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Mephedrone Megathread VIII: Hnnnng!

Thankfully I haven't turned into a smurf Kid, I'm just tired today not feeling too bad considering I've not slept. No appetite like. Will wait and see how I feel tomorrow.
 
Bezley said:
It's taken over every social event possible.
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Definitely.
I'm starting to not be arsed either, and I too am personally looking forward to the ban even though I don't agree with it. Everyone I know is doing it once a week at the least, and I know people who until recently have been addicted and becoming very ill, and people who have turned their nose up at MDMA in favour of this bland drug. Tolerance is leading to larger lines, and for the first time ever the other day I experienced the headspinning palpitating blue-knuckle thing. It felt REALLY dangerous. I don't even get eye-wiggles off the stuff now either, it's become far less lovey and far more coke-like. And with good MDMA about now, I think meph is kind of obsolete :\

anyway, rant over. Once the ban comes I'm going to do it occasionally if ever, and I'm not stocking up beforehand either.
 
Ismene said:
Don't be daft Romans. Thank God that PC Cuntwitt can ruin endless peoples lives for taking mephedrone? Get a grip. The ban is disgrace and an absolute fucking tragedy.
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Thank god Ismene is still with us... :)

All these people saying that they've had enough of meph, amazingly around the same time a ban has been announce, is laughable. It's not some crazy killer drug that will do a Pai Mei Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique on you. It's just another drug that deserves the same respect as any other. Follow simple rules and you'll be fine...

I don't understand the logic in people being pleased that meph is being made illegal but then not happy that things like MDMA and cannabis, etc. are still controlled...
 
Have to agree with that. I'm obviously no 'Drone droner but the number of newfound prohibitionists that come out of the woodwork because they personally have a problem with the stuff has been pretty shocking really. I fuckin' loathe the shit but would never wish it be banned. Regulated yes, banned no.
 
7zark7 said:
I don't understand the logic in people being pleased that meph is being made illegal but then not happy that things like MDMA and cannabis, etc. are still controlled...
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Shambles said:
I'm obviously no 'Drone droner but the number of newfound prohibitionists that come out of the woodwork because they personally have a problem with the stuff has been pretty shocking really.
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Both good points. Most of the posts from serious meph heads show a pretty low level of intelligence (in my view). :)
 
I'm sorry, I'm torn on the issue, and I am essentially basing this off of my worry for my friends, logically and rationally I would side against myself.

As such I do not appreciate the rather passive aggressive comments towards my view point, I'm sure you have all been in particular situations where you are very much confused about what you believe is right when it becomes a situation that involves loved ones.

Let me clarify, I believe mephedrone in its current state of been completely legal, with no structure or proper restrictions on its sale and a complete lack of medical support for those psychologically addicted is a very worrying situation for me, especially with its wide spread usage amongst so many idiotics.

Again, please be civil with me.
 
Problem is you seem to be changing your mind. ;)

I Heart Romans said:
I'm with you when you say thank God for the impending ban, it's a shame that it's the only way to get people to take it seriously.
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I Heart Romans said:
Let me clarify, I believe mephedrone in its current state of been completely legal, with no structure or proper restrictions on its sale and a complete lack of medical support for those psychologically addicted is a very worrying situation for me, especially with its wide spread usage amongst so many idiotics.
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And civil is for pussies.:p;)
 
I can understand that those who have problems or are close to people that do would think twice about illegalisation, but it's basic common sense that prohibition only ever makes things worse. Sounds to me like what your ideal situation would be regulated sale of drugs - far easier to control but of course some will still have problems. They will have worse problems with the law against them though. History is pretty clear on that one.

I had a pretty serious heroin addiction for 15 years. Literally dozens of people I've known over the years have had their lives ruined, are locked up for a very long time, or are dead for an even longer time as a result of the stuff. More accurately as a result of it's illegality. If I could only legalise one drug it would be heroin. Not despite of the damage done - because of it.
 
Shambles said:
If I could only legalise one drug it would be heroin. Not despite of the damage done - because of it.
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That's because you are nice. :)

I'm a nasty bastard, so defo would be choosing coke as the one legalised drug. ;)=D
 
Well given the current legal situation with drugs in general I think banning Meph was a good short term call, well maybe I should say that it was just the only acceptable one. Anything else would have taken years to implement, the government needed to make a move on legal highs. There really was no other practical option. Leaving it legal and unregulated for another year or two would have sent wrong message. You guys have to consider how uninformed and easily influenced most of the potential users out there are.

Oh and Meph doing a Pai Mei Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique made me lol, that's gold.
 
That's the big problem I have with the ban - rushed in to appease the clamour to Do Something by the hysterical media is short-term thinking of the lowest order. Here was an ideal opportunity to make a real, effective and lasting change to benefit the whole of society that's been tossed away in tomorrows fish and chip wrappers.
 
Esoterik said:
You guys have to consider how uninformed and easily influenced most of the potential users out there are.
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Why? What's wrong with folk using a bit of intelligence and making their own mind up about stuff? Bit of Darwinian theory might come into play......

My only issue was with schoolkids taking stacks of the stuff...something that could easily be solved with regulation.
 
Shambles said:
That's the big problem I have with the ban - rushed in to appease the clamour to Do Something by the hysterical media is short-term thinking of the lowest order. Here was an ideal opportunity to make a real, effective and lasting change to benefit the whole of society that's been tossed away in tomorrows fish and chip wrappers.
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Yep, and all the new RC's the public will be lead to believe is the chemists fault that even newer, more dangerous and less tested drugs appear on the scene.
 
Regulation is far from easy. Regulation would take over a year to get ironed out and finally passed. The problem with Meph was that the government cottoned on to it waaaaaay too late and it only happened because of the media pressure. If they did anything else other than ban it people would look at it as either safer than all other illegal drugs and we'd see it all over the place, or they would see it as a hypocritical move on the government's part and put pressure on them regarding the existing illegals.

I'm not denying it was a half arsed short term fix, but there really was nothing else they could do.
 
If the government actually cared about the citizens of this country they'd have the balls to use that year or so whilst meph remained unregulated to draft legislation to save lives rather than destroy them and to educate the public rather than bow to media manipulation and misinformation.
 
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