Meth Dosage- Oral and Snorted

[abUSER]

Yes, here comes another meth question. I have been smoking meth for a little while now. At first it was intense and euphoric for quite a while, followed by many hours of pleasant increased energy. Gradually I have seen my tolerance increase, finally to the point where I will smoke 3 bowls quickly and not feel much besides a heightened alertness and a few tingly body rushes. Every now and then I'll take a small line or two and notice a considerably stronger effect. I have been reluctant to stop smoking it, as it is a lot of fun, especially with friends, but it seems that smoking it has somehow lost its effectiveness on me. Possibly the process is simply too slow and I absorb too little at a time? I have several scattered questions rooting from this basic info:
- My meth is a glassy white and allegedly very high quality. When I smoke it, I try to be careful with the heat and it melts to a nice clear liquid. Usually by the second half of the bowl, the liquid has darkened to a brown. I assume this is from it getting burnt. The smoke seems about the same, but I have heard some say that the desired meth hit comes from unburnt liquid. It continues to melt and crystalize as normal. My question is: Is it OK that it does this or do I need to be applying less heat? Does anyone have knowledge of the color change I speak of and if it signifies anything?
- I mentioned the decreasing way in which the smoking of meth has affected me. Snorting, however, seems to still work pretty well. Can a person build a tolerance to a certain way of doing meth and not another?
- This question is about oral dosage. Many on here seem to argue that ingestion provides the greatest body high besides IV and is the healthiest. Don't worry, I read everything in the archives pertaining to oral meth ingestion. I am very interested in getting more experienced with taking it this way. I have done it twice with opposing results. I took half of a gel capsule full after having smoked 2 or 3 bowls already. The body high was incredible, very similar to E, and it was a perfect amount. I took a similar capsule another time as I smoked a bit, but this time not much happened. I know we've beaten to death the issue of the proper dosage, but I have no scale and no visual reference. I put the drug into a normal sized capsule from an emptied out vitamin pill and swallow it with water. If I wanted to ingest the amount that everyone is recommending (50-100 mg), how much of a capule should I expect that to fill? Are we talking half a capsule, a full one, 2 full ones? I really just need some kind of benchmark. I want to maximize the oral meth experience but I don't want to accidentally take too much as it is much easier to swallow capsules than to snort or smoke. So just an approximation of how full a capsule should be would help me an probably a few others. Any other tips for enhancing the oral ingestion trip would be great too.
- Quick snorting question. How big is an adequate line? I've never been able to get a straight answer on this and have gotten varying answers for different drugs. If I were only to snort meth on a given trip, about how long (in inches) should it be?
- To frequent meth users, particularly fairnymph: how has your experience with tolerance been? I have noticed an amazingly rapid increase in tolerance, especially following 2 or more consecutive days of use. Is there a standard amount of downtime needed to restore the potency of the effect?
I apologize for the lengthy post, but I've had quite a few questions throughout my meth use, and have wanted to wait until I'd checked all of the archives before asking them. I believe this is everything I wasn't able to find or understand. I know someone will find some reason to flame me for being a newbie, but I ask you to please post whatever info you have on these subjects because I know I'm not the only one wondering.

 

[Beeebs]

I got the same thing when I was fairly big into smoking meth. I think some of it is that the whole "routine" of smoking it gets boring. Personally I would sit in the same chair by the computer and listen to the same songs while smoking. It just got to be so routine that I wouldn't get much out of it.

 

[negrogesic]

Capsules come in sizes 0,00,000 etc.. For a 0 sized capsule, 50mg would be noticably less than half-full (when powdered) and uncompressed..

 

[fairnymph]

There are two possible explanations for the 'brown liquid'. The first and more likely explanation is that you aren't heating the meth gently enough (flame is too close to the glass, not rotating the pipe enough, heating it too quickly) thus you burn some of the meth. The second explanation is that a cut in your meth is burning, in which case carrying on smoking as you have been.
You might not be getting as high as you could be because you don't hold in the meth smoke long enough. I try and hold it in for as long as I can so more of it can be absorbed. And my bf and I always shotgun each other so that ALL the meth gets used.
It's not possible to build a (physical) tolerance to one kind of route of administration and not the other. You can only build tolerance to an actual SUBSTANCE. But, you can develop a PSYCHOLOGICAL tolerance to ANYTHING...and I would say that this is probably the case with you.
You need to tell us what size capsules you have, or at very least, if you emptied out some vitamin or something, what the dosage of that vitamin was.
It is not possible for us to tell you 'how big of a line' to snort. Just start out with a small line and do more as necessary. Make sure to wait 15 min before deciding if more is necessary.
Re: tolerance. Yes, long term users most certainly develop tolerance -- and what sucks is that it is permanent. Eventually even large amounts of meth will do very little to you, if you keep doing it enough. Consecutive days of use, as with any drug, massively increase tolerance. In order to keep your tolerance 'manageable', I suggest leaving a week in between meth uses. You will still develop/have a tolerance and meth will progressively have less and less effect on you, but it won't happen all that quickly. If you want to REALLY limit your tolerance as much as possible, leave 2-3 weeks in between meth uses.

 

[abUSER]

The capsule is about 3/4 inch in length and is meant to house 500 mg of some herbal supplement called black cohosh (I found it in the kitchen). Any help?

 

[adw23]

Smoking seems loose its gusto very quickly. Have you tried a bong yet? It will revive your smoking pleasure if you havent tried it yet. If you are concerned about potency loss to the water and can't convice yourself to drink it (ehhck) it's just as effective without liquid. I never thought meth could make you cough till I tried the bong! As for it getting brown, here is a fantastic trick. Purchase a heat gun or a propane heater (used to strip paint and heat shrink rap tubing) these things give off heat at about 500 degrees F which is slightly higher than the melting point of crystal. What you get is pure meth vapor, and a headrush that can't be beat, and no brown gack either. Also try changing your routine (yeah right) go smoke over at a friends, have a change of scenery. I also go to the head shop weekly (damn glass elbows....break 3 a week) and try new pipes etc. seems to keep things new and exciting on the quest for the ultimate smoking apparatus......
cheers,
adw23

 

[dpuerto]

doesnt meth recrystalize QUICKLY in your lungs? think about the milky white residue that hardens on the stem of the shilay.
i mean correct me if i am wrong with medical documentation, cuz the idea of holding in meth wiggs me the fugg out. in fact we always teach people NOT to hold it in.
oh well.
on a side note: i started smoking meth a LONG time after i snorted it. smoking is the most addictive method. i like to snort and smoke and snort and smoke. woops did i say that? i meant my lab rat prefers this method. another technique that is favorable to it, is the famed HOTRAIL. get the glass tube from the damn rose merchant, and heat one end for about 20-30 seconds and quickly get over that line. DONT TOUCH IT! and snort it up at a moderate pace. NOW BLOW OUT THAT SMOKE SLOWLY!! watch as the delicate smoke weaves and tangles it's way away from you... yes... both the effects of snorting and smoking. practice more and more, and dont get frustrated when you accidentally collect some geek on the tube.. you can always smoke that up.
lemme know about the lung shit though. my rat is getting scurrrred

 

[fairnymph]

Meth does NOT recrystallize in your lungs! It is a total urban legend. Meth is a hydrocholoride salt and so just as it is readily soluble (dissolves easily) in a glass of water, it dissolves in the very wet tissue in your lungs, and is absorbed quickly.

 

[dpuerto]

whooo, damn.. now i can take that breath of fresh air and wipe the sweat from my brow. it seems so fuckin self-explanitory, it makes me wanna slap myself. interesting.
thank you so much.

 

[Drayen]

pah-raise the lord.....
finally, another has been turned away from the insidious path of believing urban legends

 

[fairnymph]

Regarding oral dosage...if you have one of those black cohosh 500 mg capsules, I would suggest filling it up a GOOD BIT LESS than a 1/4 of the way...presuming you have good meth, and a decent tolerance, you are aiming for around 75 mg. So, that is going to be between 1/10 and 2/10's of a capsule.
If you don't feel pretty good within an hour, take a supplement of maybe half as much as you took the first time. That should do you alright...
Remember, however, that METH HAS A COMEUP so you won't feel that high until 20-40 minutes after you first begin feeling the effects. So wait before taking more or you might take too much and have a less than ideal experience.
Hope this helps.