Meth Meth + Benadryl/comedown

[albatross15]

Hey guys can somebody help me out with what’s going on?

Unfortunately I was stupid and relapsed on meth after 6 months clean.

A friend of mine was smoking and so I gave in for the night, splitting a total
Of 3 or 4 bowls over 3 hours .i took my last hit around 20 hours ago, have yet to sleep, have been drinking water and had a couple of slices of pizza.

Anyway, I was getting extremely tired but my mind was still racing far too fast to get any sleep, so I wanted to try Benadryl. I came across a post advising that 50mg should do the trick.

After taking 2 25g pills and not feeling the slightest difference, I came across a different post that said they take 150 mg, so I popped 4 more pills down the hatch.

About 30 min later I felt tired and heavy and saw what looked like 2 spiders run across the wall and disappear. I see a bunch of vapor coming out of the ac that I’ve never seen before. I hear voices coming out of the ac. I have a popcorn textured ceiling and everytime I look at it, it kind of flows like a mushroom trip, and green and purple triangles appear everywhere.

I wasn’t attempting to take the Benadryl to get high. I never have, but imagine the “deleriant” dose is much higher than 150mg. I was merely trying to get some sleep.

The other thing is I now have a burst of energy, like I’m in speed again .

None of these symptoms would alarm me too much if I had been in a 3+ day bender. I guess I’m a little concerned because I smoked a lot less than I would have in the past, took 150 mg Benadryl, and Im getting some pretty significant effects.

What’s going on with me? Am I going to be ok?

 

[Methamphetanonymous]

Hey guys can somebody help me out with what’s going on?

Unfortunately I was stupid and relapsed on meth after 6 months clean.

A friend of mine was smoking and so I gave in for the night, splitting a total
Of 3 or 4 bowls over 3 hours .i took my last hit around 20 hours ago, have yet to sleep, have been drinking water and had a couple of slices of pizza.

Anyway, I was getting extremely tired but my mind was still racing far too fast to get any sleep, so I wanted to try Benadryl. I came across a post advising that 50mg should do the trick.

After taking 2 25g pills and not feeling the slightest difference, I came across a different post that said they take 150 mg, so I popped 4 more pills down the hatch.

About 30 min later I felt tired and heavy and saw what looked like 2 spiders run across the wall and disappear. I see a bunch of vapor coming out of the ac that I’ve never seen before. I hear voices coming out of the ac. I have a popcorn textured ceiling and everytime I look at it, it kind of flows like a mushroom trip, and green and purple triangles appear everywhere.

I wasn’t attempting to take the Benadryl to get high. I never have, but imagine the “deleriant” dose is much higher than 150mg. I was merely trying to get some sleep.

The other thing is I now have a burst of energy, like I’m in speed again .

None of these symptoms would alarm me too much if I had been in a 3+ day bender. I guess I’m a little concerned because I smoked a lot less than I would have in the past, took 150 mg Benadryl, and Im getting some pretty significant effects.

What’s going on with me? Am I going to be ok?

Oooookay so I mean you already know this but expecting to sleep 20 hours after a huge meth sesh with a clean tolerance is just not the reality of amphetamines. In my experience, being desperate to sleep makes insomnia worse as it sortof adds to the anxiety. Best practice is to give up, and go find something to do until you trick your mind into being tired.

Next, there are some things that can help induce sleep faster of an amphetamine binge, ans some things that don't help. Benzos are the gold standard, but clonidine and seroquel are good too.

DPH is not good. It's not good to take for sleep sober- it's extra not good to take for sleep on an amphetamine comedown. Try unisom instead, or just make peace with the consequences unfortunately. Sleep aids are really- and I can't stress this enough -really bad in general. It can mess up your sleep cycle.

That being said, your thread piqued my interest. A few months ago I developed a cold and a cough, and after partaking in a relatively small amount of meth about 100mg orally that morning I cracked open a bottle of Nyquil and took a double dose of whatever the recommended was suggested on the bottle- not a big deal I take extra when I'm sick all the time.

I descended into vivid and wild hallucinations and colorful visuals. I actually found it somewhat pleasant, distortions of objects, colors melting into each other, patterns breaking out across the walls. It also seemed to reignite the amphetamine high. I was well into the comedown at that point but suddenly euphoria and energy was surging through me. Upsettingly though, whenever I closed my eyes it was like my eyelids were transparent: I could still see the room with them closed. That coupled with some troubing paranoia got me feeling a little on edge. This was NOT supposed to be happening. It wigged me out enough to wake up my wife and let her know my brain was wonking out, she gave me an antipsychotic and that finally knocked me out.


All this time I assumed the DXM was at fault, but I had wondered about the anti-histamine. Just out of curiosity thumbed through NCBI and came across this. Interesting.

Drug interaction between methamphetamine and antihistamines: behavioral changes and tissue concentrations of methamphetamine in rats - PubMed

Methamphetamine is a psychomotor stimulant, whereas first generation antihistamines cause sedation. Several studies have demonstrated that first generation antihistamines potentiate methamphetamine-induced psychomotor activation and two possible mechanisms have been postulated. One is blockage...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[albatross15]

Oooookay so I mean you already know this but expecting to sleep 20 hours after a huge meth sesh with a clean tolerance is just not the reality of amphetamines. In my experience, being desperate to sleep makes insomnia worse as it sortof adds to the anxiety. Best practice is to give up, and go find something to do until you trick your mind into being tired.

Next, there are some things that can help induce sleep faster of an amphetamine binge, ans some things that don't help. Benzos are the gold standard, but clonidine and seroquel are good too.

DPH is not good. It's not good to take for sleep sober- it's extra not good to take for sleep on an amphetamine comedown. Try unisom instead, or just make peace with the consequences unfortunately. Sleep aids are really- and I can't stress this enough -really bad in general. It can mess up your sleep cycle.

That being said, your thread piqued my interest. A few months ago I developed a cold and a cough, and after partaking in a relatively small amount of meth about 100mg orally that morning I cracked open a bottle of Nyquil and took a double dose of whatever the recommended was suggested on the bottle- not a big deal I take extra when I'm sick all the time.

I descended into vivid and wild hallucinations and colorful visuals. I actually found it somewhat pleasant, distortions of objects, colors melting into each other, patterns breaking out across the walls. It also seemed to reignite the amphetamine high. I was well into the comedown at that point but suddenly euphoria and energy was surging through me. Upsettingly though, whenever I closed my eyes it was like my eyelids were transparent: I could still see the room with them closed. That coupled with some troubing paranoia got me feeling a little on edge. This was NOT supposed to be happening. It wigged me out enough to wake up my wife and let her know my brain was wonking out, she gave me an antipsychotic and that finally knocked me out.


All this time I assumed the DXM was at fault, but I had wondered about the anti-histamine. Just out of curiosity thumbed through NCBI and came across this. Interesting.

Drug interaction between methamphetamine and antihistamines: behavioral changes and tissue concentrations of methamphetamine in rats - PubMed

Methamphetamine is a psychomotor stimulant, whereas first generation antihistamines cause sedation. Several studies have demonstrated that first generation antihistamines potentiate methamphetamine-induced psychomotor activation and two possible mechanisms have been postulated. One is blockage...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ended up falling asleep a few hours after this, and yeah, once I accepted the effects it did become somewhat enjoyable. I got a good 7 hours of sleep and woke up feeling like a million bucks minus 2 million. —I still feel like shit lol.

 

[yaesutom]

This happened to me too, with just 50mg normal dose of DPH. Specifically… on a meth comedown, it seems to initiate psychosis - and, adding Xanax made it even STRONGER somehow. I was seeing spiders, and seeing tons of people literally hanging out on all the treebranches and roofs outside. I remember thinking wow I’m so glad I took 3mg Xanax or else I’d be freaking out.

There is some strange thing happening and I’d love to know why but high dopamine stimulants and DPH don’t mix and definitely will cause instant psychosis at even low doses. Maybe it’s only in some people.