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Meth and straight men getting a little gay for a minute

"Straight"? LMAO the only thing straight about these in denial or deeply closeted DL men is that they try to run a guy straight into bed, a car, etc.

If they are having sex with men they are bisexual or gay. If they were really heterosexual/straight they would have never had sex with men or seek out male sex partners, or have sexual attraction to the same sex like this.
I reckon if I was high & horny enough and somebody I wasn't attracted to wanted to suck my dick, I'd probably let them have at it so long as they weren't literally physically repulsive. Sometimes sexual attraction isn't needed for a sexual encounter, just a desperate want to get off. Your dick doesn't care how it's being stimulated at the end of the day.
 
As a totally straight male, I must admit that given enough stims, I get an intense compulsion to shove things up my arse. This compulsion is totally absent when not on stims, so yeh, anything is fuckin possible...
 
I reckon if I was high & horny enough and somebody I wasn't attracted to wanted to suck my dick, I'd probably let them have at it so long as they weren't literally physically repulsive. Sometimes sexual attraction isn't needed for a sexual encounter, just a desperate want to get off. Your dick doesn't care how it's being stimulated at the end of the day.
If you are out as gay/homosexual would you let a woman give you oral sex, or give her vaginal sex? I habe a dear gay platonic friend who has known my family for over 50 years, as they first met him before he was out and when he was forcing himself in the late 1970s to date and have sex with a woman as if he came out then in his community and culture he risked danger. He said how sex with one lady he dated very briefly, that sex with her just showed him how he is gay/homosexual and not sexually attracted to any woman at all, or to anyone who is not an actual man. He did say how he had to drink alcohol first not getting drunk but a glass of wine or a mixed drink to take the edge off, that he had to think about naked men constantly to get hard, stay hard, and pretend to finish, and that to him as a gay man sex with a woman was basically no better than a super fast wank with premature ejaculation, and it was completely empty sex that he did not regret but just taught him he is gay and had to come out and start dating and sleeping safely with men which he did after he had graduated university, and was working and living away from his family and where he grew up. He did come out to his family and friends, and we are all fine with him being gay but if he had came out in the late 1970s where he was from his family, friends, peers, teachers, co-workers, etc. all would have not reacted favorably and would have not liked it at all.

I am not heterosexual/straight, however when I asked various hetero/straight male friends if they would ever have sex with a man if offered, they could not pick up a lady in a bar/dance club/online, could not find a hooker for the ones into this, or if they were drunk and high etc. They all said no as they are not sexually attracted to men and they would rather get with the ugliest, oldest, and not physically attractive woman instead.
 
Can we just say that stims make people into these horny weirdos and leave it at that?

I mean, more so than usual, I’d say that most humans are USUALLY horny weirdos
And this is why we never will. What is obvious to women, takes a lot of concentration for men...
 
I don’t think any drug can make anyone gay. If your into man just on stims, I think you are just bi that needs something that lowers inhibition to be comfortable with that fact.
 
Never done Meth but done lots of MDPV. I'd get down with nasty porn for a day (nothing gay) but very soon after I'd drift off onto the subject of killing people. Like get a hook up app & cutting the persons head off.
God knows what Meth would do to me!!!!!

Everyone else on BL is thinking of cocks when high, I'm planning murder.......
 
There are actually scientific studies showing that administering dopamine D2 receptor agonists to male rats causes them to start having sex with each other. However, this appears to only occur under certain circumstances: they have to be isolated from females, they have to have not actually had sex with any females yet, and they always nudge them in the right direction by coating one of the males with a pleasant scent. That all being said, it really does work under these conditions. By contrast it does not seem to work on female rats.

Enhaced D2-type receptor activity facilitates the development of conditioned same-sex partner preference in male rats

Conditioned same-sex partner preference in male rats is facilitated by oxytocin and dopamine: Effect on sexually dimorphic brain nuclei

Same-sex cohabitation under the effects of quinpirole induces a conditioned socio-sexual partner preference in males, but not in female rats

Heterosexual experience prevents the development of conditioned same-sex partner preference in male rats
 
I've had this experience NUMEROUS times....
I've been with at least 20 "straight" guys in my lifetime, including married ones. (I know, I'm a slut, but not anymore).

Not just with meth but also with alcohol & ecstasy.
But honestly, I don't think it's just the "drugs making them gay". Or at least I'm skeptical of that.
I think they're already gay/bi and the drug allows them to let go of their inhibitions.

Cause as a gay ex-meth user, no matter how horny I was, I still was never into women, nor did I fuck any women (and I could have had so many lol).
Numerous times I've gotten spun out with pretty hot women & all we did was chat the entire time. I wouldn't have been able to even get hard for a woman, especially on a strong vasoconstrictor like meth. lol Pffft, please. lol Hell I would ditch my chick friends to go get with a guy when I really had to.

So I highly doubt the guys are "totally straight" to begin with. Otherwise I would go straight when I use meth, xtc or alcohol but I don't. lol
But who knows for sure really.

I don't doubt there are guys out there who might experiment under the influence too & are actually straight. But all the ones I met were definitely raging closeted homosexuals who couldn't get enough but were too chicken (and probably always will be) to actually come out and say they're gay or even consider having relationships with men.

My experience has made me realize that there are so many women out there being lied to & played like a fiddle everyday & they are completely oblivious to it. People have been (or use to be anyway) conditioned to think that if a guy is manly, likes sports, hangs out with the 'guys' & does all these manly things, then there's just no possible way he could be gay. But they're wrong & a lot of them just choose to stay ignorant about it. Makes me wonder how the gov & poling places can even get accurate numbers on statistics about "gay men" when so many gay & bisexual men are hiding their sexuality.
 
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Otherwise I would go straight when I use meth, xtc or alcohol but I don't.

It's not really scientific to assume that though. It's entirely possible that it works one way but not the other. See the above studies I linked that had an impact in male rats but not female rats. Maybe stimulants only increase attraction to men, specifically, if they really do anything of the sort.
 
It's not really scientific to assume that though. It's entirely possible that it works one way but not the other. See the above studies I linked that had an impact in male rats but not female rats. Maybe stimulants only increase attraction to men, specifically, if they really do anything of the sort.
Yeah true, I was actually just going through your comment above mine a minute ago.

Anything is possible.
If it's true, it could mean that dopamine plays a role in homosexuality, which would be very interesting. But it also might not play a role.
The studies did say they have to be isolated from females, so there's one thing I see about that.

And the fact that we can't totally compute rat behavior into human behavior, especially regarding something as complex as sexuality.
Messing with dopamine receptors can also cause all kinds of psychological effects. So it's possible the rats didn't know/care that they were fucking other males rats or some other obscure subjective reason. Unfortunately we can't' ask the rats why they did it. lol
 
Unfortunately we can't' ask the rats why they did it. lol

Yeah, this is really important. I personally think it’s likely that any brain can have sex as any gender with any sexual orientation under the right circumstances, because that’s why things like traumatic dissociation exist, to make your body go along with a situation even though you want to escape it for the sake of your own survival. If that’s what the rats are experiencing, the scientists are basically Stockholm syndroming them into behaving as gay. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’d ever prefer it still under any ideal circumstances.

I just thought it was worth sharing the science. We still don’t actually know how it is for them either way.
 
Yeah, this is really important. I personally think it’s likely that any brain can have sex as any gender with any sexual orientation under the right circumstances, because that’s why things like traumatic dissociation exist, to make your body go along with a situation even though you want to escape it for the sake of your own survival. If that’s what the rats are experiencing, the scientists are basically Stockholm syndroming them into behaving as gay. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’d ever prefer it still under any ideal circumstances.

I just thought it was worth sharing the science. We still don’t actually know how it is for them either way.
I thought it was interesting. Thanks for sharing! :)

Yeah there's too many variables I think to say one way or another. You're right about how they're basically stockholming them. I thought of that too but had a hard time articulating it in my last comment. Rough day. :p
 
Never done Meth but done lots of MDPV. I'd get down with nasty porn for a day (nothing gay) but very soon after I'd drift off onto the subject of killing people. Like get a hook up app & cutting the persons head off.
God knows what Meth would do to me!!!!!

Everyone else on BL is thinking of cocks when high, I'm planning murder.......
Nah. I used to have a competition with my ex to guess the disease, in episodes of 'House', before Hugh Laurie.
Public sex and how to kill people without leaving Forensic evidence. Is that dark enough (it got worse with my wife, really!)
 
Nah. I used to have a competition with my ex to guess the disease, in episodes of 'House', before Hugh Laurie.
Public sex and how to kill people without leaving Forensic evidence. Is that dark enough (it got worse with my wife, really!)
I can relate very well, glad it isn't just me who thinks this way.
It makes me smile how all these lot try to label nearly everyone else as being gay under stim's, anyone tried some gay stuff on with me when I was tweaking it would have been a huge mistake.
 
Literally every single one. Meth lowers your walls and inhibitions also kind of clouds your judgment. Lol clouds

I think of every single straight guy that I know that got into meth for any amount of time. .. yea they all would do gay stuff while high. A couple of them ended up as same sex prostitutes even though they had a girlfriend that didn't know anything. Wild stuff.

Sometimes I wonder if I tried meth again would it turn me straight lol Even for a moment
 
Sry if this topic has been done b4. Do u have any experiences or know of such stories where one of your straight friend was really high, had confusing thoughts, and took your rumored
"equal opportunity" proclivities and had a great fucking time,

(He looks around for witnesses then says)
This never happened, I'm not gay, You know this.

Tell me a time a straight guy was so high, he could be into dudes maybe for a minute, and maybe you dreamed that impossibly straight dream. Luck.
I was seduced by an older gay man who was able to get me into his apartment and get me spun for the first time in my life. next I knew, I was buried deep in him doggy with the lights off and only straight porn playing in the dark. repulsed the next day but ngl, felt good mid coitus.
 
Stuck Between a Cock & a Hard Face.



It doesnt "turn" you gay, it "unlocks" thoughts of activities that would bring pleasure and you feel compelled to quell this yearning. In most cases people get off with their partners. For the single user, they have to take what they can. Some can quench the thirst for sexual pleasure by masturbating. Sometimes multiple times a day during the effect. Others who have neither a partner, nor get satisfaction from masturbation get and / or give a "brojob" to / from a "friend." Lastly, some turn into F.A.G.S ( Full Anal Get Sucked ) for the duration ( or until they get satisfaction ). Meth makes you feel androgynous a lot and you see men and women as something to experience pleasure with. It also makes you a bit "greedy" and "entitled". Combine those three things and you may just be wanting your long time bowling partner Larry and Tim to make a "London Bridge" out of you. To which I say, go for it just practice safe sex and focus as sometimes the drug can make you not give a shit about consequences later ( luckily some of us have never had that problem ).

Ill use my own experience just to be fair. I am straight, bi, AND gay. I call this "TRI-SEXUAL." I have a protocol that if I get the horns while high I will try and find a woman ( Im a male ). MOST of the time ( about 80% ) I am straight. If I cant find a woman and still got the horns, I have a guy I know who is the same way and have known him since childhood and we will fuck. Im not talking about some silly "rule" where we limit ourselves like , "ok man lets just give each other head" or "I only top, dont kiss the dude, let him give me head and i slam his ass, but I never bottom." I feel if you are gonna dance with the devil, you might as well lead. Trust me, the dope will make you forget about stupid shit like societal belief systems ( in my theory its probably one of the reasons people do it in the first place, especially poorer people ). We will also do dope during the sex, including "cloudjobs" ( where you inhale and blow a cloud over the penis and give head ) and "starfish kisses" ( where you take a tube and slowly blow the vapor thru the tube which is inserted into the anus ) <---OMG that feels soooo good especially while getting a p-spot massage WHILE getting head ) and plug some dope during. Just a fair warning, if you do a starfish kiss dont blow the vapor to fast into the ass or you might have the starfish blow you one back accompanied by a familiar sound. No I don't have a cool name for this and no im not gonna explain how I know it. I ...I...dont want to talk about it. Sorry for being anal (pun intended). If I cant get anyone, I will masturbate to straight, gay and bi porn most of the time wishing I was the guy in the video while doing meth and using p-spot toys until I "peter north".

Back to topic though, in our otherwise standard lives no one would be able to tell, even those with "gaydar" ( or should I say "bidar?" ). Now most in the straight and LBGT communities would say im either bi or confused but there is a LOT of grey area in sexuality. In retrospect we will roll , get high, fuck ( both of us are versatile tops and bottoms ). The grey area is this : When we arent high on meth we never even talk about or think about same sex and its not from a lack of anything. If someone were to ask me, Id tell them with no shame but for example, i have plenty of male and female , LBGT, etc friends that I spin with and Ive NEVER had sexual thoughts about them ( even the hot ones ).

In closing I think dudes that have gay experiences while high on dope are few and far between on average. They shouldnt feel bad about it unless its hurting someone else or others. Like a man that is like I am but doesnt have the same outlook and he has a wife. They later find out shes pregnant. They are happy until the doctor also reveals shes HIV positive. He gets tested and is also positive. This kinda shit pisses me off to no end. Its irresponsible and reckless as hell and now TWO innocent lives are changed dramatically forever because he was too much of a dumb ass and sucked one too many dicks at the gay porn theater and took one too many cocks up the ass at the local Turkish themed bath house getting high with too many people.

Regards,
Functional
 
Back in the day, most men didn't have the option of having casual sex with women, for a whole host of rather obvious reasons that shouldn't really need explaining to y'all if you invest a few seconds thinking about it.

Fortunately, most communities had a certain percentage of folks who were largely open to 'easing the burden' of another male's unfulfilled libido. Fortunately, they also had rather high libidos themselves, and were not permanently attached in a sexual sense to anyone else. They spent their lives looking after their own families and wider tribes.

Anyway those sexual interactions, it turns out, likely had beneficial effects on community cohesion, inter-tribal relations, and helping to maintain a healthy and productive tribe of happy peoples who weren't infighting and trying to rape anyone all day and every day.

But now we are so broken as a society and lost from our evolutionary origins, that people actually find it hard to understand why a group of men who aren't heterosexual or seeking to produce their own children would be useful to a society. Ah well...
 
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