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Methadone and ghetto shake and bake dope

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Hi, Im new and i guess i am in the right Forum..hoping for some helpful feedback.
So here is my situation.. I am 28 -29 in a month and have been on 95 to 85 milligrams of liquid methadone hydrochloride from the clinic a day, for the past coming up on 2 years now. I have been at the leveled out point for damn near a year now, where as the first 6 months to a year, I was feeling great after dosing for most of the day. I came from doing H and all other opiates fairly heavily when entering the clinic. Now I am fully informed that I am a slave to that building and all the roads leading there. I hate it, and am now really, really ready to make that leap. I decided against cold turkey since I have someone else buying my doses. I haven't had a real job lasting more than a week since i started, and the other day I got the call I was waiting for. It is a landscaping job in SC, so its hot as hellfire..and if anyone knows about Methadone and sun..its not fun! So i was suppossed to start yesterday but called and made an excuse, boss said fine he was having troubles with his vehicles anyway..come in tommorrow..It's now 2morrow and i just sent him a message explaining how messed up i got this weekend on meth and was not gonna make it 2day, pittying myself as i apologized 3 times in one message...sorry so long but if your'e still reading...awesome..thanx. K,The mental, physical, and all around effects after the methadone hAS run its 2 hour limit i feel helpless and force myself to do pretty much anything..leading me into using meth,finding out its cut with H, to keep going and get shit done. No Meth 2day was my deciding factor not to go to work. I know how pathetic I am, but also know that I'm an addict and this shits happened all my life. So i could write a lot more, but I guess my big question is SHOULD I WEEN OFF THE METHADONE THE GO TO REHAB? ALL ADVICE WILL BE READ AND APPRECIATED. THANX:(
 
I guess no one wants to comment yet. I'm still new..so I'll be patient like a good boy.
 
You are doing methamphetamine now,and still taking methadone? Is that correct or have I misread/misintepreted your post? Are you now in SC? And if so you are on methadone there then I take it,but sell it ,and are using methamphetamine!? Well it must be powdered methamphetamine ,which I had some from colorado a truck driver brought back about 10+ years ago and gave to his son and me to do,because it was cut/mixed with heroin.I do not see a way for heroin and crystal meth to be mixed without it being noticeable.I suppose I would advise rehab or sticking to the Methadone program.Using crystal meth or powdered meth will become another addiction if you keep using it with methadone,so you can stick to one habit or get another bad habit,and lose your teeth after a time and end up in the closet with a shotgun or something crazy as meth can and has made some people do after a heavy binge..
 
I think the OP means methadone not methamphetamine.

No idea why "shake and bake" is in the title. Refering to WD's maybe?

Life will certainly be simpler without a methadone dependence, but whether it's worth the pain you'll have to decide for yourself.

Not an ADD topic.
 
^push/pull maybe but not shake and bake.

He talks about something leading him to use meth. He's already on methadone so that's why i assume it's methamphetamine he means. And he also mentions the meth(amphetamine) is cut with H(eroin).
 
LivingOnValium said:
^push/pull maybe but not shake and bake.

He talks about something leading him to use meth. He's already on methadone so that's why i assume it's methamphetamine he means. And he also mentions the meth(amphetamine) is cut with H(eroin).
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Shake and bake is a name which is used for a new and quite explosive (in more than one way) method of making methamphetamine.

OP please clarify.
 
Also a term for a quickie ghetto method of demethylating codeine using pyridine, or sometimes, boron tribromide (or is it the trifluoride/THF complex...can't remember)
 
OP is talking about doing methamph because his done tolerance WD is sapping his energy. He has been up all weekend, so he is maybe deluded himself into thinking the meth is cut with H, so the dealer will have him 'hooked' on it. That or there is a new drug cut with a more expensive drug out now.
 
I'm thoroughly confused by your post. IMO, you're obviously not ready to detox off of methadone. Do you have a week or more of take home doses? If you do, then simply detox yourself by taking small amounts out of your bottles every day. If you don't trust yourself, have someone you trust do it for you and store the extra in a place where you cannot get to it. If you do not have take home doses, then you should wait until you've been giving enough clean urines to get take home doses before you even consider detoxing. You're involvement with meth doesn't make me too hopeful about your prospects of detoxing at this stage in your life.

I assume you mean by the effects of methadone when working in the heat is that working in the heat tends to make the methadone wear off quicker and you wake up sick the next morning? First off, there's lots of people who are on methadone and work strenuous jobs in the heat, and I think you're just making excuses for being out of shape and afraid of doing hard work. In case I'm wrong if you have been giving clean urines you should have take home doses, you should simply divide your daily dose up into two to three smaller doses and this will help you stay well until the next morning.
 
Hes going through something....not making sense. Good Luck OP. You need inpatient. Min 60 days.

fryingsquirrel said:
I think the OP means methadone not methamphetamine.

No idea why "shake and bake" is in the title. Refering to WD's maybe?

Life will certainly be simpler without a methadone dependence, but whether it's worth the pain you'll have to decide for yourself.

Not an ADD topic.
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I have no idea what you're talking about, OP, but you are obviously abusing something rather heftily (whether it be Methadone, Methamphetamine, Heroin, all three, or something completely different) and need to seek treatment before you even think about trying to start a new job.

MMT, when done correctly (which is very rare these days, as most clinics and their counselors alike are just institutionalized drug pushers) is quite effective in very many people. If the clinic you are going to knew what they were doing (maybe they are, and you are not being cooperative), they would have gotten you at your 'holding' dose (which you say was achieved a year ago) and kept you there for 3-6 months, then they would have initiated a taper program for you at 1-3mg per week/2 weeks/month.

However, in my past experience with MMT-- from Los Angeles, to San Diego, to Las Vegas, and a few places in between-- they just want your money. I have only had *one* counselor, out of dozens, who showed any actual *genuine* concern for my well-being, and denounced the very institution he worked for during every session we had. Needless to say, he got fired and I received one of the liquid handcuffs pushing personalities that I had encountered so many times before.

Enough about me (I tend to do that alot).

What you need to do is either:
A) Talk to your counselor at the MMT Clinic about a serious taper, with counseling sessions 1-3 times or more per week, and possible meetings as well.
B) If you have health insurance, and a PCP that offers it, consider switching to Suboxone. Don't be afraid to tell him/her EVERYTHING that you are currently doing, and the exact reasons why you are doing it (MMT for Opiate/oid addiction, Meth/Speed/Whatever to counteract the lethargy from the Methadone, Heroin because you're fed up with the Methadone, EVERYTHING), and if they are a good doctor you will be set-up with proper Suboxone maintenance, and possibly Provigil or even Ritalin/Adderall/Dexedrine for the lethargy; all with a prescription in your name that you can pick up at the pharmacy and carry around with you without being paranoid if a cop messes with you.
C) In-patient detox. Which, judging by the coherency of your post (honestly, no offense), may be your best bet.

I wish you the best.
 
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