(Meth and Weed) - Beginner - a terrifying walk home

[garlic]

Hi everyone- I'm new to posting here, so please excuse any silly mistakes you might find in this post

I had (stupidly) decided to hang out with some strangers in the "bad side" of town a couple days ago. At first we were just smoking weed
(I'm already very experienced with weed), until someone passed me a meth pipe. I decided to say "fuck it" and give it a try. I took about four hits, two were baby hits and the rest were rather large. I then snorted too reasonably sized lines- another mistake. I began to become way more sociable and talkative, as I'm usually pretty quiet and mellow. Eventually I decided to head home, right as the meth really kicked in. And by "really" I mean that I was shaking profusely, couldn't hear a thing, and was sweating like a sinner in a church. While at the bus stop a lady was on the phone, and being the drug-ridden idiot I am, I responded to everything she said until I heard her say "There's some girl talking out loud at the bus stop, she's high as shit." After that embarrassment I just couldn't sit still. I kept hearing those same exact words, "High as shit...", until the bus came. I got on and thought that I was just sitting normally, until I noticed people staring and whispering. Or at least that's what I though, it very much could've just been the paranoia. I got off, not listening to what the bus driver said, something about me being alright. I began to walk to home and soon noticed how weird my walking was. My feet were dragging on the ground, my shoulders were held high, and I was still shaking. Two girls passed by me on skateboards, one yelled "Pothead!". I felt like crying, I just wanted to get home and have this trip be over. When I was nearly home I passed by another pair of girls. They talked loudly about how my hair looked like shit (I didn't notice that the wind had blown my bangs all over my face, and the sweat made it all gross and greasy), and then called me a crackhead... god, I really felt like shit. I eventually got home, and luckily my dad wasn't there. I passed out in my bed, and my trip didn't end until about six in the morning (it started around one pm).

I do have various mental illnesses and take about five medications for them, I'm assuming that it might have had something to do with it (I tried looking it up, wasn't very well documented)
I don't think I'll ever be trying meth again, but if I do, it'll definitely be with some trusted trip sitters and not in public.

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[Xorkoth]

Ugh, that sounds terrible. I have tried meth 3 times and I doubt I ever will again... I think you took a lot, especially for your first time. I smoked it each time I tried it, and the first 2 times I smoked about what you did, and was really high, but in a pretty nice way. The last time I smoked maybe double that and it was verging on too much at times. I didn't snort any either time but that's probably what got you. In any case, I find the negative side effects and comedown of meth to not be worth the high.

 

[Keif' Richards]

That sounds bad. Methamphetamine sounds like it's really easy to overdo on.

 

[Neithman]

you did way too much,pure methamp is twice as potent as pure amphetamine,so you need about 20-30 mg for a good ride.Considering street stuff is maybe 30-50% pure you still you only need about 70 mg for your first time,which is a tiny amount,like one small-medium sized line.
Because of the cristalline form,its heavier than powder,therefore big amounts dont look that much,and you consume way more than you think you do.
Anyways,meth is a substance better not to dabble with,for me the devastating neurotoxic effects of meth is the thing that prevents me from methamp use the most and with mental problems you honestly shouldnt use any stimluant at all,they fuck up your mind big time even without mental problems.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Personally I can't imagine feeling the need for more than 8 or 10 mg of meth at a time. That's enough to make me plenty energized, chatty, and self-confident. Eyeballed, that probably looks like no more than a dozen granules of table sugar.

 

[IceDancer]

It's not really over doing it per-say. It's that the user is more aware of the users body, for example the user done a huge line and went into the living room and sat down watching television. The high kicks in and the user becomes more alert and notices that the users heart is pumping fast. The user starts to worry just a little bit and anxiety kicks in. The user is going to trip hard until the high wares off. I'd say the users tolerance and mindset.

 

[dreamofrc]

Sounds like a bad experience. Glad you are okay though. Also you weren't kidding about the "bad side of town". Multiple people insulting you walking down the street is pretty harsh... It might just not be a drug you'd enjoy anyway. I've tried it a few times and also regular amphetamines a few times and I just don't see the appeal. They make me feel too on edge/paranoid rather than feeling good. The only "upper" I've ever really enjoyed was coke, but even that doesn't compare to other drugs for me.

I have a theory that people tend to prefer drugs that basically amplify their personality, just something I've noticed doing drugs with various people over the years. Quieter/mellow people tend to be more likely to enjoy opiates/benzos/downers. More outgoing people tend to enjoy meth/coke/uppers. I'm sure I am generalizing too much, but it has usually been true with the people I have met.

 

[IceDancer]

Excellent observation on this theory.

I have a theory that people tend to prefer drugs that basically amplify their personality, just something I've noticed doing drugs with various people over the years. Quieter/mellow people tend to be more likely to enjoy opiates/benzos/downers. More outgoing people tend to enjoy meth/coke/uppers. I'm sure I am generalizing too much, but it has usually been true with the people I have


I'm going to agree with you on this. I'm always up and going or doing something. I never talk to anybody even when friends are around. I study everyone and everything. I also enjoy acting dumb and letting everyone think I'm new to the using life or let people think their playing me in general. I have the personality of someone who's street smart but looks like a newbie to the game.
Anyways, I'm a speed user drug of choice that i use 3 or 4 days on and 2 off is Crystal. I'll use coke and amphetamine pills. I'll get strung out easly with speed.Now with opiates it's a different story. I'll use heroin and pills all day long. But, i don't get that addiction feeling or craving i need more. You're right, cause my sister like heroin, my other sister love heroin/Crystal. My mother loves benozos and painers. While my dad did get into crack for a few months. He doesn't seem to have a get up and go personality. Who knows, he was young way before i was born.

In my honest opinion it's personality and what you started experimenting with. I started with bud than adderall. Moving towards pain pills and when heroin came into the picture. All the people i went to school with and friends got hooked on the heroin and took off with it. I didn't do that, i used but didn't click as posted above. When meth came around, oh god damn i was gone and hooked.

Anyways, like what you said.

IceDancer

 

[pbuilder]

Hi everyone- I'm new to posting here, so please excuse any silly mistakes you might find in this post

I had (stupidly) decided to hang out with some strangers in the "bad side" of town a couple days ago. At first we were just smoking weed
(I'm already very experienced with weed), until someone passed me a meth pipe. I decided to say "fuck it" and give it a try. I took about four hits, two were baby hits and the rest were rather large. I then snorted too reasonably sized lines- another mistake. I began to become way more sociable and talkative, as I'm usually pretty quiet and mellow. Eventually I decided to head home, right as the meth really kicked in. And by "really" I mean that I was shaking profusely, couldn't hear a thing, and was sweating like a sinner in a church. While at the bus stop a lady was on the phone, and being the drug-ridden idiot I am, I responded to everything she said until I heard her say "There's some girl talking out loud at the bus stop, she's high as shit." After that embarrassment I just couldn't sit still. I kept hearing those same exact words, "High as shit...", until the bus came. I got on and thought that I was just sitting normally, until I noticed people staring and whispering. Or at least that's what I though, it very much could've just been the paranoia. I got off, not listening to what the bus driver said, something about me being alright. I began to walk to home and soon noticed how weird my walking was. My feet were dragging on the ground, my shoulders were held high, and I was still shaking. Two girls passed by me on skateboards, one yelled "Pothead!". I felt like crying, I just wanted to get home and have this trip be over. When I was nearly home I passed by another pair of girls. They talked loudly about how my hair looked like shit (I didn't notice that the wind had blown my bangs all over my face, and the sweat made it all gross and greasy), and then called me a crackhead... god, I really felt like shit. I eventually got home, and luckily my dad wasn't there. I passed out in my bed, and my trip didn't end until about six in the morning (it started around one pm).

I do have various mental illnesses and take about five medications for them, I'm assuming that it might have had something to do with it (I tried looking it up, wasn't very well documented)
I don't think I'll ever be trying meth again, but if I do, it'll definitely be with some trusted trip sitters and not in public.

What are the five medications you are on? I suspect you may have had a drug interaction. Any drug that effects serotonin (anti-depressants are usually selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors) would have an interaction with the methamphetamine because methamphetamine also has some mechanisms of action that work on the serotonin system in the brain. Thus I imagine that if you are on a SSRI medication, the combo of the meth + the ssri would lead to a more "trippy" experience, as well as possibly lead to increased paranoia, more so then just methamphetamine would cause alone. And the marijuana would likely just amplify this paranoia even more.

SSRI's + meth could also potentially lead to serotonin syndrome, which can put you in a life or death situation. In the future I'd recommend you google any substances you are going to use, and check if it has any drug interactions with any of your prescription medications.

Also, meth + weed alone can definitely cause psychosis as well, especially if you already have mental illness. I'd recommend you just avoid meth in the future, no good will ever come from it. It's a drug that really damages the brains dopamine/serotonin systems, and can heavily exacerbate existing mental illness symptoms and problems, potentially permanently.

 

[TheTwighlight]

^^^
I forgot to mention that I took all that speed last night within 5 or 6 hours, but most of it within an hour.
Not bragging, it's just not as dangerous as the man would have you believe.