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Mescaline / San Pedro Cactus - 2nd Time - Smooth and Euphoric

bluedolphin

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My first San Pedro trip, which was about 8 months ago, was worthwhile, but left me with no desire to repeat the experience any time soon. There were three things that I didn't like about the experience:

1) The restless energy. My first trip left me feeling like I was on amphetamines (I dislike amphetamines), while at the same time feeling very lazy. 2C-I has a similar effect, but mescaline lasts twice as long. By the time the trip was done I felt quite drained.

2) The trip simply wasn't all that interesting. Sure the visuals were nice (faces morphing in wood grain, clouds turning into patterns, and a neon golden spirit that appeared next to me), and I felt a deep connection to nature, but I felt like mescaline lacked the depth and "truth" of indoles such as mushrooms or LSD.

3) San Pedro syrup was the worst thing I ever tasted, and I didn't look forward to tasting it again.

But, as fate would have it, I found myself tipping back a dose of San Pedro syrup along with two of my best friends, T and F. We thought it would be a good way to take advantage of an empty house only a few days before I would have to return to college. The syrup was left over from a batch made in August. It was not refrigerated... it was just kept in an empty water bottle. Apparently it did not lost any potency.

So around 2pm we each took about 2 fluid ounces of syrup on empty stomachs (keep in mind your 2 oz of syrup may be quite different in potency to mine). Each dose was about 16" to 18" of 3.5" thick cactus that was growing in a temperate climate. F and I both held our noses until we had chased the syrup with enough coke and salty crackers to make it bearable. T made the mistake of opening his nose before chasing his syrup, and he almost vomited it back up on the spot.

We spent the next 15 minutes complaining about the taste and saying stuff like "This better be a good trip!" I told them that many people consider San Pedro to be one of the smoothest and most impressive trips there is, but that I happened to be partial to mushrooms and LSD. They smoked a bowl, but I refrained from smoking for the time being, as I like to feel psychedelics come on without being clouded by pot. After that we sat down and played some guitar, but I gradually noticed my playing was getting worse and worse, and I was just getting confused.

30 minutes after ingestion I was already enjoying quite the body high! Last time I didn't remember feeling anything until 1h30 after drinking the syrup, therefore at this early point in the trip I assumed that I had taken quite a large dose and was in for a hard trip for the next 14 hours.

The mescaline was coming in waves for all of us. One minute we'd be incredibly high, and 10 minutes later we'd feel almost sober. Eventually the peaks of the waves dominated and the sober points became rare. By 1h30 I was quite high and experiencing some moderate visuals, but I had also been struggling with nausea for the last half hour. I decided to vomit, so I made my way to the toilet and had the pleasure of tasting San Pedro syrup for the third time. I was fairly certain that most of the mescaline had been absorbed by this point, and even if it wasn't I was tripping hard enough anyway.

I came back outside the bathroom and F and T were watching COPS... always a favorite of mine and I found the show extra halarious. After puking I felt better.

One note about the restless energy I mentioned earlier... In my first trip this annoying effect lasted throughout the entire trip. This time, by the second hour it had smoothed down into a very nice body high, somewhat like a cross between 2C-I and mdma I suppose. Either way, I was very mellowed out, and there was a good bit of euphoria so we were all having a good time laughing at the TV.

I considered the idea that it might be a waste of mescaline to watch TV on the stuff, but then I decided I really didn't give a shit as long as I was happy.

The house was getting cold so we all went downstairs to put some wood in the furnace. F's dog Zeke, who normally annoys the hell out of me, came downstairs. Zeke picked up a piece of bark off the floor and held it in front of me. I reached for it and Zeke dodged me. Zeke and I ended up playing a game of keep away with that bit of bark for about 10 minutes, and during that time I gained a huge amount of respect for that animal's intelligence because that dog was able to trick me pretty well in the game. F was commenting on how sweet the visuals were and how he now "understood Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas", and T seemed to be having a good time as well.

Eventually we went upstairs and watched a couple hours of the Simpsons, which I thought was pure genius, and I understood the subtleties of the humor better than ever before. Of course, none of us were getting any less higher from the mescaline.

Actually the next 3 hours were pretty uneventful. We smoked a lot of herb (I was smoking now that the trip had kicked fully in and I was comfortable with the mescaline), which didn't seem to synergize with the mescaline in terms of the visuals or body high (I didn't feel stoned after smoking) but the mental effects of the mescaline became stronger and more interesting. I also spent some time working on telepathic communication and communication through facial expressions with the dog Zeke, which seemed to actually work.

Around 9pm my girlfriend, F's girlfriend, and two other friends came over to hang out. By this point I was still pretty high but I could tell my trip was starting to wind down. At first it seemed awkward to talk to my girlfriend, but then I remembered we've been together for 3 years and tripped together lots of times, so I shouldn't be shy just because I'm on a drug.

Writing about comedowns is pretty boring... so I'll make it quick. We made some mac & cheese and it was dank. We smoked lots of herb and enjoyed that. I stayed up until about 3am getting baked and watching stupid stuff on TV, and then fell asleep with no problem, 13 hours after drinking the San Pedro syrup. I woke up the next morning after about 6 hours of sleep and felt relatively well rested and not strung out at all.

Some of you might notice that I didn't really describe the visuals, so I'll take a quick stab at that. Wood grains would flow, the room would breath, things would appear at a different angle than they were, and edges were softened. Walls changed color a bit and there were some light patterns on them. If I stared at something complex it would change form and become even more complex. Overall I think I had more visuals the first time, but I had a much smoother and more enjoyable body buzz and euphoria this second time.

So, I enjoyed the effects of the cactus much better this second time around, and look forward to trying it again once its warm outside.

peace-
bluedolphin
 
I always found the liquid to be a "light" trip and painful at that. Granted some people swear by it, but drying it to is just much easyer and more effective if done correctly. I can only handle Perdo once or twice a year, but it is always dried, high quality and not vendor bought. I guess I'm lucky in that respect. But keep pluging away at it. It took me about 4 trys to really get anything out of Pedro when I did it was well worth it. Peace, Spinal

P.S. Cops, D'oh8)
 
this is a nice report, i liked reading about the beginning before you were smoking.... and that the mescaline turned out pleasurable. makes me tempted to try it again, but at least relieved that the cactus can bring such enjoyment, as well as respect for that dog. =)
 
bluedolphin said:
Eventually we went upstairs and watched a couple hours of the Simpsons, which I thought was pure genius, and I understood the subtleties of the humor better than ever before.

HELL YES, I did this on acid, I love that you pick up the tiniest little things, and say it out loud to the response of "What the hell.....oh yeah, you're right!" :)

But salty crackers...yuck, to each their own :p Good work here though
 
Hey Spinal... I think next time I'll dry out the cactus flesh into "chips" or something, to avoid all the preparation for the syrup.

Let's say I use 16" of a cactus for syrup, how much would you eat of the dried flesh? I guess another way of putting this is: How much of the mescaline do you think is lost in the extraction process? I'm not after a balls-to-the-wall trip next time, but I would like it to be a little bit stronger.
 
Great report man, as always :)
I'm looking forward to a mescaline trip in the future, depending on what I can get my hands on, San Pedro or Peyote.
 
Hey

^__ It's hard to say how much cactus to use dried as opposed to syrup. It seems as though boiling takes quite a fair share out of chemicals out of the cactus. I've always ground it up into gelcaps in the past. 20 grams seemed to work well the last time I took it, and that was a strong trip for a strong cactus. So assuming cactus X it to be eaten soon and is of superior potency 10 - 15 grams should do quite nicely. I'm wondering if desicant drying might improve potency even more(I've tried a plate with a fan blowing over 24/7)? Peace, Spinal
 
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Hey bluedolphin, can you make a quick summary on how you prepared the cactus into syrup?

Do you think the simplest ( 3 hours of boiling the chips and then drinking the water and eating the chips) method would get me where It got you?
 
Thanks all!

PassMeTheVicks... here's what I've heard you can do buddy:

1. Eye out your dose. 12" long by 4" thick or 16" long by 3" thick. You never know exactly how much mescaline is gonna be in the cactus anyway. Nanook suggests you can dose accurately by volume and density of the cactus syrup you have in the end, but this is impossible for two reasons. First, there is no accurate way to say how "thick" your syrup is. Second, each cactus is of different potency. I believe the margin of error is significantly less if you just eyeball out an appropriately sized cutting to begin with. For your first experience, assuming the cactus isn't too scrawny, try a foot.

2. Cut your cutting into 4" lengths, and then slice these down the middle lengthwise. Now you can cut out the woody core in the middle (if its a young cactus it might not be that woody yet).

3. Chop the rest up, including spines and skin (its not worth the effort to remove them, imo), and toss it in a food processor. Only fill the food processor half way because the cactus gets very frothy.

4. Toss all your cactus froth in a big cooking pot. Also put in about 1/2 as much water as you have cactus froth. Add some citric acid (a Vitamin C tablet or squirt from a plastic lemon is fine). Turn the heat on "medium", but don't turn it up so high that you wouldn't want to stick your finger in it. Stir this around for about 20 minutes (you don't have to stir constantly).

5. Get a bucket, or another big pot. Also get an old shirt or some cheesecloth. Dump all your cactus froth mix into the shirt, and proceed the squeeze the greenish slimy water out of the shirt into the bucket.

6. When no more can be squeezed out, repeat steps (4) and (5) a few more times.

7. Now you've got a good amount of low-concentration San Pedro slimy water. You want syrup, so pour all this water into whatever size pot will hold it (the more surface area the better... so if you only have enough cactus water to fill a frying pan, use that). Proceed to simmer it down. Supposedly mescaline breaks down at 320* F. Unless you're in a rush I'd keep the temp significantly lower. Let it simmer down until you only have a couple fluid ounces of syrup per dose. Be careful not to let it burn once its simmered down most of the way.

Remember to hold your nose, and keep holding it until you've chased it well!
 
Cool beans BDolphin. So basically imma filter the cactus water into the bucket and then repeat that, in the end all the times you filtered add up and then simmer THAT down to a more viscuous matter.
 
^^^
You got it.

except I forgot one of the most important steps!

8. Have fun, keep a packet of sugar handy (and eat it if you start to feel shitty), and write a trip report when you're done. :)
 
It may warrant being added that they syrup really gains no more thickness when you are boiling it down, it doesn't revert to a tarlike substance. It's more of a heavy liquid like cough syrup. So be careful not to evaporate the whole thing:( One question for B.D. though, what color was your liquid? Peace, Spinal
 
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A Most Triumphant trip report, Blue Dolphin. I am a Hunter S. Thompson fanatic (RIP HST) plus an Aldous Huxley fan and I really want to try mescaline. I was wondering could you cool the liquid then put it in gel caps to avoid the bad taste? Keep up the nice reports man, peace.
 
You're right about that sugar packet business, man. Last time I boiled up a Pedro/Torch combo sugarry kool-aid mix saved my life!
 
wicked trip, pedro is hard to do, did it once and noticed nothing apart from when i brought it up with the nitrous. Gonna take around 25g dried ground cactus for my next experience. great report, shame i missed it
 
mescalin is my most favorite psychedelic of all time. But i have yet to find an easy way to down the shit. Once i figure that out, i'll be using it so much more. Mescaline to me personally, produces the deepest mental psychedelic experiences, coupled with the best visuals ever. Plus it was made by god and not man.
 
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