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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Meth Meth biovailability

QueenElizabeth123 said:
hmmmm might have to get out the needle
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Honestly the best routes regardless of bioavailability are IV, Oral, vaporized, then nasal. IV meth is entirely different from the rest I won't glorify but IV meth made me forget a 15 year heroin/opioid addiction like it was nothing and I tried everything before that to quit. Oral with the right dose will actually give you a rush, it last the longest and the comedown is gradual so its much smoother. Eating a capsule then maybe hitting a bowl here and there is best for me now. I want to go back to IV but it's a dangerous mistress.
 
Methamphetamine is a very potent stimulant drug, people who are addicted and using everyday take insanely excessive amounts. Let's say you have a gram of Methamphetamine, and let's say it's 90% purity which is actually considerably low. That's 900 milligrams of Methamphetamine. No matter how you take it, that's a lot of drugs for the average person. Meth is very effective even orally, and very long lasting this way.

Some people are using this much daily. To put this into perspective, a 30 count Adderall prescription has anywhere from 300 (10s), 600 (20s) to 900 (30s) milligrams of Amphetamine, a considerably less potent closely related compound. Some folks are using more than a gram a day, and grams of meth here in the United States go scary cheap. It's the 2nd most common "street drug" in the country, next to Marijuana.

I know all of this is not related to the question, but hopefully it will give you insight on the insanity at hand here. And please... DONT shoot this shit up man! You can take it literally any other way, honestly your probably best of snorting it and avoid other ROAs. Oral is very, very long lasting do not undermine it. Please take my advice friend! It's in your best interest.


Much love 💚 ~ RoBoInSlowMo
 
I used to say snort it but now. That fucking burn just isn't worth it. Especially since I've then became a IV user
 
RoBoInSlowMo said:
Methamphetamine is a very potent stimulant drug, people who are addicted and using everyday take insanely excessive amounts. Let's say you have a gram of Methamphetamine, and let's say it's 90% purity which is actually considerably low. That's 900 milligrams of Methamphetamine. No matter how you take it, that's a lot of drugs for the average person. Meth is very effective even orally, and very long lasting this way.

Some people are using this much daily. To put this into perspective, a 30 count Adderall prescription has anywhere from 300 (10s), 600 (20s) to 900 (30s) milligrams of Amphetamine, a considerably less potent closely related compound. Some folks are using more than a gram a day, and grams of meth here in the United States go scary cheap. It's the 2nd most common "street drug" in the country, next to Marijuana.

I know all of this is not related to the question, but hopefully it will give you insight on the insanity at hand here. And please... DONT shoot this shit up man! You can take it literally any other way, honestly your probably best of snorting it and avoid other ROAs. Oral is very, very long lasting do not undermine it. Please take my advice friend! It's in your best interest.


Much love 💚 ~ RoBoInSlowMo
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Reply absolutely this needs to be the mindset now. I went from shooting up to 0.4 grams at once to not dosing more than 100 to 200mg max. Even that is a lot. If you have the time check my other posts on here regarding all that. With no tolerance and the meth that is constantly testing 97 percent all over the US and everyone freaking out that it's laced is such paranoia with no factual basis. What the facts do support is more pure, potent and cheap meth than ever that is causing meth toxicity very fast and that is mistaken for dirty cut dope or N iso or whatever other crazy theory with no backing. I've posted things backing my opinion on this as well like the lab tests of meth every six months for years. Everyone needs to realize less is MORE.
 
Interesting that UK HR agencies estimate 10 IV speed users to each IV H user.

I cannot imagine anyone's sanity lasting long with those doses.
 
plumbus-nine said:
I would heavily advise against that for harm reduction's sake. It's not worth it to risk your health for a mere 20% increase in bioavailability vs. the nasal route.
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The nasal route is something I advise against for only 1 reason and that's the unrelenting Burn it has on your nostrils. If your open to opinion, I'd go with the boof. Put it in ur butt. Go buy an enema from your local drug store and empty it, rinse it out then refill with steril water (boil then let cool) and throw your desired amount (half of what your normally use to by injecting or snorting) in the enema and fill it all the way with that steril water and then stick it up ur A hole and expunge. Have fun ya.
Fertile said:
Interesting that UK HR agencies estimate 10 IV speed users to each IV H user.

I cannot imagine anyone's sanity lasting long with those doses.
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JAGattack14 said:
Honestly the best routes regardless of bioavailability are IV, Oral, vaporized, then nasal. IV meth is entirely different from the rest I won't glorify but IV meth made me forget a 15 year heroin/opioid addiction like it was nothing and I tried everything before that to quit. Oral with the right dose will actually give you a rush, it last the longest and the comedown is gradual so its much smoother. Eating a capsule then maybe hitting a bowl here and there is best for me now. I want to go back to IV but it's a dangerous mistress.
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I do the same thing, I'll take a piece break in half day half and melt half. Do a few puffs and maintenance from there wastes so much less I find.
 
Hey @QueenElizabeth123 are you located in the UK?

I'm just curious if Methampetamine has got its hooks in your area yet?

There's not really a great justification for using Methamphetamine intravenously just for the bioavailability. You can get great bioavailability and a quick hit by vaporizing it. You don't even need a special pipe. It's pretty easy for anyone to do it off of some tin foil, although there is some practice involved in mastering the technique.

I would try that before injection. There are so many downsides to injecting and Methamphetamine is pretty unforgiving to the veins.
 
QueenElizabeth123 said:
hmmmm might have to get out the needle
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Rectal administration is stated to be as high as 99%. That's assuming that you clean out the rectal cavity, you dissolve it properly, and you administer it with a baby medicine syringe while lying on your side so you don't lose anything.

You won't get the huge rush from IV, however, you will get almost all the dose.

My personal experience with rectal administration of substances indicates that it is much more bioavailable via rectal than any other non-IV route of administration. I do not IV substances.
 
StickToYourGuns said:
According to Wikipedia:
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Here is my view based on my personal experience over the past 25 or so years of usage.

Slamming aka intravenous: You might be getting it all of it, but you're bypassing your body's built in safety mechanisms. Its a different high for me, up quicker but def less of the euphoria. Also after the first hit it's hard to get the needle in the right spot once you're tweaking and going into the muscle hurts like hell (and is a much lower high). Never share (friend of mine died of hep C from sharing needles), filter (cig filters work) and use a wipe. My assessment is it's fun on occasions but generally not worth the risks.

Snorting: Way to go for me. Use a saline spray to moisten your nose to assist absorption. If it burns a lot then you may need to 'wash' with the saline or source elsewhere with fewer cutting agents. If the burn gets too strong you can always use a little more saline spray to wash it down. There is no waste as the drip is absorbed same as oral by your stomach. Note I tend to keep empty saline bottles and using them when discretion is required. Dissolve the meth in the saline and virtually no one will know.

Smoking: I like to use this to 'top up' between bumps or on social occasions (eg someone passing the cracky). But I generally try to limit due to damage to lungs and airways (also I was a former heavy smoker). High wise this is nearly as good as slamming but with the feel of snorting.

Plugging: I have had mixed success with plugging (aka rectal) delivery (mostly with pills but I've also tried meth on many occasions). Even if you've just emptied your bowel, once I pop something up I almost certainly start to feel like I need to poop again (somewhere between 5 -10 min). I don't find it a gentle urge, think more like the worst diarrhea. Messy and chances are you'll lose it before its absorbed. I wouldn't recommend it at all.

Oral: If I've been on a long bender and my nose is sore, then that might be a time I put meth in caps and swallow it. I will sometimes kick off a bender with a few caps to start the 'long game'. I also use them if I'm going to a party / festival where I don't want to have drugs on me and be totally baked when I first arrive. Lower high but much longer lasting. Has it's uses.

Just one general comment, I have used l-dopa (aka velvet bean powder) for many years, both as a neuro-protector and to top up your dopamine levels pre/mid/post bender. I strongly suggest you try and assess it's merits for yourself (esp if you plan to use meth for a long time).
 
Keif' Richards said:
Hey @QueenElizabeth123 are you located in the UK?

I'm just curious if Methampetamine has got its hooks in your area yet?

There's not really a great justification for using Methamphetamine intravenously just for the bioavailability. You can get great bioavailability and a quick hit by vaporizing it. You don't even need a special pipe. It's pretty easy for anyone to do it off of some tin foil, although there is some practice involved in mastering the technique.

I would try that before injection. There are so many downsides to injecting and Methamphetamine is pretty unforgiving to the veins.
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Everybody LISTEN to this person, I had five years clean off of meth. Within the last 2 weeks I’ve been dabbling. I’ve shot up twice in those two weeks. (I’m lucky I could keep it to that) and it’s the riskiest thing I’ve probably ever done. It’s really not that much different of a feeling than smoking it I promise. The LAST thing you want is to miss a shot of meth I promise you this.
 
Problem with banging meth is that you can get hooked on the rush as well as the high.

I had a bout with speed as a teenager. Coincidently, much of that drop speed was meth or mostly meth. Went down that dirt road and made my way back after all the typical issues.

Tried banging meth later in life and spent a year chasing that rush. I shot meth (etc.) Friday night. Shot enough in a few shots to be speeding until Sunday night. Then abstained until the following Friday. I did this because it's the only way to keep getting that rush.

So, anyway, banging meth can give you two addictions. Addicted to the high. and addicted to the rush.
 
Man iv meth and see was it....until it fucked up my life. Strongly urge you to let your tolerance go down and resume another way or just stop altogether. It's not long until your slamming uncomfortable amounts looking for that rush. Damn near impossible to lead any kind of meaningful life. I found with this route the mind deteriorates long before the body and even after quitting my sex drive is nada.
Your gona do what your gona do so if that's the route rotate sites, do not miss and try and keep it to one and done with a point or a point and a half of crys.
 
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