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mesc double dose exp?

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well, my girlfriend is down with tripping with me (it would be her first time) and I was thinking about doing a double dose and giving her a single, I feel like I can't fully let go on mesc, and I'm thinking doubling up would do it. So, anyone do a double dose of pure/synthetic mesc? Are the effects just compounded?
 
Where did you get this "pure/synthetic" mesc from? Because the chances of it being synthetic mescaline are nil. It'll be some research chemical.

Mescaline, when drinking cactus or when you've performed an a/b extraction, is very forgiving and gentle even at very high doses. But that might not apply to the research chemical you've got.
 
WTF is a single vs double dose supposed to be? It's not like there's some standard amount that people take, or would double, psychs don't work that way....

Anyway, I'd recommend if you're giving her a ++ dose, you might as well stay on that level (even if you take more). I mean, whatever you think you can handle, man.
 
doesnt matter where I got it, this is the same stuff I've been getting, and I really suppose it COULD be anything, but I trust who i go through for my own reasons. And they come in vials, 1 vial= 1 "dose"
EDIT: it also runs the gambit as far as identifying as mescaline, the trip is like mescaline reports...
also, i was talking to my friend and he said it was extracted in everclear, i tried to find some extraction methods but I didnt come up with much... it's just a clear liquid that tastes like alcohol
 
In that case, you could let the alcohol evaporate and weigh the drug that's left over to get an idea of dosage, or I guess if you want to stick to the premeasured doses you could try two before hand to make sure it's a good dose, but mescaline is some gentle stuff so it may not be a problem to just double up like you plan (you should assume of course a non-linear dosage response curve, with psychs double the dose can equal more than double the intensity, even with the really forgiving ones).
 
No reason not to trust the guy - he probably doesn't know anything about mescaline either. Synthetic mescaline is so rare that you're better off assuming it doesn't exist rather than thinking you've found the one guy in the western world selling it for a buck-fifty at the back of K-mart ;)

But if you're enjoying it then that's all the matters - If it's a phenathylamine RC it'll feel similar to mescaline in some respects but I just wouldn't be so relaxed about doubling the dose - a lot of those RC's have pretty steep dose curves.
 
How big is one of those vials? Mescaline is active in the range of hundreds of milligrams, which is quite a bit of material. It will require a minimum amount of liquid to dissolve an active dose. If the vial is as small as some that liquid acid comes in, I doubt it could even contain a threshold dose of mesc. And if it isn't mesc you should be careful to increase your dose as much as doubling it, like others have already stated.
 
Ismene said:
you're better off assuming it doesn't exist rather than thinking you've found the one guy in the western world selling it for a buck-fifty at the back of K-mart ;)
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HA, if only it were a buck fifty

donvliet said:
How big is one of those vials? Mescaline is active in the range of hundreds of milligrams, which is quite a bit of material. It will require a minimum amount of liquid to dissolve an active dose. If the vial is as small as some that liquid acid comes in, I doubt it could even contain a threshold dose of mesc. And if it isn't mesc you should be careful to increase your dose as much as doubling it, like others have already stated.
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Vials are about that size, filled about a third of the way up, I'd say diameter is about 1cm and about 1 inch long
 
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Your situation reminds me of this.

While bored at a party, my ears perked up a bit at the sound of a nearby conversation about psychoactive drugs. Wandering closer, I overheard a girl talking about an unpleasant experience she had recently had with a research chemical. I asked the first question that came to mind in such a situation:

"How much did you take?"

Her answer was, "One."

"One what?" I asked. "Do you know how many milligrams?"

To which she replied "Milligrams? I took one."

She didn't seem to understand that a unit of weight could be applied to the quantity of a drug, or that just because a substance came in pill or capsule form didn't mean she had no control over her dose.

-- An Erowid Volunteer
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If it's your girls first time tripping I would take as much as her not more. I would want to make sure that I was in a right enough mind to be able to help her if she has any issues. I do this whenever I'm tripping with someone for the first time. I don't want to be in the same place as them, I want to be their not exactly sober sitter.
 
Is it likely that you got a 2c-x. They are regularly sold to Mescaline to those aren't familiar with the amount of mescaline it takes to trip. Mesc is one of those substances that isn't even really a street drug considering its rarity and how much time and effort it takes to produce.
 
EDIT: okay, ive accepted it's probably not mescaline, but the person i got it from is very carefull about what he gets, he wouldnt want to pass off some RC for mesc, no point for him
 
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\/apor said:
Vials are about that size, filled about a third of the way up, I'd say diameter is about 1cm and about 1 inch long
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That amount of liquid isn't enough. The mesc alone, without the liquid, would occupy that entire volume (a third of a vial of those dimensions) for an active dose. So it's probably some RC, which isn't necessarily a problem. Some of them are related to mescaline and produce a somewhat similar trip. Just be careful with increasing your dose as the dose-response curve can be steep. If one vial wasn't strong enough, try one and a half.
 
okay, this has me wondering....if i evap the alcohol off on a plate and scrape up whats left could I get a better idea of what it is by the amount that's left behind?
 
\/apor said:
okay, this has me wondering....if i evap the alcohol off on a plate and scrape up whats left could I get a better idea of what it is by the amount that's left behind?
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You won't get any real identification this way, but you could rule out some of them that require large doses, like mescaline. To put things into context, how strong a trip does one of those vials produce?
 
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\/apor said:
okay, this has me wondering....if i evap the alcohol off on a plate and scrape up whats left could I get a better idea of what it is by the amount that's left behind?
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I wouldn't waste your time on this. Just increment your dose very slowly (no more than a quarter of a vial at a time). 2C compounds have a very steep response curve, so even a 25% increase can produce a significantly stronger trip.

Also, don't buy any more drugs from this guy. He obviously has no idea what the hell he's doing.
 
well, the first time I took it it was very profound, i could still function while i was peaking though. This last time I felt like i could shut off the spiritual side and just laid back and floated through space, there's patterns and things grow and shrink, it sounds similar to a mescaline trip especially the whole "wave" aspect of the trip
 
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Also, don't buy any more drugs from this guy. He obviously has no idea what the hell he's doing.
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I'm gunna talk to him and ask A:if he is trying to pass off a 2c-x as mescaline (which, i dont think he would, seeing as he first told me about his mesc trip before i was ever into psychs) and B: if he knows exactly what he's getting
 
How long did it take to come on? If you're very, very lucky it will be DOM which is almost as nice as mescaline but it takes 3-4 hours to come on.

But you want to be careful about doubling the dose of DOM - there's a steep response curve.
 
about 3 hours, the person I got it from said he doubled his dose and had more mindfuck with a little longer duration, it lasts about 10 hours, with lasting after effects
 
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