providing a solution to a problem that government will pay for. It's not like the technology isn't there. But I know when I went to the methadone clinic, everyone said methadone was so addicting I'd be there forever. I got up to 75mg and quit, they wouldn't even raise me up enough to get off sick, and it caused such bad heartburn I felt like it was putting a hole through my chest. I think if people want to fight addiction, giving people drugs in the form they are used to them might be an important step. An orange film that absorbs through your mouth and makes your teeth fall out probably isn't as good as a powder that tastes like "fentanyl" which tastes "cut" which tastes like the same cut the cartels used to cut heroin with. Addicts brains have built that association for maybe 10 or 15 or 20 years - why try to reinvent the wheel? Even people who inject probably started snorting, so market it as a "snortable powder" or even a "drinkable powder", but if it gets sorted (or injected), at least it won't be full of Xylazine. Plus the ATM idea could technically let people "taper off" opiates using just opiates. But each person could discuss their goals with their doctor, so most people would probably stay on for life, which appears to be the only effective way not to relapse (obviously, since the whole opiate crisis was started by doctors thinking they could force people who didn't want to off painkillers).I don't have the money to make this happen, but it seems like it could make a fortune while both improving the quality of life for addicts AND preventing the next generation of addicts. Because America will never stop buying opioids as long as there is billions of dollars in demand and literally million-person strong distribution networks. What makes the drug market so robust isn't even the cartel, it's that probably every junkie knows about 5 others who know 5 others. And since drugs are expensive everyone is always desperate for money, so even if every DEALER I knew got arrested tomorrow, even if they got arrested because I personally testified against them, I could still go buy go drugs as long as I had money. I can go buy fentanyl off 5 people right now. But know what I can't buy? Weed. If I want weed, I have to go to a store. But if I want weed from Mexico, I'd probably have to go there. That's what this machine could do for fentanyl - eliminate illicit demand. Who would pay $3,000/mo if they could get better shit from their health insurance for free? And thats all money that could stay in the US, instead of ruining lives in Mexico.
I actually first thought this up as just a time-relessed safe that would let people with no will power dispense heroin to themselves. I had 2 gs I wanted to last me 5 days before I went to rehab, and I did them all in 3 days. I don't know if it's possible to "taper" off opiates or not. I think it might be, but the timeframe is probably a lot longer than people think, and in the case of depression it's maybe never possible (or possible only if someones life improves). But now we have a situation where someones life sucks, they take opiates, then it sucks worse because of the expense, stigma, legal consequences of taking opiates. And then they are stuck in a spiral that ends in death (overdose or suicide, which are basically one in the same). Idiots blame the drugs, we blame the war on drugs, but this would solve that. Now, your life goes to shit, you try a couple antidepressants, those don't work, and boom, you got fentanyl on tap for as long as you need. I didn't do opiates until i was 28 - a breakup turned into addiction into bankruptcy and prison, then relapse because of both abuse in prison + still being poor. America is like winner take all. I was *almost* rich enough that I would have been rich forever, short of like a gambling addiction or getting into options trading. Now I'm at 0 and probably going to die, either from overdose or suicide (with a note probably being about the only difference). It sucks, some people don't have anything because they don't work for anything - because they have fun teenage years and fun 20's ; i didn't even get those. I worked like hell, just to blow 100k in a year on drugs. Now i can still work but I make a quarter of what I used to, and it just isn't worth it. I'm miserable without fentanyl, and even if i worked 24/7 i couldn't pay for my habit. I was going to use an SBA loan to buy a business, and would have made over 20k a month; now i can't make 20k a year, and am in pain almost every day. It's hell. Everyone says "go to a psychiatrist", but they literally don't care if you get better. It's the modern day equivalent of doctors "balancing the 4 humors", they prescribe like 4 things, and if those don't work, they tell you to "see a therapist" until you get bored or kill yourself. The whole profession is like something for kids that were good in school or had rich parents to do to make a lot of money. Gemini could probably replace every psychiatrist right now, but it's not a job, it's a license to print money. The government lets veterans go homeless, then buys them "psychiatrists", to prescribe them drugs that are 2% more effective than a placebo. While it has pain killers so good that dying cancer patients don't care they are dying. And why do people take these miracle drugs? Because they are addicted and can't quit and need treatment. Yeah, okay. And I'm also addicted to pussy, and wish big brother would cut my dick off so I could spend more time working. I don't even think the people who say this shit believe it, i think they just get paid a lot to say it.
