All meth is P2P and nothing makes it safer. The new formulation will rot your teeth faster, lead to psychosis and can cause liver failure after short term use. It's a leading cause of homelessness too as the effects are completely the opposite of old-school meth. P2P makes you tired and sick and less likely to hold down a job. The meth the everyone remembers doesn't exist anymore. The new stuff is exponentially worse for your body and mind and more than 96% of national supply in America is P2P. Go to the doctors or get some help before it's too late.
TL;DR ☞ while the majority of meth in the U.S. is made from phenyl-2-propanone in Mexico, with sufficient post-reaction clean-up, any differences between P2P meth and ephedrine meth is negligible to nonexistent. These are myths and superstitions not based in science, logic, or reason, and they tend to come with personal bias and subjective anecdotes as the sole evidence of their existence.
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Hey, thanks for the concern and advice. I know you mean well, and I appreciate your attempt to share safety info. Certainly reckless meth abuse can contribute to one's demise when they're on that path; however, there is
nothing inherent to any drug that causes homelessness. Homelessness can occur as an indirect effect of drug-abuse disorder, but that goes for any drug including ethyl alcohol. It's the behaviors of the individual prior to the abuse of their DoC that is responsible for the results that follow.
People are responsible for their actions. Inanimate objects like white powders and crystals have no will or agenda and they cannot
do anything and certainly are not to blame for a person's actions. Don't abuse drugs. Either use them responsibly or not at all is the best policy. Take responsibility for yourself.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info from, but you should check your sources. Not that it matters but there is meth out there still made from ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. Any Shake & Bake method is this. The Nagai route and the Birch reduction are still viable methods. And in Asia where the ephedra plant,
Mu Huang, is available, this is what you will find. Ephedrine reduction produces solely the d-isomer of methamphetamine, which is the preferred isomer with fewer peripheral side effects. But l-isomer methamphetamine is not some heinous poison, either. In fact, it's sold OTC in inhalers as a bronchial dilator.
For that matter, when you take MDMA, or 3,4-methylenedioxy
methamphetamine, it is almost always made from MD
P2P which produces a 50/50 racemic blend of d- and l-isomer MDMA (aka: dl-MDMA). With MDMA, the two isomers actually potentiate each other and a very rarely separated as this will add no value to the product nor give it competitive advantage as it will with methamphetamine.
Also, this "new school" / "old school" talk… are you aware that in the 60s and 70s, biker gangs like the
Hell's Angels would manufacture P2P meth in 55 gallon steel drums? They'd tie a rope around the drum, mix in the reagents and P2P for reductive amination, then quickly seal it and weld it shut. Because it's an exothermic reaction they would drop the barrel into a nearby river to cool it off and tie the other end of the rope to a tree so they could retrieve it easily later. The picture of a pressurized steel drum sizzling in a river somewhere in San Francisco as it converts p2p to meth makes me smile. But
P2P was the old school method during the 90s and early 2000s.
Sometime during the 90s, this rather brilliant hillbilly meth chemist/cook in the U.S. was seeking a novel route to make his favorite drug, crystal meth. He was pouring through microfilm at his local library and came across an old German paper talking about alternative applications of the Birch reduction using ammonia and an alkali metal. Inspired, he came up with a ridiculously easy method of producing solely d-isomer meth from ephedrine using a Birch reduction in shockingly high yield and purity. He showed some friends and word quickly spread aided by the newly proliferated internet and usenet newsgroups. This set off a wave of home production and an epidemic of widespread meth abuse in the rural parts of the U.S. This was
the new school method.
The reductive amination of P2P to methamphetamine produces racemic methamphetamine, that is 50% l-isomer and 50% d-isomer.
The l-isomer can be resolved to a fresh racemic blend, rendering a 75%/25% mix and the process can be repeated,
ad infinitum, and the l-isomer percent will decrease by half with each iteration (e.g.:
87.5%/12.5%, then 93.75%/6.25%, and so on). This is the common method with the Mexican Cartels, and only because the U.S. started intercepting
Ma Huang shipments from China to Mexico. So it's a comparison of meth "cut" with ~10% unconverted ephedrine or meth "cut" with ~10% l-meth, all other things being equal (meaning: assuming the lab in Mexico performed a few isomer resolutions). Regardless nothing about either "formulation", to borrow a term, would render meth with the ability to get you fired from your job, cause you to be homeless, or have the "exact opposite effects" that are expected. Neither is any better or worse for your body, and unless you have literature from science journals to back up your claims that somehow meth made from P2P is "exponentially worse" for your health than meth made from ephedrine, you're just (unknowingly) spreading bad intel, superstition, myths, fear, uncertainty, and doubt. Just because you had a bad time with meth doesn't make the experience universal.
Btw, I'm not saying you didn't experience these things. All I'm saying is that the reason for it has fuck all to do with any gear being produced from P2P. These effects you've described indicate your source is probably getting poor quality meth either cut with something or filled with impurities the chemist did not remove. What's more, this is not the only source of gear in today's market. Also, all stimulant drugs can lead to psychosis and other health issues when abused. Vaporizing any drug can be bad for your mouth and teeth when done excessively and coupled with poor hygiene habits. Responsible drug use involves self-discipline, knowing your limits, and not shirking your responsibilities. Granted, this is easier for some than for others, and every drug is not meant for everybody, but this is the idea anyway.
EDIT: sorry if I seem like I'm being harsh and for the long reply. I want to be sure you know I know what I'm talking about, and I want to stop the spread of misinformation if, when & where I can. It's absolutely nothing personal, but on a personal note I did want to tell you ☞ Welcome to Bluelight!
cook13 is a sketchy af . I think he is a scammer , thought atleast he knew what he was talking about on certain topics. There’s fellow on here that wrote an interesting piece recently and touched on that guy . 
