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mephedrone vs mdma

Well I finally gave in ordered a gram of it. Mainly due to it being on sale and the fact tht I can not get mdma where I am at at the moment.

Hmmm, anyone else have any experinces on Meph?
 
I agree with Bsiren. I'm feeling a bit lazy, but i figured my post from another thread would do the trick... :P

While there isn't much official toxicology data on mephedrone i wouldn't recommend taking large amounts of either at the same time for sure. I've used MDMA first, then mephedrone and in reverse order also. So far it seems that doing the MDMA/rolls first, then doing the mephedrone afterwards gives the best effects, but we have only done 3 trials so far.

I don't understand why people would think mephedrone would be a substitute for MDMA. But that is just my experience. Seems like a related, but completely different effect. At least in terms of mental/emotional/empathogenic qualities i would say the two are easy to separate. Mephedrone is fun and grrrrreat for sensual stuff like massage and sex, but it doesn't have the emotional opening qualities that MDMA does. That's the general consensus amongst friends and I.

Mephedrone is more party, less deep verbal communication and MDMA is more emotionally therapeutic/more deep verbal communication, less party. Although i've found that combined with cannabis that mephedrone is more MDMA-like. Now that's a great combo.

I've never done more than about 400 mg of 4-MMC in one sitting though either and i do eat very well so that my body is well supported for a night and then some of hard partying. A few friends and i have been doing really good by starting with 120-150mg insufflated and then boosts of around 40-50mg every 2.5 hours or so.

On average when i take MDMA i try to stay between 120-150mg combination oral ingestion and insufflation ( think 80/40-80/70 split) to start with a possible booster of another 40-60mg around 45-60 minutes in.

Try both of them out and see what you like best. Although be forewarned that, for some people, either MDMA and/or mephedrone can be quite fiendish.
There's more about mephedrone side effects and i recommend reading up more on it. :)
 
There have been some pretty severe consequences from Mephedrone usage.. I personally never touched the stuff but there is an entire "mephedrone recovery" thread in Advanced Drug Discussion... real nasty vasoconstriction with that drug - including purple extremities. No thank you.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
There have been some pretty severe consequences from Mephedrone usage.. I personally never touched the stuff but there is an entire "mephedrone recovery" thread in Advanced Drug Discussion... real nasty vasoconstriction with that drug - including purple extremities. No thank you.
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Brutal. Its cemented now ill never try it, sounds like tweek tho. Ewww.
 
That's a pretty bad binge but how often were you doing it? Keep in Meph works for a good 2 hours and then you crash unless you redose...
 
I've had some real nasty vasoconstriction from meph, numb blotchy purple arms. Not good.
 
Several doses, total consumption for the night was greater than 1g but less than 2g (which sounds like an awful lot, but is actually fairly typical for heavy meph users, of which I was unfortunately one). That was the first time. On subsequent occasions I've experienced vasoconstriction from a single dose (~150mg), but on the other hand I've gone through a similar, excessive amount as above with no adverse effects. It should also be a testament to the power of the compulsion to redose that I have chosen to do some cardio to attempt to combat the vasoconstriction so that I could continue to dose, rather than accepting that purple arms are probably a sign that one should call it a night.
 
Meph will probably give you a harder, stronger rush than you have experienced on MDMA. Whereas MDMA slowly lowers you into the water, meph will drop you straight in with a huge splash. Meph will also wear itself out quite a bit sooner, meaning that you'll be caught off-guard dancing to a tune and get very annoyed at the loudness and the people bashing into you. You'll end up a bit pissed off and find yourself constantly redosing once that happens.
 
JSPete said:
Meph will probably give you a harder, stronger rush than you have experienced on MDMA. Whereas MDMA slowly lowers you into the water, meph will drop you straight in with a huge splash. Meph will also wear itself out quite a bit sooner, meaning that you'll be caught off-guard dancing to a tune and get very annoyed at the loudness and the people bashing into you. You'll end up a bit pissed off and find yourself constantly redosing once that happens.
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hmmm, I might give it a try regardless then. Not at a huge club thoually drink before hand.
 
ive been doing meph for about a year now. decent meph is awesome, especially combined with booze. very rushy and stimulating, lights look amazing, massive urge to talk and dance. feel like superman gliding around the place, massive dinner plate eyes stairing around like laser beams. everything is amazing and content. jaw grinding and clenching. eye wobbles and flutters. i never go over half a G. very strong urge to re-dose all the time. and the side effects are not good...
 
ColtDan said:
ive been doing meph for about a year now. decent meph is awesome, especially combined with booze. very rushy and stimulating, lights look amazing, massive urge to talk and dance. feel like superman gliding around the place, massive dinner plate eyes stairing around like laser beams. everything is amazing and content. jaw grinding and clenching. eye wobbles and flutters. i never go over half a G. very strong urge to re-dose all the time. and the side effects are not good...
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Side effects?

I heard that prictiam counters all of the negative effects.
 
what is that? ive never heard of that before. or that it counters all negative effects.

vasoconstriction, depression, anxiety, come down, loss of motivation
 
ColtDan said:
what is that? ive never heard of that before. or that it counters all negative effects.

vasoconstriction, depression, anxiety, come down, loss of motivation
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Piracetam, its used to help with daily life look it up on wiki, its a good drg that helps increase your roll.
 
ColtDan do you get those side effects from small doses also? The only negative side effects i noted (which persist for a day or so) are the lack of appetite and some mild fatigue. The fatigue only happens sometimes and seems to have more to do with general eating and sleeping patterns than the mephedrone use. oh.. come down is not a side effect. ;)

Seems like i respond a bit differently. I find that for several days afterwards, similar to MDMA, i'm in a good mood mentally and very clear. MDMA makes me a bit more spacey the next day though.

magickalKat777 spot on. I definitely recommend people read up on it before doing it ... and pay attention to dosages. :) Those binges i've heard about are freakin insane. Even 20g in a day is so far out of control. I've never even had 20g of Vitamin C in a day, let alone some relatively unknown drug.
 
I find both are two different drugs and that mephedrone is given a real negative reputation due to many people never finding the substance in a relatively pure form. It's good for it's short duration allowing the user to sleep and that it can be dosed easy to provide whatever strength of hit the user wishes for. But MDMA provides a much cleaner, empathy based hit and so gives me a more enjoyable experience, but I would use mephedrone on a more regular basis.
 
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