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mescaline - First time w/ cacti tea, what to expect?

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My friend who lives in an area where it isn't unlawful to participate in the brewing & consumption of psychoactive cacti recently spoke to me about flying in & dosing on some cacti tea, particularly a batch made from 1ft of t. bridgesii & 1ft of t. peruvianus (2ft per dose).

I've always been pretty interested in psychedellics so i took the offer of course ;)
Each will have a dose prepared from 2ft cacti, consumed over a 30-45 minute period.
having experienced many psychedelics & hallucinogens over the years i've found myself to be quite a hardhead when it comes to visuals.
I may not consume my entire dose for my first time with mescaline if i find it's too much, but what i'm shooting for is a breakthrough visual trip, which i've never been able to achieve even with lsd, mushrooms, 2C's or any combo i've tried.
What should i expect from mescaline visual, mentally, & bodyload wise from such a large dose?
Also, there will be an experienced shaman to guide us through our trips.
 
Actually I found the opposite with mescaline regarding visuals and while I have had stunning visuals with LSD and mushrooms (among many other psychedelics), mescaline simply was not visual for me open-eyed even up to 450 mg of the HCl salt (the most potent salt). However closed-eyed I found it to be extremely visionary.
It is a bit hard to describe the visions, but they felt very spiritually deep and important and healing. Mushrooms can be visionary but this was even stronger yet more gentle and forgiving.

My mescaline was synthetic though which might be substantially different from cacti. I have never been able to get intense effect from cacti, especially since I found it tricky to reduce the slime that was yielded from concocting my cactus powder.

And yeah you can't go slowly enough drinking the stuff. You could add a little time to your original planning.

I thought that there was a considerable body-load that grew more intense over the hours. It was a tension that could also turn into a headache easily, and it was a little comparable to LSD body-load.

I think for the rest maybe you should let yourself be guided by the shaman. :)
 
I found every time I took cacti teas that the visuals were very subtle and had a natural feeling to them. CEV's were more story oriented and dream-like than fractals and colours of LSD.

When I took 2ft of cacti (each) with my partner we spent hours doing shadow puppets and thinking we were amazing and hilarious. It was very chilled out and refreshing, compared to the 'tripped out' and adventurous feeling from shrooms and LSD.
 
judging from the trip reports i've read & the input i'm getting here it sounds like 2ft is a good first dose =)
i'm getting the vibe that mesc is alot more chill & less chaotic mentally than some other psychedellics i've had more experience with.
i havn't seen much about the combination of the 2 (peruvian torch & achuma) species i'm combining.
I know achuma is the most reliable & has a different feel than torch which is why i'm mixing, broader range of alkaloids & possible synergy between some Of them. that & if my torch isn't very potent theres the achuma to back it up =)
Hopefully i get a deep insightful trip & learn something from cacti. synthetics seem to lack that quality for me.
I'm hoping for an erowid-worthy trip =P
 
How did you go?

Most people would consider 2 feet a strong dose. The one time I took that much, and then went out to some massive rolling sand dunes hoping to have some kind of spirit journey... nothing happened. At all. I was extremely disappointed.
 
The one time I took cactus tea (2.5 ft San Pedro). It wasnt too visual and the head space was incredibly cloudy. The body high was very clean and enjoyable though. Had a good time but I wouldn't call it a productive trip from an introspection stand point. I seem to be hard headed to phens though so YMMV.
 
What I would warn you about is the foul foul foul taste of cactus tea. It's by far the worst I have ever tasted. It's so incredibly yucky. It takes very long to reach a plateau - compared to almost any other psychedelic I've tried, up to 3 hours even, at least in my experience. Not the same with mesc salts, btw, at least not for me.

If you're going to be consuming it with a proper shaman, then I'd suggest to let yourself be guided by him or her. If they're trustworthy, they'll know what they're doing. I did find mescaline very visual and incredibly enough, I had very aztec-like visuals in everything. Very beautiful and very different from other classic psychedelics as mushrooms and lsd.
 
I'm a bit wary of how you casually say "cactus tea will be consumed...". Consuming cactus tea is akin to medieval torture. After the first sip - even before the first sip, just bringing the foul smelling shit to your nose will cause you to retch. Your first taste will make you gip it back up into the glass, then you have to try and drink stuff you have already gipped back up.

If you do manage to ingest enough to trip on, it will take an age to come on - 3-4 hours and then it all depends how the nausea affects you. For me taking it orally meant I was feeling nauseous and vomiting for pretty much the entire trip. When you take it by squirting it up your arse there's zero nausea and it's a beatiful, gentle, not wildly, psychedelic trip. Beautiful bodyhigh and great for listening to music. Emphasises colours in blue and green spectrum so being out in nature is great.
 
I found that having a bottle of water while your drinking the tea makes it much easier to get down. I take a gulp of tea, then a big gulp of water and it makes it so i can just swallow the whole thing in one quick gulp without letting it swish around my mouth and tasting too much of it.
 
I've had some of the best open-eyed visuals of any psychedelic from eating san pedro cactus. Haven't done it in a while, but back in the day I would boil and reduce 3 or 4 feet of cactus down to a sludge and drink it. The hallucinations, particularly when boosted with cannabis, were unreal. I'd get my friends faces turning into the face of whatever music artist we were listening to (in one particular instance, my friend turned into a blue Jimi Hendrix and his face began floating toward me), the whole room flashing green and pink like a strobe light, cartoon characters dancing on the walls, the walls themselves dancing off their corners, everything around flowing and gyrating in rhythm. Never quite got 'transported' to a whole new sensorium DMT-breakthrough-style, but came quite close indeed. All in pure euphoria, no anxiety associated. So, yeah, anything is possible with mescaline. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't taken enough, had weak cactus, or just has a different kind of response than I have. The big problem with cactus is how time-consuming it is. Took me 4-5 hours to boil down the tea, then a good 3-4 hours to start really tripping. Then the next day I'd feel great, but I never wanted to do anything. You gotta have a whole weekend free at least. Also, my friends could never stomach as much tea as I could, so I'd always be tripping harder than them.

Have fun.
 
got to say im a bit jealous for you. quality cactus, a shaman guide... should be a nice experience with or without visuals
 
Gentle does not equal non-psychedelic, imo. I also find mescaline very gentle, but still a serious psychedelic. It's a very good combination actually, gentleness and proper psychedelia. I don't have nearly as much experience with mescaline as I do with mushrooms or acid, but I do rank mescaline very highly. Great great stuff.
 
Yeah I agree it's wondrous stuff - just not as psychedelic as oral DMT, mushrooms or even LSD. If I was recomending a starting psychedelic to anyone it would be mescaline because it's the least likely to overwhelm anyone.
 
I find the best way of drinking the tea is to boil the stuff down until you have about one cup each, then separating that cup into three or four cups, diluting it with lemonade (lemonade with at least 5% lemon juice like Lift), and then sculling a cup of that every 10min. Have Tums on hand too, I have found these really help to settle the stomach. Enjoy! mescaline is my favourite psych
 
Reverend Random said:
What I would warn you about is the foul foul foul taste of cactus tea. It's by far the worst I have ever tasted. It's so incredibly yucky.
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Ismene said:
I'm a bit wary of how you casually say "cactus tea will be consumed...". Consuming cactus tea is akin to medieval torture. After the first sip - even before the first sip, just bringing the foul smelling shit to your nose will cause you to retch. Your first taste will make you gip it back up into the glass, then you have to try and drink stuff you have already gipped back up.
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I have to agree with these two Gents. Unless you have an iron stomach,no sense of smell/taste,or you`re used to eating road kill/feces/vomit you WILL find this brew to be revolting.

When I was 19 I bought 2 feet worth,cut it up and tossed it into a pot of boiling water for 6 hours. Then I strained the goo,boiled the "tea" down to something more manageable,let it cool then tried to take a sip. The MOMENT the cactus tea hit my lips and tongue I spat it back out. Then I gagged for a few minutes and tried to figure out a way to get it down minus the taste. Long story short I ended up wasting most of it.

Years later when I was 27 I gave it another go by drying,grinding and stuffing the powder into 99(yes 99!) gel caps and eating them over a few hours. I stayed up all night having one of the best trips of my life. The whole thing was great.
I`d like to skip eating 99 gel caps next time though.

blazR said:
but how did it go.......
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So? It`s been a few weeks. How did it go?
 
change-jug said:
Years later when I was 27 I gave it another go by drying,grinding and stuffing the powder into 99(yes 99!) gel caps and eating them over a few hours. I stayed up all night having one of the best trips of my life. The whole thing was great.
I`d like to skip eating 99 gel caps next time though.
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Jeez, you must have a gut made of cast iron. Have you ever dropped dried san pedro into water and seen how it expands to 5 or 6 times it's original size and gives off all that black shit? If you can handle that happening in your stomach then you're a better man than I!
 
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