Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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heres my story

so, i wrote a long post last night and my phone freaked and lost it so, im gonna try to whip this out... so, i have a long history with all drugs but im gonna say, i was a major crackhead for a long time and coke freak- up for days, blew all my money- you know the drill. i also did meth some but it wasnt around as much. what i want to talk about is being hooked to the extreme on prescription amphs. i know most meth users tend to blow off prescription amphs and yes, they arent exactly like meth but its pretty damn close. over a year ago, i was put on 60mg of ritalin for help with weight loss and appetite control. i was originally give ritalin, then concerta starting years ago for add, which i do have. anyway, right off the bat i started railing them and after a little bit, i disregarded the amount i was supposed to take and would take them in larger amounts. then it got to the point where i wanted to be more than high, i wanted to be extremely fucking spun. i got so i was up for days, temperature throuh the roof yet freezing, heart palps which led to paranoia, anger, massive anxiety, crying jags and unfortunately, a psychotic break. i was living with my mom then and i managed to keep it secret for a while. i would get in my zones where when you are passed talkative and active to being totally isolated, watching the same dvds over and over and obssesively playing repetative games or surfing the web on my phone for days at a time. i was hooked all i wanted was to be in my zone. then id start to get crazy. i was so afraid of coming down (ask me why seroquil was sheer hell when coming down) that i would keep railing to the point of massive intoxication. i used 150 20mg tabs in less than a week. well, one day trying to come down after a binge, the seroquel not knocking me out and hours of feeling trapped by the seroquel and nothing to focus on but my crazy heartbeat and my escalathing anxiety, and my sruggle to breathe,i got really scared and thought that i had really done it and that i was having a heart attack. my mom came up to check on me and i told her what was up and what id been doing and reluctantly that i needed the er. i push myself so much and brush off physical symtoms, in alot of situations, because im paranoid about dont want to look like im overreacting and there is nothing really wrong. so, i went to the hospital, the didnt give me anything, just gave me an ekg and desided to admit me to an unfortunately familiar, psych unit. i was pissed that i had exposed what i was doing for nothing. i slept for 3 days and my dr let me go without another script for ritalin. when i got home, i used the rest of my pills (i had told my mom they were gone) not as intensely but enough so i was zooming but not zoned. when i finally ran out i called my dr and convinced him (after he blasted me for abusing his script two weeks before) to put me back on the ritalin but he would only give me a weeks worth at a time. my mom decided that she was going to keep them and dose me daily. well, i would get the script filled and swap out the ritalin with reglan. so, this went on and i would binge then suffer till my next script. then one week my dr slipped and gave me a script for a months worth. i dont remember how it happened, i was probably grouchy when id run out of pills, but my mom found out that i swapped the pills- that was ugly. so she took my 30 day bottle right away and hid it. so i was hurting on the 60mg - it was enough to make me sketchy. every day when shed leave id scour the house looking for them until one day she gave me a pill from where shed hid them. she knew i saw but didnt move them. i was on my way to happy town. the reason i went on about this is that i wanted to show you what i did to feed my craving. blah blah blah i had some seve crashes and my bipolar was out of control plus the extreme speed use, i ended up having a complete psychotic break. went into hospital, off speed and ended up in a facility where i fell back into crack. so, thats me and i like lots and lots of speed and it happens to be the script kind. i just got an adderall script and i dont like it as much as ritakin. it takes me a too many pills in order to feel it. sorry this was so damn long. look fopward to talking to you guys.
 
Went to buy a tinny off my weed dealer. So I buy it off him than he's like"hey want some Meth?".
I was taken back, didn't know the guy smoked Meth. He's just had a newborn baby with his lovely wife. I'm kinda bummed he's doing Meth as parent of a new born I know he's a bit of a gambler on top of that.

Anyway . . . I said "no thanks" but god damn I wanted to say "yes" on the inside. I think what makes it easy for me to keep away from it is the fact it's so fucking expensive down here. . . . . It's kind off a good thing I guess .
 
kcfaerydust - if u hav bipolar, u definitely shudnt b using amphetamines

im ADHD and i normally take dexamphetamine but atm im coming down off valium plus im on suboxone and my doctor doesnt want me on both subs and dexies.....so im relying on going to regular adult ADHD meetings where we discuss how to problem-solve and manage our condition with or without meds

i take plenty of fish oil with omega 3, 6 and 9, plus l-tyrosine, deer velvet and B vitamin complex
plus i do as much reading as i can to try and build up my concentration span

u cud also look into the 'doray (sp?) method', which is a new therapy being used on ppl with AD(H)D to help them learn naturally how to concentrate, calm down, etc

and there r less addictive meds out there if u want a quick fix too - some use wellbutrin, nortrptyline, clonidine, strattera, etc
they all hav side effects but ironically often not as bad as the side effects of some of the stimulants
i can only handle amphetamines - ritalin and other methylphenidate-based drugs make me sick

if u cant take these drugs without abusing them u r better not to take them at all

my mum has always dealt out my dexies but i dont watch where she hides them....cos methamphetamine addiction so ruined me i dont want to become anymore fried if i can help it

8ftsativa - tragically many parents use meth
and not many of them make gd parents
trust me, ive seen it all wen it comes to 'friends' with kids and meth

one of my friends alannah, had a daughter who cud load a pipe at 2yrs old
we thought it was hilarious at the time 8(

btw mate - 8 foot sativa r an awesome band
my bro met them once at a bar after a gig and they had a joint and a beer with him, he said they were really down-to-earth (he was playing at the same gig as them)
u ever met them?
(sorry, off-subject 8()
 
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i know that i shouldnt be taking amphs. i shouldnt be taking drugs period. but im a drug user. ive experienced all aspects of drug use, all the way to having my life crumble around me. i just wanted to be able to discuss, listen, share and what not. dont get me wrong, i know you mean well in what youre saying, dw but came across as judgemental to me. i understand youve had your life shattered because of meth and it would only be natural to try to stop people. however, not everyone is stopping. there are many people still using and whether youre trying to quit or youre trying to deal with life on the drug, there should be a place for everyone to talk without judgement. im sorry, i dont mean to be bitchy. im just speaking my mind.
 
speed used to be my drug of choice
and for a while i had a real err... appreciation for ice.

speed was my introduction to the world of drugs, i had dabbled with weed, but i never really liked it. i don't like smoking anything at all.
plus i like feeling alert.
and you know how your first time with anything is.. it's love at first line.

unfortunately i was 15 and naive at the time, and had no idea how nasty the shit could be if you formed an addiction. i was only using tiny quantities, but not a day would go by that i didnt have at least 1 line.
i only really noticed how much of a hold it had on me about a year into it, when for 3 days i didnt have any. and couldnt get any. i was not a happy camper at all. it was all i could think about. i didnt feel normal at all.

wound up cutting phets out of my life altogether at age 17 and took up some clean living for a while. i'd see people tapping their legs on the train.. or someone would mention speed and something lit up inside. i still wanted it bad.

eventually that all passed.

at 18, i met and fell in love with pills. so i was getting a bit of a speed fix there half the time.

i still use the stuff, except i enjoy it a lot more now.
i find im using higher doses, but only using once or twice a month. provided its available
i never want to find myself addicted to something again. fuckin hated myself for letting that happen. especially with a brother heavily addicted to heroin and seeing what that did to my mum.

i had dabbled in ice a few times from age 18 - 24. but then i found a good steady supply of shard.
i felt the addiction coming back. then all it took was 5 days of being awake on shard to make me realise what a nasty horrible drug it was.
the hallucinations i had were so dark, and they were ominous. shadow people in the closet.
uncomfortable headspace. feeling miserable. just wanting sleep.

as horrible as it was. i'm thankful i did that. because ever since i never use more than a half of shard in a night, and would be lucky to use it once every few months. havent touched it since december 08 now.


as long as you realise how high the addiction potential is for this awesome feeling stuff...
and just how bad some of the negative side effects can be with regular abuse.

its now been 10 years since i first used speed...
and i just want to thank buddha, allah, god or whoever... that my lady friend's dad is a dentist who loves me and gives me free dental work.
and that i have more self control than i used to.

on that note. i'm going to go have another line.
 
bah...fuck me. I should of stopped the stims after work and just relaxed. But nope, I had to go out, had to do more.....I am not looking forward to this comedown. I CANT use my antipsychotics.....I must save them for GF's come down's. I cant take a big dose of benzo's, i gotta work at 8am, and phenazepam's half life is too long....I get to ride out it straight up. Fun....I made a fucking dumb choice tonight. I could mask it I guess...but no...cause I dont my lover to have to feel nasty come downs. So my last 3 AP's are untouchable.

Well I guess its not my worst comedown ever....that was on my first deployment. age 18.5 or so. (facts are vague to protect my ID) so we get jacked up on dexedrine and the yanks give us Desoxyn...."routine presence patrol" with multinational UN force.

We get attacked. A troop gets hurt...bad....some shrap and rounds in the gut. We ask for a medical helo. Denied because the LZ was hot (enemy fire...whatever country was providing med helo's diddnt wanna risk em)

this guy was a hell of a nice guy...always joking, giving us the candy from his rations, ect. So he is bleeding to death, internally. Helo wont come until we can confirm the area is no longer hot.....the thing was, its 4 guys, in a very hostile slum in the 3rd world....oh and peace keeping ROE's= we cant shoot unless they active attacking us. So they run around and dig in, not shooting, meaning we cant do shit....another country says it has a T-72 and a BTR-80 coming for us....3 or 4 hours. Our wounded man now accepts he will die. He resigns him self to it.

the mix of fear (surronded by hostiles) anger (send a fucking helo you dipshits) and sorrow (this wonderful young man dying in the streets of nowhere) are overwhelming. We have no med supplies, save a few dressings, morphine syrettes and dexedrine. We offer to cut his suffering short with the sryettes, he declines. We take the rest of our dexies. (150mg)

We decide to try one semi suicidal attack on the insurgents, ROE's and tactical doctrine be damned. (think a la verdun....but on a 1/200,000 scale)...just run at them....we fail, and all aquire minor injuries. We go back to our comrade. He wrote some MSN addies and phone #'s down....he wanted us to tell his friends/fam what happened, not some PR officer. I accept.

the whole time, he keeps telling us to cheer up! he keeps making jokes and stuff....he then offers something. To man an FN MAG (M241) so we can try to escape....I told him, 4 went out, either 4 return, or 0 return....We where not going to leave him to die alone, in some far off land.

he dies maybe 45mins later in my arms....I'm doing anything I can to stay composed. Soon there after....the 3rd country t-72 and BTR-80 arrive. The wisk us and his body back to a fire base.

instead of rest? instead of a shower? they gave us fresh magazines and more dexedrine, and send us out to deal with the insurgents who caused this....this time with an armoured coy and heavy inf platoon in support....so back we go, back to blood and guts and death.

We return again. Its been maybe 36 hours now, up on amps, having seen my first real war death....I ask for a single sleeping pill....denied, addictive, and they make you less capable.

I go on MSN, and tell his GF what happened, as per his request. On webcam, so she can see his blood soaked into my fatigues.

after that, the amphetamines wear off. I spend god knows how long fucking hours crying under my blankets. The trauma of my friends slow, violent death in my arms, combined with massive amp comedown...is my worst memory ever.

I remember at some point a Major and two MP's come and kick me, tell me to "unfuck" myself, get kitted up, and get ready to go "outside the wire" again....at that point, I wasnt the clean cut, blue beret wearing Canadian peacekeeper anymore. I had that blank stare on my face...later that week, I fired my weapon, and watched the target also slowly die. Not allowed to speed it up, and no med supplies to help.....that made for another *amazing* dexedrine comedown.

when I returned, I went back to finish my last HS credits and couldnt do it.....a teacher said something like "do you know the COSEQUENCES of handing an essay in late" I asked her if it would lead to my friend dying in my arms, or a mass grave of women....she had nothing to say. I then quit.

so yeah, this come down isnt too bad in retrospect, compared to them comedowns.

mods: if this is too journally, PLEASE COPY/PASTE and PM it to me before deleting. Its the first time Ive wrote it out, and its right from the heart, so pls dont make it just disappear.

the blank numb expression I mean is like this
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that's a horrible fucking comedown :(. geez. and i thought some of mine sucked...

js-- excuse my ignorance but methamphetemine and it's many slang terms that have such great regional variation never cease to confuse me-- what's the difference between "ice" and "shard" for you?
 
^I think that's what ice is technically.

What annoys me so much about meth terms is that besides there being so many--tina, crank, tweak, glass, shards, ice, speed, candy, crystal, twack and I could probably come up ten more-- I feel like they are used intermittenly? I used to get my shit from this guy who got it from his brother (was too stupid to comprehend a finders fee or cutting the product) and I definitely heard him call the same stuff "ice" and "tweak." Granted he was a stupid dealer and didn't use but even the long term users I've known and much more experienced dealers seem to just get sick of one term and so they use another, I never know if they're referring to a different form or if they're just trying to make it interesting by switching up the names.... mabe this is just me? I don't know. :\
 
I never call meth 'ice.'
It is such a media term and I hate it.
I call it shards or pippa. Pippa is more a European affiliated slang word over here, Euro's (espec. Greeks) call it pippa/pip, and some of you may know I am German/Greek
 
Hey Claire isn't it funny how diff the slang terms can be for it even in the one area, I rarely hear it called shards, amongst my group of friends we have very specific and strange names for it that I'm sure noone apart from us would ever understand! Funny you say about the Greek term for it because amongst my friends we use an Italian slang word for it. I use 'bling' a lot (long story) or just puff but more often than not I don't even need a word, it's more like, 'you got anything for me...?' 8)
 
The most common term I've heard has varied a lot.... when I first started using everyone I knew just called it "tweak" and that's what I call it most commonly. There was one circle of friends I used with that just called it "shit" all the time, another that always referred to it as "crystal"... and many more.

I'd never heard shards until getting on bluelight though... I sort of like it as a term, I've used it a few times and people just look at me strangely haha.
 
I don't like tweak just because I associate 'tweakers' with being something really negative. Some of my friends call it 'crack' and I really hate that, because it's not crack!
 
The terminology varies so much from city to city in Aus, it's weird. When I was in brissie it was 'crystal', down in adelaide it's 'gear', melbourne 'shards', sydney people I know all call it 'shabs' and god knows what they call it in perth.

Ice is what the media call it, but nobody actually involved in the scene ever uses that term that I've heard, except jokingly.

Rangrz, dude, that's some pretty heavy shit. I'm sorry you had to go through it.
 
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