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Mescaline HCL and Psilocybin Mushrooms - combination.

yagecero

yagecero

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Has anyone tried this combination? I'm wondering what 350mg of mescaline HCL, followed by a dose of mushrooms a few hours into the experience, would be like.

More generally, how have people found combining phenethylamines with tryptamines?
 
I've used P. Torch and 4-AcO-DMT together. I prefer 4-AcO-DMT on its own. However, P. Torch with ayahuasca is one of the most enthralling and spiritually euphoric combinations I've ever tried. It can be a pain on the old gutty works taking two crudely extracted vomit inducing plant psychedelics together, but if you have mescaline HCl you could just plug it to reduce those issues while increasing potency and just worry more about the ayahuasca.

The cacti/ayahuasca combo is the only phenethylamine/tryptamine combo I've tried that really bowled me over with its synergy, but 2C-B with 4-ho-DPT is also notable (granted, it's rare to come by).
 
psood0nym said:
I've used P. Torch and 4-AcO-DMT together. I prefer 4-AcO-DMT on its own. However, P. Torch with ayahuasca is one of the most enthralling and spiritually euphoric combinations I've ever tried. It can be a pain on the old gutty works taking two crudely extracted vomit inducing plant psychedelics together, but if you have mescaline HCl you could just plug it to reduce those issues while increasing potency and just worry more about the ayahuasca.

The cacti/ayahuasca combo is the only phenethylamine/tryptamine combo I've tried that really bowled me over with its synergy, but 2C-B with 4-ho-DPT is also notable (granted, it's rare to come by).
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i would love to try ayahuasca, youre so lucky.. i just bought a book today that mentions it.
 
Only time I did these together I also was on LSD a few roxies and some dank weed. I was completely out of this world in la la land where everything just melted together and started dancing...hard to explain but it was awesome!
 
I've only tried cactus and LSD together. It worked pretty well. It was simply like having two trips happen simultaneously. At times they merged together into a brilliant synthesis. To be honest, I think the character of psilocybin would be too at odds with mescaline, but I have heard of people having success with that combination.
 
sekio said:
There's an Erowid trip report you may have already read.

Generally, most people I have spoken to prefer keeping their psychedelics 'seperate'.
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Yeah, generally, I'm in the group that prefers to keep their psychedelics separate. The effects of mescaline and psilocybin are so different, I've always thought that they wouldn't get along too well together. However, I was wondering if anyone had had mushrooms on the tail end of a mescaline experience and, if so, whether they could share their experiences.

I ask because while I assume they wouldn't be so synergistic, perhaps my assumptions are incorrect and someone has had a glowing experience. If this were the case, perhaps I'd reconsider.

Anyway, I'm digging the discussion. Surely there are more PD frequenters that have combined phenethylamines with tryptamines.

psood0nym said:
I've used P. Torch and 4-AcO-DMT together. I prefer 4-AcO-DMT on its own. However, P. Torch with ayahuasca is one of the most enthralling and spiritually euphoric combinations I've ever tried. It can be a pain on the old gutty works taking two crudely extracted vomit inducing plant psychedelics together, but if you have mescaline HCl you could just plug it to reduce those issues while increasing potency and just worry more about the ayahuasca.

The cacti/ayahuasca combo is the only phenethylamine/tryptamine combo I've tried that really bowled me over with its synergy, but 2C-B with 4-ho-DPT is also notable (granted, it's rare to come by).
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Have we got a time-frame for your E. peruvianus and 4-AcO-DMT experience?
 
I believe there's a significant cross-tolerance. If you take mushrooms or LSD more than about three hours after taking mescaline, their strength will be drastically reduced.
 
About the phens and tryps combo:

I have tried aMT with 2CE and more recently I tried 20mg 4homipt and 20mg 2c-e. Good times both !
 
I've mixed mushrooms and mescaline many times and always had a wonderful time. Better off taking the mescaline first and letting it kick in for an hour or two.

I havn't noticed any cross-tolerance between the two.
 
yagecero said:
Have we got a time-frame for your E. peruvianus and 4-AcO-DMT experience?
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I waited until it was clear any nausea from the cactus was over with and the experience had plateaued before the 4-AcO-DMT, which I injected intramuscularly. I personally find that the more different two substances are, within limits of course, the more likely they are to make good combos. This id why I usually choose to combine 5-HT psyches with whole other drug classes (usually dissociatives or empathogens) rather than with other 5-HT psychedelics. Both aMT and mescaline have more of a slow rolling empathegen-like quality than other psychedelics, which I've found makes them better candidates for combos with harder grooved psychedelics because it seems like they gently (or not so gently) adjust the trajectory of "take off" in a positive direction. I've used aMT much more extensively in this regard, however, because it's much more predictable than cacti.
 
How do you think 4-aco compares to mushrooms psood? First time I tried 4aco I was sat calmly thinking it would take an hour or two to comeon like mushrooms and within about 10 minutes I was peaking! Nice drug tho - not quite as nice physically as mushies tho perhaps.
 
^It's difficult to say. More of my earlier psychedelic experiences were with mushrooms and my latter with 4-AcO-DMT. Using either orally, I start tripping within 15 - 30 minutes -- though reports I've read indicate a wide range of onset and duration times of 4-AcO between individuals. Qualitatively there is enough variational overlap within my mushroom and oral 4-AcO trips to say they're indistinguishable (what really sets them apart for me is the longer duration of 4-AcO orally). However, my oral doses of 4-AcO are limited. Usually I inject it, simply because I can and because that ROA results in greater experiential novelty compared to similar psilocin-ish experiences I've had before (can't inject mushrooms). My whole goal with these drugs is simply to experience the greatest range of intriguingly novel experiences possible.
 
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I do not combine psychedelics very often anymore, but when I was younger I combined mushrooms with cactus.
I brewed the Peruvian torch myself into an infusion and then ate the mushrooms (probably two grams or so, don't remember) probably three or four hours in...

Highly profound and spiritual synergy, very healing and ancient feeling...they seemed to work together in guiding my conscious understanding through the halls of infinity, pointing put the necessary lessons and wisdoms therein. There was a pronounced lucidity when I was out of body (or lost in trance to the degree of having no conscious reference to what a body was, take your semantical pick)while peaking, a sort of calm and safe feeling exploration of reality. Though I remember the room becoming a landscape when the mushrooms came on, the carpet became a desert with legends and profound forms amidst the expanse...that part was pretty overwhelming and not the most lucid ha ha
 
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