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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only - V.2: MERGED with amps quitting thread

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I managed 2 years, 8 months and 14 days.

Then it went down the fucking drain. The day before I was starting treatment for it ironically haha.

But that binge fucked me beyond what I thought it would. Never ever again. Well I said that how many years ago and I felt exactly back where i was almost 3 years ago. :\

Learning curve I hope. :( <3
 
^ That's some impressive time off! Hopefully all the things you learnt during your time off will make it a bit easier to stay off again this time <3

Sweet P - So happy to hear how well you've been doing! FiatFlux, you too.

I'm nearly 6 weeks off too now and I thought it'd be getting easier now, but I'm still craving badly everyday. I did quit everything this time though, drinking, opiates, everything and that's actually made it easier surprisingly, and more surprisingly I don't crave those things, just ice!!
 
^ It's awesome to hear you've managed nearly 6 weeks clean! The cravings can last a while. Mine are slowly getting better, but I do still have days when I'd kill for a bag of crystal, and if somebody freely offered me some I doubt I'd have the willpower to turn it down. To keep safe, I'm avoiding my old dealers and drug buddies, and I try to stay away from parts of the city where I know meth is abundant. :\
 
Good to hear you're clean Sweet P

I just got out of a sober-living home where i was for 2 1/2 months. Wow that was torture at first, but it slowly got better altho i knew i wasn't totally normal even after being sober

I decided to get back on adderall a few days ago, but i'm taking a small dose - enough to stay motivated/focused but not enough to get high. I don't absolutely need it, but life is still very hard without it (I have ADD)

As for all the other meds i was on, no more.. if i can't control myself while under the influence, then i have no business being on them -- besides almost ODing several times, according to those around me before i was taken to detox.. it's not good when people tell you i thought you were dead cause you were turning blue and barely had a pulse..and you're thinking well, i was trying to kill myself :\

Anyway i'm staying away from meth too. Not because it doesn't help me. But because seeking it puts me back in that drug circle i'd rather not associate with from now on. I've learned that i need to associate with positive people who will influence me in a good way

Peace :)
 
FiatFlux said:
just had 2 teeth in my mouth pulled, dentist looked unimpressed. at least they are up the back aye?
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Yeah, my rotting teeth are at the back of my mouth, and my receding gums are below my lower front teeth, so fortunately they can't really be seen when I'm talking to people. I haven't been to a dentist in over 5 years (terrible, I know) and I probably won't until the pain becomes unbearable. I imagine the dentist will be horrified when they look into my mouth! :\

Gormur said:
I decided to get back on adderall a few days ago, but i'm taking a small dose - enough to stay motivated/focused but not enough to get high. I don't absolutely need it, but life is still very hard without it (I have ADD)
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I haven't been diagnosed with ADD, but I think it's possible that I've developed ADD-like symptoms due to meth neurotoxicity. I take a small dose of dexamphetamine when I need to for the same reasons as you: to focus, stay motivated, get energy, and so on. I don't get high on it, but it helps me to function and do my daily activities. Glad to hear you're staying away from meth too. :)
 
footscrazy said:
^ That's some impressive time off! Hopefully all the things you learnt during your time off will make it a bit easier to stay off again this time <3
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I was still smoking speed, but was adamant about never having ice again. :\ Oh well. Im in treatment now, and it's going well so far.

Sweet P, I too have front bottom jaw receding gums from smoking ice. It's fucked :| :( Luckily I think I can save mine, and am in the process of doing so.
 
^ Unfortunately, from what I've heard, receding gums don't grow back. You'll probably need a gum graft if you want to repair them. Mine look pretty disgusting, as they've receded so much that the roots of my teeth are completely exposed. But like I said, people can't see it unless I actually pull down my lower lip and show them! :\
 
^ Yep gum graft is what I need. I've already had one, but it didn't work. So my orthodontist sent me to a different guy, and long story short... to save my gums, ive had to get bottom braces again, they removed a front tooth on my bottom jaw, are closing the gap and pushing my jaw back, so the gum graft will hold. One year of fucking braces; again, then the graft with 3 months aftercare.

... honestly, i never thought smoking ice all those years would do this, haha. Ignorance!
 
Just wanted to check in and say that on Sept 1st, i've been clean from meth for 5 years. so know that it can be done, and long term recovery is possible. it sucks and its hard, but it can be done. and it is so worthwhile in the end, and the middle i suppose, just not the beginning. :)
 
Do you just get the teeth fucked up ness doing meth by smoking it or can you get it any way you abuse it?
 
Sweet P said:
Well unfortunately I'm having to share somebody else's dexamphetamine script - the drug & alcohol service are still refusing to prescribe them to me. But at least it's better than nothing. I don't think I'd mind appearing on the documentary. My whole family and all my friends know I'm an addict, I've got methamphetamine-related tattoos across my arms, and I still have that "tweaker" look, so I'm sure most people can already figure me out. I also don't really believe in having regrets. The documentary is designed to warn others about the dangers of meth and how it can ruin people's lives, so I'd be happy to share my story if it can help others. :)
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What is this documentary? Is it out yet ?
 
Georgie25 said:
Do you just get the teeth fucked up ness doing meth by smoking it or can you get it any way you abuse it?
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Smoking meth seems to cause the most damage to your teeth, but I think it's possible to cause similar damage with other ROA's due to lack of dental hygiene, poor diet, and so on, that usually goes along with chronic meth addictions. I know when I was using meth heavily, brushing my teeth and eating healthy food were the last things on my mind. I'd go for weeks without brushing, and when I did feel like eating and drinking (which wasn't often), I tended to have only junk food. :\

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What is this documentary? Is it out yet ?
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It's no longer happening, sadly.
 
Aw sorry to hear about the doc not happening..this is a really good doc on meth in the U.S if you're interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI6b31f0yT0

And yeah I hear you on the poor dental hygiene. When I was in active heroin addiction brushing my teeth, changing my clothes, or taking showers wasn't even something that crossed my mind. I'd tell myself when i was sick id do it when i got high, then i got high and said fuck it. =/
 
^ Yeah, I watched an Australian documentary on TV called "Ice Age" which was pretty interesting, and it's a good eye-opener to those who haven't experienced the hardcore meth scene. Here's a link to a sample of the documentary on Youtube. Be warned, this can be very triggering! It has pretty graphic scenes of IV meth use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9zXLrKcHXI
 
Yeah I seen that one too, pretty crazy! Was surpised how much money they get with their welfare i guess it was every couple weeks or so then spend it all on ice binge then crash until their next money comes in.
 
^ Yep, I get around $250 (NZ dollars) a week on my welfare, but here in New Zealand meth is expensive, and that money isn't nearly enough to fund a heavy addiction, like the one I had. I was having to resort to other ways to earn money and score my fix. Fortunately those days are now behind me. :\
 
Fuck! The whole universe is against me! I was having such a good day, until I unexpectedly ran into an old associate while I was in the city. He was absolutely fried on meth, kept hassling me and wouldn't leave me alone. Now I'm totally triggered... I feel like I'm back at square one with my cravings. All I wanna do now is go out and score a bag. :(
 
Sweet P said:
Fuck! The whole universe is against me! I was having such a good day, until I unexpectedly ran into an old associate while I was in the city. He was absolutely fried on meth, kept hassling me and wouldn't leave me alone. Now I'm totally triggered... I feel like I'm back at square one with my cravings. All I wanna do now is go out and score a bag. :(
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don't do it. just think about some of your previous posts. don't you feel good being able to kick a habit many people cant? how long have u been sober now?
 
i get 60 10mg IR's...i usually plan on doing them once a week. like tonight i did 50 or 60mg's because i knew i had studying to do. i hope mine doesnt turn into an addition, and maybe leading me to meth and waht not.
 
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