Opioids Methadone first time questions

[marienbad]

Alright, so I've come into possession of one half of a 10mg methadone tablet - so, roughly 5mg. I do have an opiate tolerance of some sort at the moment, as I've been railing anywhere from 7.5 to 15mg oxymorphone every other night for the past ten days (no more left, alas). I also used those a couple times last month - and prior to that I have a lot of experience smoking heroin, which I've found has kind of created a permanent if slight tolerance to opiates.

But... my tolerance is by no means huge; I never have used opiates in ridiculously large amounts (e.g. never done more than 15mg oxymorphone; in fact, the only opiates I've done, period, are the opana, heroin, vicodin maybe 5-10 times and tramadol once). And I'm generally pretty lightweight when it comes to any drugs, especially for the first time. Basically, I just want to be really careful with this.

I've heard a LOT of very conflicting information about methadone dosage, what with one Erowid report claiming to get extremely sick after taking just 1mg. That's probably an abberration, but still... I dunno.

What, given my tolerance and everything else, would be a reasonable amount to take? Simply the whole 5mg? I know some of you are probably reading this thinking, fuck man, just take it all - that's nothing! But I feel very nervous because of the supposed potency of this drug and, as I said, it's hard to find solid dosage info... and I don't want to OD or get sick obviously.
Just three other questions:
1) How long exactly does methadone last? I've heard as much as a whole 24 hours, which sounds kind of crazy. Basically, I'm wondering, would it be a bad idea to take this stuff around or after like 7 or 8PM? If I did, would I even be able to get to sleep that night? Would I be off-balance the next day upon waking up, or would I be still feeling euphoric and nodding, etc?
2)Is it possible to mix with Xanax in a very small dose and enjoy oneself without going to the ER? I'm talking about like 1.5mg or less of Xanax, and I already kind of have a built-in tolerance to benzos due to being prescribed 1.5mg klonopin every night.
3) Best way to take this stuff - I assume just swallow like normal? I've read about some other way to ingest orally which speeds up action, but I can't recall what it was.

Sorry for the somewhat long-winded post, and thanks very much in advance for any answers, advice or help.

 

[DexterMeth]

*Take the whole thing. Even 10mg for someone with no tolerance won't FLOOR them, but it's a decent dose.
*The high itself is maybe a good 10hrs, but will keep you from getting sick for easily 24, with no tolerance.
*It will certainly keep you awake if you take it later like that, but then again everyone is different. It definitely does for me though. You might be off balance, but if you're used to going through that much oxy-m in one go, you'll be fine. Methadone is not as crazy as you're building it up to be. It's just that, it physically supresses the CNS and breathing, etc, A LOT, so be very careful, especially when it comes to drug combos (i.e. do not combine it with other drugs, including alcohol, which is even worse).
*Everyone is going to say do not combine it with xanax, but as you already stated, you have plenty of experience (enough imo) with oxymoprhone and heroin, and you already take 1.5mg of clonazepam a day, so you should be completely fine. I doubt you'll even be that high at all, but you'll feel decent comfortable.
*Just pop it. Methadone has an extremely good oral bioavailabilty.

-Enjoy, and remember, the real danger with methadone is that you'll want to take more to achieve the nod like with other opiods, but it supresses breathing and the like a lot more than others, before the nod. Don't let this freak you out though (not that you shouldn't keep this in mind). Just be reasonable, and keep yourself in check.

 

[andghosts]

1) 24 h is hoped for, 18-20 h is more so the reality (I find, at least). Take the whole 10mg (at any dose, the sedation is more noticeable than the euphoria (if you experience any at all - methadone (from 40ml to about 90ml) just made me less sick, mid-way through the evening I would start with the shakes again and end up with a pocket full of smack, it wasn't till about 120ml to my highest at 140ml that I began to feel something - tired, I literally just slept the days away, whatever high potentially exists with methadone, I missed - slept right through it)
2) Xanax will potentiate it, Klonopin will too. Any Benzodiazapene is fine, for your level of tolerance, you should find the dosage you mentioned satisfactory.
3) Well, don't shoot it (it's no fun and the cough-syrup like consistency is a pain in the arse to load up).

 

[DexterMeth]

He only has half a 10mg pill. Just thought I'd point that out.

-I'd fall asleep pretty much right when I came home from the clinic when I was on the stuff too.

 

[marienbad]

Sorry for such a late bump but thanks guys for the tips. I took the 5mg and it was, for me, very pleasant but not quite enough. I took it around 8PM and the effects didn't totally kick in for at least 3, 3 and a half hours (!) but eventually I got a genial, vicodin-like buzz (not much euphoria, more of a body high than anything else) for the rest of the night, and a very slight but still perceptible high for several hours after I woke up the next day. If/when I do this stuff again I'd definitely go with 10mg.

 

[helium-4]

if you can rail 10-15mg of oxymorphone, you should be able to take 15mg of methadone no problem, and probably be a lot closer to where you want to be, if not 20mg. Thats a decent amount of oxymorphone, so 5mg really shouldn't do much for you at all.

 

[thelung]

Brother, don't worry about taking 5mg of methadone. It can pre an un-predictable medication when used in high amounts and combined with other CNS depressants. But 5mg is a very low dose. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that someboy with zero tolerance could take 5mg of methadone and they'd probably get high, but that's it. Please do not, however, combine methadone with your Alprazolam (Xanax) Benzos and Methadone have been the cause of many deaths in my area. Be careul plz~!

 

[helium-4]

If one is taking a benzo, especially at therapeutic doses, for a while, 5, even 10mg should not be a problem even for a completely opioid naive individual. It is a potent, weird cross tolerant, opioid, but fuck, they start individuals out who already take benzos daily on 5-10mgs of methadone for therapeutic reasons. I take 2mgs of clonazepam and 15mgs of methadone, and my doctor, had no issue starting me out on 10mgs a day. I really don't think a problem would be had with a tolerant benzo user to take recreational doses of methadone.

 

[Fire&Water]

I can see this surge of methadone going full circle...Pain Dr's are prescribing it because insurance plans no longer wanna' pay fer' e.r. formulations & patients cant afford them. Most Dr's are precautious about prescribing them, but do anyway at a common dose of 3x a day, but the patient doesnt get it, taking more each day because they dont feel the pain relief. A ton of emergancy room visits is going to put alot of Dr's on the Feds' "red-flag" list, Which will ultimately turn out to be a positive thing making way for more affordable & "instant release" type chronic pain meds' It's gone full circle once w/ the E.R. & Dr's having to ask you to rate your pain on a scale of 1 - 10 - It will start happening again in a similar fashion.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Eat the whole thing, and you'll be fine. Someone having a bad reaction off of 1mg is the exception not the rule

 

[Fire&Water]

I can see this surge of methadone going full circle...Pain Dr's are prescribing it because insurance plans no longer wamma' pay fer' e.r. formulations & patients cant afford them. Most Dr's are precautious about prescribing them, but do anyway at a common dose of 3x a day, but the patient doesnt get it, taking more each day because they dont feel the pain relief. A ton of emergancy room visits is going to put alot of Dr's on the Feds' "red-flag" list, Which will ultimately turn out to be a positive thing making way for more affordable & "instant release" type chronic pain meds' It's gone full circle once w/ the E.R. & Dr's having to ask you to rate your pain on a scale of 1 - 10 - It will start happening again in a similar fashion.

 

[helium-4]

Methadone is actually the best opioid for my condition. I need the 24 hour/steady state opioid presence, as well as the nmda antagonism, and light snri effect. I don't have a lot of pain, just discomfort, and methadone is studied as the best drug for my problem. No increase in dosage over an extended period of time like whats seen with chronic pain patients. (I have moderate to severe RLS). I'm probably gonna ask for a holiday with either oxycodone or oxymorphone if possible every so often though. Holidays are always good, and why not enjoy some oxy for a break.

Oh yeah, the price of methadone is also super legit. Paying less than ten usd for a script with insurance and under 20 usd with out insurance.