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Mephedrone Megathread VIII: Hnnnng!

I cant undersatand how some people can still think its actually used as a plant food.
 
whoremoaning said:
Cause the media's telling them it is :|
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yeah all they're acomplishing by telling everyone "it's a plantfood" at the start of pretty much every article on Mephedrone you'll find is not only making people think "Why would anyone take a Plant food?! they must be insane!" but causing misinformed people to go to garden centres and buy actual plantfood thinking it's the same thing.
 
Aye JK's a knob, you would think he would do research on stuff before he came out with all his shite.

I presume they were "up" for days on end prior to this Werewolf bollox.

When he said "why would people just look at this plant food and think, "oh ill take that" "

For fucks sake.

Another issue is "Horse Tranquilizer", they like to get that in every time they take about K.
 
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hmmm seems odd the drug community has been hammering meph (probably much harder than the public at large) for 18 months+ without killing themselves, now everyone is popping their clogs in a week or two
 
perfect haze said:
hmmm seems odd the drug community has been hammering meph (probably much harder than the public at large) for 18 months+ without killing themselves, now everyone is popping their clogs in a week or two
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I reckon part of that is because the people involved now know to look for mcat related deaths, and register anything related to be caused by mcat to be on the safe side. Will have to wait and see what the tox reports say about the deaths in the past 2 weeks, but that girl who died of a respiratory infection - 18 months ago the authorities would probably never have made any connection with meph in my opinion...
 
perfect haze said:
hmmm seems odd the drug community has been hammering meph (probably much harder than the public at large) for 18 months+ without killing themselves, now everyone is popping their clogs in a week or two
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1) consumption has risen massively over the last 4-5 months, the level of consumption of the drug by the drug community over the last few years has been relatively small perhaps a few hundreds of thousands of exposures per month, we are now seeing the same number of exposures a week. Additionally judging by the posts here and elsewhere the muppets have gotten hold of it in a big way.

2) Coroners are aware of it and it is looked for in post mortem toxicology screens.

3) Expect more deaths to be linked to mephedrone use over the next few months.


we likely still have the fallout from the current excessive use in the form ephedrine-like long term toxicity to come, probably in the form of cardiac damage, high blood pressure, circulatory damage, kidney damage, of course that toxicity will be practically impossible to directly attribute to mephedrone.

People need to get smart and moderate their consumption of this drug.
 
Surprising that when that silly bastard in charge of the ACMD - Professor Iverson - recently said "Mephedrone is amphetamine by another name" no-one said "Well, if that's true when was the last time amphetamine killed anyone?"
 
Theres an interesting article about mephedrone in The Sun news paper today, worth a read.
 
Ismene said:
Surprising that when that silly bastard in charge of the ACMD - Professor Iverson - recently said "Mephedrone is amphetamine by another name" no-one said "Well, if that's true when was the last time amphetamine killed anyone?"
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Neuropsychobiology 2010;61:122-130 (DOI: 10.1159/000279302)
Abstract

Background/Aims: Despite being amphetamine derivatives, MDMA and its analogues show a number of clinical pharmacological differences with respect to both amphetamine (AMP) and methylamphetamine (METH). We aimed here at reporting and analysing information relating to the socio-demographics and clinical circumstances of the AMP-type stimulant-related deaths for the whole of the UK. Methods: Data (1997–2007) were taken from the National Programme on Substance Abuse Deaths (np-SAD) database, collecting information from UK coroners/procurators fiscal. To calculate rates of fatalities per 100,000 users, appropriate AMP/METH and ecstasy users’ numbers were taken from the 2001–2007 British Crime Survey. Results: Overall, 832 AMP/METH- and 605 ecstasy (mostly MDMA and methylenedioxyamphetamine/MDA)-related deaths were respectively identified. In comparison with AMP/METH victims, the ecstasy ones were more likely to be younger (28.3 vs. 32.7 years; p < 0.0001) and less likely to be known as drug users (PR = 1.9; CI 1.5–2.6). Ecstasy was more likely to be identified on its own than AMP/METH (p = 0.0192). Contributory factors were more frequently mentioned by coroners in the ‘AMP/METH-only’ (106 cases) group than in the ‘ecstasy-only’ (104 cases) one (p = 0.0043). Both poly- and monodrug AMP/METH fatalities per 100,000 16- to 59-year-old users were significantly more represented than ecstasy fatalities (respectively 17.87 ± 4.77 deaths vs. 10.89 ± 1.27; p = 0.000; 2.09 ± 0.88 vs. 1.75 ± 0.56; p = 0.0096). However, mono-intoxication ecstasy fatalities per 100,000 16- to 24-year-old users were significantly more represented than AMP/METH fatalities (1.67 ± 0.52 vs. 0.8 ± 0.65; p = 0.0007). Conclusion: With respect to AMP/METH, ecstasy was here more typically identified in victims who were young, healthy, and less likely to be known as drug users. AMP/METH high mortality rates may be explained by users’ high levels of physical co-morbidity; excess ecstasy-related fatality rates in young users may be a reason for concern. Although the coroners’ response rate was of 90–95%, study limitations include both reporting inconsistency over time and lack of routine information on drug intake levels prior to death
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http://content.karger.com/ProdukteD...ikelNr=279302&Ausgabe=253853&ProduktNr=224082

the good news is the deaths stopped in 2007.
 
Mephedrone deaths - bad batch?

Theres been a number of deaths recently linked to mephedrone. I believe there is a bad batch going around, a couple of friends of mine have told me of cheap nasty mephedrone that has caused several fits amongst their friends.

Could be coincidental but where a recent death occured is a small place where an importer is selling bulk ammounts at suspiciously low prices. Half what you would expect to pay.

About the mephedrone - it's shardy glassy ket sized crystals which are rectangular, I think they are clear, not 100% sure. it's about 1/4 strength of the good crystaline meph. I don't think it's cut so I'm concerned theres dodgy impurities in it and it's definatly not 99.9% purity which the wholesaler claims. I'll try get an image posted but I urge people to avoid this shit at all costs. Spread the word
 
Ismene said:
Surprising that when that silly bastard in charge of the ACMD - Professor Iverson - recently said "Mephedrone is amphetamine by another name" no-one said "Well, if that's true when was the last time amphetamine killed anyone?"
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Iverson's not that bad. I heard him fronting up to a select committee of hostile MPs last week. Keith Vaz was one of them. They were behaving like a bunch of ignorant pricks, demanding to know why these 'deadly drugs' weren't banned yet.

'We can't just ban drugs based on media hysteria' said Iversen dryly. (or words to that effect.)

He went on to say that they need to test these drugs extensively before they can ban them. I get the impression that the government will be ban despite of his efforts, not because of them.
 
sundayraver said:
Theres been a number of deaths recently linked to mephedrone. I believe there is a bad batch going around, a couple of friends of mine have told me of cheap nasty mephedrone that has caused several fits amongst their friends.

Could be coincidental but where a recent death occured is a small place where an importer is selling bulk ammounts at suspiciously low prices. Half what you would expect to pay.

About the mephedrone - it's shardy glassy ket sized crystals which are rectangular, I think they are clear, not 100% sure. it's about 1/4 strength of the good crystaline meph. I don't think it's cut so I'm concerned theres dodgy impurities in it and it's definatly not 99.9% purity which the wholesaler claims. I'll try get an image posted but I urge people to avoid this shit at all costs. Spread the word
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So its not an adulterant thats causing the damage but an impurity in the batch? You think these labs make it by the kilo, hell no. If there was a fuck up in the synthesis/production there would literally be tens/hundreds of kilos of bad meph knocking about and more than a few isolated cases. IMHO.
 
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