messing with e-cigs dmt and other psychedelics

[atara]

Several people already died from 25I-NBOMe becasue they weren't carefull enough with dosing.

What is the bodycount currently? I lost count.....

Three. Luckily, this dosing method shouldn't have much chance of such severe overdoses unless the cartridge leaks.

Still, I wouldn't fill it more than 5 mg full. Vaping is pretty potent with 25i and it's not like you need to trip hard every day.

 

[Obsidius]

i was also wondering about that a while ago. that could be a real handy device for longer outdoortrips, where you cannot bring hightech vapemachines or glassware and its certainly convinient to have multiple ready mixed solutions at hand.

one of those http://www.provape.com/provari-variable-voltage-ecig-s/36.htm# give you the possibility of selecting the temperature yourself. just gotta find each substances vape-spot.

the question is, if the substance in question is soluble in the ecig carrier liquid propylene glycol? and as mentioned the doses you get out of an ecig puff probably limit you to NBOMes and maybe DOI,DOC & 5-MEO-DMT but you might suck a while for 2C-E or n,n-DMT. but maybe there is a way to mess with the carrier & coilsystem yourself to actually get way more than normal cig-puffs vaped.

EDIT: i actually just found a TEK over at the nexus to make an ecig that vapes regular DMT. aparently they found carrier solutions that can hold way enough DMT within only 3ml to be dense enough for ecig vaporization. not sure about linking cross sites, but just google "ecig vape dmt" and it should be the first hit. reading through a lot of technical stuff atm... looks interesting!

EDIT2: qouting "I don't think this type of device will ever be able to give 10+ mg in a single puff, no. It isn't the right tool for a huge one hit blast off." ... still 10mg / puff might be too less for a DMT oneshot but enough for many other things.

 

[Unholy Jim]

ya the bodycounts at 3 two teens and 21 year old there were however 7 non fatal cases of ODing on the substance but death and seizures r considered very rare i think its also heavily based on how ur wired

If i'm not mistaken it seems less deadly than MDMA? I know the sample group is smaller but still...

 

[Transform]

It's only been around for a year or two as general sale and I suspect there are FAR fewer people using it than MDMA. I think it's safe to say that per-user there have been far more deaths.


That doesn't mean it's inherently more dangerous as it seems that challenges with dosing are responsible for a lot of the problems with the NBOMes, but it certainly means that users need to show a lot of sense to avoid falling prey to these challenges.

 

[Unholy Jim]

It's only been around for a year or two as general sale and I suspect there are FAR fewer people using it than MDMA. I think it's safe to say that per-user there have been far more deaths.


That doesn't mean it's inherently more dangerous as it seems that challenges with dosing are responsible for a lot of the problems with the NBOMes, but it certainly means that users need to show a lot of sense to avoid falling prey to these challenges.

Yes of course, I have no doubt that when we know more about these substances we will see significantly fewer fatalities. I'd really like to know what the LD50 is for these substances