Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

[claire22]

Yeah it's called gear here pretty frequently also. Never ever called it tweak, tweak is a term I only first heard on the Net! If I ever called it that here I'd get some fuckin' weird looks. A 'tweaker' is called a meth head or 'someone who loves the shards' down here lol. The term doesn't exist.

 

[Crankinit]

Yeah I think it's an american thing, never heard it here either.

I hate the term 'gear', it sounds so dirty, but it's pretty much universal here in SA. I miss calling it crystal, sounds much cleaner, like some magical power-up crystal from an old nintendo game or something :D Talking about 'gear' always makes me feel like a dirty junky.

 

[drug_wench]

dont get me wrong, i know you mean well in what youre saying, dw but came across as judgemental to me.there are many people still using and whether youre trying to quit or youre trying to deal with life on the drug, there should be a place for everyone to talk without judgement.

ur reading me all wrong but im sorry if it came across as judgmental
do u think i wud judge ppl doing exactly the same thing ive bn doing for 8 yrs and continue to still do occasionally? im not that ironic

i was only giving u a piece of factual info in the name of harm reduction (as a mod i feel this is my job), that u cud choose to take in or not - after all u may not know that amphetamines r horrendous drugs to use wen u suffer from bipolar
i was letting u know 'just in case', as i know a fair bit about amphetamines, AD(H)D and bipolar
i also thought u might b interested in some diffrent alternative methods of dealing with ADD in case u hadnt come across them
god knows im not condemning u

i think most ppl here can back me up in saying im not exactly a judgmental person - if u were to get to know me and i was to tell u (i am generally quite open about my past and wud b happy to share my story if u wanted to PM me) some of the shit ive done u wud see why

im just here for wen ppl want help and will always give my advice and support to someone who seems to b suffering - and u seemed to b suffering so i was offering some advice
this thread is not really discussion about the positive sides of amphetamine use - u will find most of us r dissing it in one way or another whether were still using or not, its a support/advice thread for speed freaks basically
but enough about that - PM me if u want to talk (and i will only come across as judgmental if u choose to perceive it that way, as its not meant like that from my side of things), if u want me to completely ignore u ftm i can do so

my apologies if i seemed judgmental again tho - if theres one thing i fucking hate its ppl being judgmental, thats why ive typed so much on the subject.....cos it bothers me to think anyone wud think of me as so

to the rest of u:

rangrz - ur story touched me and i want u to know i fucking salute u! %)

as far as 'wat we call it' goes, over here most ppl call methamphetamine P or pure if its top shit, ice or crystal meth if its that imported approx 80% pure shit usually imported from asia, and the regular shit just gets called fries or crack

only in NZ does meth get called 'crack' 8(

4-MAR also gets called ice but thats rare over here

i generally just call it all P cos, not to dick-size or anything, most of the shit i come across really is pure

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

I've heard ice from a few people but not frequently, usually it's guys who don't know anything about meth but are attempting to seem like they do (dealers I mean). Never heard gear in terms of meth, only a few times for heroin. Crystal I hear somewhat. Tweak has sort of gone a little out of style I guess you could say, but I still hear it all the time (my guy never calls it anything but) and that's what I usually call it from habit. If you say tweaker here everyone will know what you're saying, one of my profs used it during a lecture last week (and she's in her fifities and definitely not a drug user!)

I feel like a lot of different terms get thrown around by region here, but also by different social/economic groups that have different names for it (example; my gay friend and his friends call it "Tina" but I've never heard that from anyone else).

Footscrazy-- never heard it called crack here. Among everyone I've known crack has a worse rep than tweak-- crackheads are viewed as the "lowest" drug users so no one would ever use the term... plus I would be really confused if someone were to use that term since I would assume they WERE talking about crack...

 

[footscrazy]

^^ I think they call it crack because you smoke it out of a crackpipe and because crack is so rare in Aus that not many people have any experience with it.

I have heard it called gear but I could never ask for 'gear' from my dealers because for me and my dealers, gear = heroin, and I use both.

 

[drug_wench]

i think its only in NZ its called crack and thats cos we cant get (or ive never seen it here) crack cocaine

 

[zephyr]

I got the nod from my shrink to taper off seroquel at last ! Yay! He reckons I have an OCD issue that is anxiety related though. And the anxiety is related to my depression so it will be fixed up when my depression is.

I enrolled in an anti anxiety course run at a clinic near me as anxiety is crippling my life. Speed used to give me the ability to go out and about in public. I cant do that now and have not been able to in months.

What I have done to myself physically with OCD over washing myself has made it impossible to do anything outside without massive panic attacks. Has not improved at all with being sober. Actually. It got worse.

I have a source now. But have not called. I want to badly. But want my boyfriend more and he would kill me.

 

[drug_wench]

I have a source now. But have not called. I want to badly. But want my boyfriend more and he would kill me.

thank god for ur bf
but u must try and see that ur worth more than being fucked over by crystal meth too zeph
i wish u well in getting help with ur anxiety

mental illness was the reason for me turning to speed too - ADHD (which caused anxiety in me too)
as soon as i came off my ADHD meds i started to crave and occasionally lapse on meth again

it might b a gd idea to erase that source if its a number - if its a house, alert ur bf to its existance

lately since i know so many sources (half our neighbourhood) i let mum drug-test me
i, too, wud lose my bf if i used
and im sure glad of that

but its just getting to that point where i can tell myself that im worth more than wat im like wen im using thats the problem, and im guessing from ur post thats ur problem too zeph?

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

Is there any way for ME to check how much damage this shit has done to my nose?

I haven't had a check up specifically for it in almost two years. Last time there was significant damage... I'm just too embarassed to go and now I don't know where...

 

[8ft-Sativa]

^^ Do you like railing it over smoking?

I find that initial rush right after inhaling smoked Meth the best feeling and what I crave the most.

 

[speedgirl]

I'm starting to get seriosly health issues from injecting amphetamine. I've posted a thread about it in "Healthy Living"-"Fucked up arms and veins". I would be very thankful if someone with same abuse and/or even same problems could read it and maybe give me some advices.

//A slightly nervous Speedgirl

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

^^ Do you like railing it over smoking?

I find that initial rush right after inhaling smoked Meth the best feeling and what I crave the most.

No, I never rail it, just snort it.

This depresses the fuck out of me.... I took some seroquel and got a nap in today, and had this really weird dream that basically ended with me almost getting arrested for posession and losing some meth. It was one of those REALLY REAL dreams... I woke up and wasn't sure if it had happened or not but my first move was to jump out of bed and check to make sure my meth was here, I had the most horrible feeling of complete and utter dread I have ever had in my life... jesus christ depressing.

 

[DexterMeth]

I got the nod from my shrink to taper off seroquel at last ! Yay! He reckons I have an OCD issue that is anxiety related though. And the anxiety is related to my depression so it will be fixed up when my depression is.

I enrolled in an anti anxiety course run at a clinic near me as anxiety is crippling my life. Speed used to give me the ability to go out and about in public. I cant do that now and have not been able to in months.

What I have done to myself physically with OCD over washing myself has made it impossible to do anything outside without massive panic attacks. Has not improved at all with being sober. Actually. It got worse.

I have a source now. But have not called. I want to badly. But want my boyfriend more and he would kill me.

Please, stay strong. I know you can do it. I'm sure you know all about "PAWS"....you're gonna feel like crap anyways, so why not give it the old 2 year try, to get your normal per-meth brain chemistry back, more or less. And also, they may have already taught you this in your anxiety seminars, go out and do things that are normally (or even always) very challenging for you in terms of managing your anxiety. Use the "approaching/confronting" your fears method...and fuck all with the meanies that try to get in your way of resolving your issues that arrise from this. You're one of the strongest willed people I've ever met...an all "up in your face" type of person...more so than you might realize. And plus you have hope, your relationship you're in, and you already said yourself that he's more important to you than meth....fuck meth...I just did it today and was thinking about how you were...Meth hasn't been a problem for me for years, nor today(last night)...I use maybe once a year...you're farther along than me...you can't do that anymore...and believe you me, if I were in your shoes, even once a year would definately not be worth it at all....and FUCK seroquel...congrats on getting off that hogwash. Write me anytime about the problems your up against. I told you I'll never stop listening to you, writting you, if you want/care. I'm here for you to talk to if/whenever need be, ok? Many bright days full of meaning and love shooting your way....without drugs

 

[DexterMeth]

thank god for ur bf
but u must try and see that ur worth more than being fucked over by crystal meth too zeph
i wish u well in getting help with ur anxiety

mental illness was the reason for me turning to speed too - ADHD (which caused anxiety in me too)
as soon as i came off my ADHD meds i started to crave and occasionally lapse on meth again

it might b a gd idea to erase that source if its a number - if its a house, alert ur bf to its existance

lately since i know so many sources (half our neighbourhood) i let mum drug-test me
i, too, wud lose my bf if i used
and im sure glad of that

but its just getting to that point where i can tell myself that im worth more than wat im like wen im using thats the problem, and im guessing from ur post thats ur problem too zeph?

exactly...cept in my case it's mostly with heroin and a girlfriend ..oh but do I know tweak all too well. I essentially started using heroin to not go 100% insaine from all the meth years...I think I'm about done with heroin...it's been a long run...but yeah, once you find a special person out there that is worth more to you, just their mere prescense than drugs, why in the hell ever do whatever drug(s)? I'm lucky my gf loves her weed/hash, nitrous, shrooms, acid....and of course alcohol. Mostly just weed though...a total health nut in the end...I may be one of the few people that this happens to, but I find nitrious oxide to be a great teacher in getting off specific (or really any) addictive horrible life destroying drugs...it takes a bunch of mental steps and epiphanies though...and remembering them..I record all those quick fleating thoughts live on the nang...it essentially tells me exactly what I have to do in life to get what I want/where I want/be with who I want/be who i want/etc......in the end, nothing beats "tripping on air", fucking your gf/bf.

-The Zen Meditation garden, on the beach is a nice place to roam around and just smell her body and hair, putting flowers up in your hair...ahhhhh...bliss

 

[rangrz]

happy for myself today. I managed to use some speed, but not abuse/binge on it.

its a good feeling, controlling one self...

 

[belarki]

^^ Just read your post on the last page rangrz. It brought a tear to my eye; what an aweful thing to go through. You have my condolences and respect

 

[drug_wench]

I'm starting to get seriosly health issues from injecting amphetamine. I've posted a thread about it in "Healthy Living"-"Fucked up arms and veins". I would be very thankful if someone with same abuse and/or even same problems could read it and maybe give me some advices.

u can PM me and let me know a bit more about wat u actually mean by 'fucked up arms and veins' and i can give u as much advice as im qualified to give

my DOC is methamphetamine and my method of choice is injecting (i was also an opiate addict till i got on suboxone this yr) - ive bn injecting for coming up to 5yrs now, off and on (more on than off) so i hav bn thru a fair bit myself with constant bouts of phlebitis, ulcers, hepatitis (B luckily), missed shots, rolling veins, inflammation and bruising, etc
i hav also learnt thru BL, how to avoid (as much as poss) all of the above and wud b happy to share any info with u

mia - my advice is go to ur GP and talk to her about ur nose then if theyre worried theyll refer u on to an expert
a gd doctor will not condemn u for damage done to u by drug abuse - hey ive got some septum damage too
i used to snort a fair bit of speed/coke - both corrosive substances, hence my problems with my veins!

maybe u shud try alternating snorting with smoking meth to give ur nose a break (im sure u know to alternate switching nostrils) - obviously its ideal not to use meth at all but fact is u r so that might b a gd method of harm reduction
smoking meth doesnt hav as immediate or intense a rush IME but it keeps u high longer than if u were to snort it - u cud also parachute it or even swallow it
parachuting gives a nice rush and both ways (esp swallowing via empty pill capsules) will give u the least amount of harm wen done frequently
NB. while swallowing is ultimately safest unfortunately it doesnt hav a rush

dextermeth - ur story sounds similar to mine
wen my first bf died of a heroin OD i always promised myself id never touch heroin but hey i ended up a heroin addict in the end
i just needed something to bring me down from the meth, help me sleep
ppl talk about heroin making it hard to sleep - maybe if thats all they use.....if ur strung-out on meth, shooting heroin will make u sleep like a baby if ur anything like me

last night i found a point in the wardrobe - normally id throw it out, ive got to that stage.....and a point does shit-all anyway
but id had a bad day and i was angry at my bf and my mum...and worst of all......myself
so i banged the whole point and pretended to go to sleep

wen i cudnt get thru my dinner mum and paul guessed wat was up, paul got even more pissed at me and i didnt sleep all night so it affected me more than id expected (was actually gd shit)

by morning i crashed and wen i woke in the late afternoon the room stunk of the chemical coming out of my sweat......disgusting
plus, while ive bn pinging water lately so my arms r tracked anyway, like i say, amphetamines r corrosive substances (also vasoconstricters) so the usually slightly-darkened track going up my left arm is now all red and angry-looking

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

drug wench-- I know my doc wouldn't judge, it would just open doors to a lot of questions I don't really want to anwser right now since I've had the same doc for a while now and we've become pretty close with my almost bi-weekly visits before I lost insurance 8). I have the name of the specialist I saw a couple years ago, I'm just paranoid to use it because when I get my insurance back April 1st I'm just going to on my father's plan, so he can easily go and check to see where I've gone since it's his plan (and he's definitely one to do so! 8)). He won't be able to see what it was for but I know he remembers the guys name too that visit was a big rift in our relationship...

I can't smoke meth I don't know why. Snorting was always my preferred method because it's just quicker/can do it anywhere but I've gone through periods where I was smoking more... the comedown is horrible for me, and it makes me sick, I smoked it about a week ago and I vomited a few times. Also can't stand the smell, it makes me naeseous to be around someone smoking. I know, I'm a fucking weird tweaker 8) I just love snorting things period, I know IV users will inject water into their veins just to get the feeling, I love snorting drugs in that way....

I've never parachuted or swallowed it... maybe i will give it a try just to see how it goes.

I guess ultimately it doesn't really matter, I mean the damage is done already I guess I want to know how much more this relapse has fucked up my body than before, in hopes it will give me some motivation/desire to get off of it...

by point you mean .1 or 1g? (hear it both)

i'm sorry you hear you had some difficulties honey but as you've said many times slips ups are part of this addiction, you just have to make it a slip up, not a relapse (throwing your quotes back at you )

heroin made me sleep too... my best friend and i's favorite thing to do was lie down on his bed and listen to jazz and just drift in and out of sleep for hours and then get high some more... i miss hazy heroin filled days, better than tweaked out days

 

[rangrz]

^

mia, do try swallowing. Its easier on your body, and your pocket book....and the come down is less brutal.

belarki: thanks for the respect...it actaully means alot to this old soldier. But dont no one cry for me. I want rangrz to make only lulz and happy, not sadness.

 

[mrs_mia_wallace]

Rangz-- is it the same dosage as snorting?