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Methadone after sub taper?

firahs75

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Howdy,

I've currently been on subutex for about a year after a nasty oxy and dillie habit that resulted from having cancer in '07 (thank God I'm good now, although still have pain issues). I am down to 2mg's of subutex a day and sometimes like to take oxy vacations on the weekends (however, no matter how much oxy or hydro I take, I can't get any euphoria unless I combine with ETOH. Man, I miss the good old days when 2 percs put me on cloud nine :()

At any rate, my plan is to get down to 0.5 mg's of subutex a day and once I am stable there, start skipping days, before finally stepping off once I get to five days between doses. I was able to get 100 mg's of liquid methadone from a buddy of mine and the plan was to take some as needed in order to take the edge off the sub withdrawals. I read somewhere that if you taper down to a really low dose of sub, stop sub, and then take ~20 mg methadone a day for no more than 5 days, you will be over the worst of any sub withdrawals and be good to go.

My questions are:

1. Will this strategy work or is a prolonging/worsening of the sub withdrawal a possibility?

2. What dose of methadone should I start with (and hopefully catch some kind of buzz)?

3. Will I ever be able to feel euphoria from just oxy or hydro again?
 
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1. Will this strategy work or is a prolonging/worsening of the sub withdrawal a possibility?

2. What dose of methadone should I start with (and hopefully catch some kind of buzz)?

3. Will I ever be able to feel euphoria from just oxy or hydro again?


1. You may prolong the withdrawal a little bit, but you wont worsen the symptoms. I would not worry about it, just taper and skip a few days here and there like you said.

2. When you're down to half a mg a day, skip a day and on that day take 50mg of Methadone. I guarantee you'll catch a buzz.

3. Yes, after a month of complete abstinence from any & all opioids you will be able to feel oxy and hydro wonderfully. You will probably require about 30-40mg of either though because of your previous experience, and your tolerance will build up extremely fast (within 3 or 4 days of daily use you could be having to use 80mg at a time to get high).
 
I really need to get high now!!!! How much methadone will get me off if I've been on 2mg subutex for the past year (I have 100 mg methadone)?
 
So, if I take ~50mg of methadone 48 hrs after my sub dose, do you think I will actually catch a buzz?
 
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