Meth Meth difference in meth these days

[3CrystalVision69]

I noticed over the last 6 months or so thst ive noticed that there's a difference in the meth. As in one thing I used to do a line or a shot about a half point /20th of a gram to a point/ tenth of a gram and get high for right at a 24 hour span but now when I do a "dose" of meth it l3ast about 2 hours and it's over with. Used too I would go PSYCHOTIC off meth if I did just a bit too much but now its like I can shoot a quarter gram and gst a mild rush from it and be sober as I said in a couple hours the buzz is different now and mainly as i said doesent last as long. OK so I read and have been told that the meth now is p2p based not psedo based. So I do believe that must make a difference in the ratio of racemic Levo and dextro in the meth that were getting causing a difference. Am I right? Wrong? Can someone explain more either way? I'd really like to know. Thank you for reading and for any responses. I even wonder if we're just getting "amphetamine" now and not *meth*amphetamine.

 

[Docta]

As in one thing I used to do a line or a shot about a half point /20th of a gram to a point/ tenth of a gram and get high for right at a 24 hour span but now when I do a "dose" of meth it l3ast about 2 hours and it's over with.

Yep, drug tolerance is a bitch. Take a brake for a year or so and you'll be good as new.

OK so I read and have been told that the meth now is p2p based not psedo based.

The majority of meth in the world is derived via dextro (+)- enantioselective synthesis of precursory compounds, that's big technical jargon meaning a pharmaceutical company in Asia does all the hard work churning out ephedrine or pseudoephedrine and sells it direct to clandestine drug labs, who cook it up usually with an alkaline metal to get d-meth.

So I do believe that must make a difference in the ratio of racemic Levo and dextro in the meth that were getting causing a difference. Am I right? Wrong? Can someone explain more either way?

In places where they've clamped down on the importation and sales of ephedrine labs have gone back to using methyl ketones as the primary precursor compound.

These P2P methods do produce a racemic mixture that's true, but you need to factor in two things: the logistics of transport and the chemical properties of racemic mixtures.

While it is possible to recrystallize d/l- methamphetamine, making it into a crystal bigger than a grain of sand is so hard it borders on impossible due to a thing called Rotamer.

Think of it like having a bag or OG LEGO® and a bag of Chinese knockoff plastic bricks mixed together, they may look the same, but they won't stack.

To get around this a prosses know as racemic resolution is used to separate out the d-meth, once resolved the meth can be recrystallized into the big ass shards that we know and love.

In some cases, the leftover l-meth is then possessed into d-meth via the new "RRR" technique increasing yields.

Then there's the logistics of scale, do you want to smuggle 500 keys of d/l-meth or 250 keys of d-meth?

I find it hard to believe anyone would intentionally smuggle unresolved d/l-meth, it would make more sense to send d-meth and makeup the weight at the other end.

 

[stimveteran]

Best available uk to uk is Hong Kong i wont name supplier

BBMC off Whitehouse market was the man tho! Made his own D-iso in uk (he went mad pdychosis i think or got put inside)

 

[TheGyattDamnRizzler]

I noticed over the last 6 months or so thst ive noticed that there's a difference in the meth. As in one thing I used to do a line or a shot about a half point /20th of a gram to a point/ tenth of a gram and get high for right at a 24 hour span but now when I do a "dose" of meth it l3ast about 2 hours and it's over with. Used too I would go PSYCHOTIC off meth if I did just a bit too much but now its like I can shoot a quarter gram and gst a mild rush from it and be sober as I said in a couple hours the buzz is different now and mainly as i said doesent last as long. OK so I read and have been told that the meth now is p2p based not psedo based. So I do believe that must make a difference in the ratio of racemic Levo and dextro in the meth that were getting causing a difference. Am I right? Wrong? Can someone explain more either way? I'd really like to know. Thank you for reading and for any responses. I even wonder if we're just getting "amphetamine" now and not *meth*amphetamine.

Yes i experienced the super meth and the early 2010s stuff that was very strong and like you could die or go crazy if you didnt properly dose. Its still out there I got some recently.

The stuff from Mexico is fine but i notice it is less pure. P2p actually makes a powerful product if done right but I doubt the Mexicans batch cooking it on the side of hill somewhere are really anal about everything going correctly.

Alot of the west coast cartel crank will keep me like high for two hours and then i have to redose and its ultra acetoney and gross.
I've heard you can get good in Mexico though if you know the right people.

I don't think its about the synthesis though more the hands that move it.

 

[3CrystalVision69]

Ok well

Yes i experienced the super meth and the early 2010s stuff that was very strong and like you could die or go crazy if you didnt properly dose. Its still out there I got some recently.

The stuff from Mexico is fine but i notice it is less pure. P2p actually makes a powerful product if done right but I doubt the Mexicans batch cooking it on the side of hill somewhere are really anal about everything going correctly.

Alot of the west coast cartel crank will keep me like high for two hours and then i have to redose and its ultra acetoney and gross.
I've heard you can get good in Mexico though if you know the right people.

I don't think its about the synthesis though more the hands that move it.

Appreciate the reply. Yeah I notice a difference too. I started meth in 2014 and alot of that shit would make me have psychosis actually a majority of the times.

 

[3CrystalVision69]

Yep, drug tolerance is a bitch. Take a brake for a year or so and you'll be good as new.




The majority of meth in the word is derived via dextro (+)- enantioselective synthesis of precursory compounds, that's big technical jargon meaning a pharmaceutical company in Asia does all the hard work churning out ephedrine or pseudoephedrine and sells it direct to clandestine drug labs, who cook it up usually with an alkaline metal to get d-meth.



In places where they've clamped down on the importation and sales of ephedrine labs have gone back to using methyl ketones as the primary precursor compound.

These P2P methods do produce a racemic mixture that's true, but you need to factor in two things: the logistics of transport and the chemical properties of racemic mixtures.

While it is possible to recrystallize d/l- methamphetamine, making it into a crystal bigger than a grain of sand is so hard it borders on impossible due to a thing called Rotamer.

Think of it like having a bag or OG LEGO® and a bag of Chinese knockoff plastic bricks mixed together, they may look the same, but they won't stack.

To get around this a prosses know as racemic resolution is used to separate out the d-meth, once resolved the meth can be recrystallized into the big ass shards that we know and love.

In some cases, the leftover l-meth is then possessed into d-meth via the new "RRR" technique increasing yields.

Then there's the logistics of scale, do you want to smuggle 500 keys of d/l-meth or 250 keys of d-meth?

I find it hard to believe anyone would intentionally smuggle unresolved d/l-meth, it would make more sense to send d-meth and makeup the weight at the other end.

I dont know what some of those words mean but I can research the words you've given me and try to come to a complete underderstanding of what yoire saying. Thanks.

 

[YusufIslam]

I noticed over the last 6 months or so thst ive noticed that there's a difference in the meth. As in one thing I used to do a line or a shot about a half point /20th of a gram to a point/ tenth of a gram and get high for right at a 24 hour span but now when I do a "dose" of meth it l3ast about 2 hours and it's over with. Used too I would go PSYCHOTIC off meth if I did just a bit too much but now its like I can shoot a quarter gram and gst a mild rush from it and be sober as I said in a couple hours the buzz is different now and mainly as i said doesent last as long. OK so I read and have been told that the meth now is p2p based not psedo based. So I do believe that must make a difference in the ratio of racemic Levo and dextro in the meth that were getting causing a difference. Am I right? Wrong? Can someone explain more either way? I'd really like to know. Thank you for reading and for any responses. I even wonder if we're just getting "amphetamine" now and not *meth*amphetamine.

That all depends on where you are from as if you are in Australia then the majority of crystal meth people sell in Australia from 2024 to currently is a lot different from different from the meth sold between 2020-2023 (which was racemic) and the meth sold before 2019 (which was d-meth).

The majority of what is sold as Crystal Meth in Australia today is is majority l-meth/completely l-meth heavily cut with n-iso (to a lesser extent msm) with there being no d-meth in it the majority of time. So it won't get you high like d-meth or racemic meth and will only cause the peripheral effects of l-meth and the negative effects of n-iso

 

[BorbOrB]

It works basically rhe same as it used to over 10 years ago but it doesn't melt in my hand anymore and has a different smell, cartel meth is cut with something strange and I used to only do 1-2 points when I would rarely do it amd be high as fuck for a day but now I'd do half a gram or more when I rarely run into it. If your high only lasts a couple hours and makes you psychotic, it could be a-pvp or mdpihp, some kind of pyrovalerone like mdpv, which are super dopaminergic but also anticholinergic. I did 1, 50mgs shot of MDPV and instantly started having audio hallucinations of someone screaming upstairs and was convinced someone was being murdered, I distracted myself by stim fapping, haha. I'm generally pretty good with hallucinations and don't let them get to me but I rarely do stims anymore and never more than 1 night at a time. You sir, likely don't have meth.

 

[hphsr]

We just had some stuff hit our city that reminds me of 2012 when I first started. Smoke one blows and be cruising for 3-4 days.

I’m currently running on 10-12 hours of sleep for the last 5 days. On my 3rd night of no sleep (11:20pm now) and still holding strong. Tool about 10 hits at 7 am to see if I could be straight enough for work, but was just becoming more retarded. Have been waiting f on the crash for almost 16 hours now..,

Obviously not proud I’m a meth addict, but I will say, it sure is nice to have something reminiscent of what got us hooked in the first place….

 

[krickett]

Haiiii, ok so I have a question??
I got this decent sized shard right?
I put it in a bag, broke it up & put it in my lil bong & immediately it turns brown.
I have a whole system when I clean my bowls & I'm very careful...
It's strange cuz it doesn't taste burnt & I'm pretty careful about not burning it..
My husband says it looks kinda thick when it's all melted??
Any theories to why this is happened?
I mean I was tryna be quick about cleaning it so maybe I fucked up somewhere but it turned brown like fast.

 

[drewbocop]

Yes i experienced the super meth and the early 2010s stuff that was very strong and like you could die or go crazy if you didnt properly dose. Its still out there I got some recently.

The only times I've done meth were in 2011 in Arkansas. Met a biker across from me when I moved into my park who gave me some straight up crystal-clear glass. Smoked that shit and it was like being shot out of a cannon. I could practically hear my pupils dilate. It lasted for-fucking-ever, too. Quite frankly, it was too much for little ol' me. I can't imagine doing that every day lol.

 

[krickett]

The only times I've done meth were in 2011 in Arkansas. Met a biker across from me when I moved into my park who gave me some straight up crystal-clear glass. Smoked that shit and it was like being shot out of a cannon. I could practically hear my pupils dilate. It lasted for-fucking-ever, too. Quite frankly, it was too much for little ol' me. I can't imagine doing that every day lol.

Biker Mef is da best. I smoked ice from age 20-27 but I was on heroin too so I felt like it balanced me out..The first time I tried it was in rehab in California. I snorted a fat line with my roommate & left rehab to go shoot it up for 5 days.
I lost my mind & told myself never again. My 2 roommates that left rehab with me, we all marched our skitzin asses back to the rehab & begged them to take us back. So much weird shit happened to me in those 5 days...Veryy weird things..
After that I didn't try it again for a few years & I told myself I was allergic to IV'ing that shit...
but after getting clean off everything for a lil over 2 years, I've really grown to hate it.
I relapsed on coke & honestly I like coke a lot better.. it gets you up without all the weird side effects that Ice gives me..
Ice is WAYYY too much for me now by itself. The smell makes me gag most of the time so does the taste..but I wanna be awake so I deal with it..
But I still sleep almost every night. I get weird & bitchy if I'm up more than 24hrs..

 

[drewbocop]

Biker Mef is da best. I smoked ice from age 20-27 but I was on heroin too so I felt like it balanced me out..The first time I tried it was in rehab in California. I snorted a fat line with my roommate & left rehab to go shoot it up for 5 days.
I lost my mind & told myself never again. My 2 roommates that left rehab with me, we all marched our skitzin asses back to the rehab & begged them to take us back. So much weird shit happened to me in those 5 days...Veryy weird things..
After that I didn't try it again for a few years & I told myself I was allergic to IV'ing that shit...
but after getting clean off everything for a lil over 2 years, I've really grown to hate it.
I relapsed on coke & honestly I like coke a lot better.. it gets you up without all the weird side effects that Ice gives me..
Ice is WAYYY too much for me now by itself. The smell makes me gag most of the time so does the taste..but I wanna be awake so I deal with it..
But I still sleep almost every night. I get weird & bitchy if I'm up more than 24hrs..

The sheer dopamine flood of methamphetamine is insane. It's just not something you can maintain and keep it together. Really, I'm supposed to be on stimulant ADHD meds, but even the thought of taking Dexedrine or Vyvanse kinda scares me these days. I have enough eating and sleeping issues!

 

[Sixx_Psychonaut]

Different chemicals compared to Seudo cook back in the day now P2P method used and also Racemic changing to D-iso methamphetamine