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Mephedrone Megathread VIII: Hnnnng!

Tragically, widespread newspaper abuse has become so endemic, it has crippled the country's ability to conduct a sensible debate about the "war on drugs". The current screaming festival over "meow meow" or "M-Cat" or whatever else the actual users aren't calling it, is a textbook example
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in lieu of explanation, we're treated to an hysterical, obfuscating advertising campaign for a substance that will presumably – thanks to the furore – soon only be available via illegal, unregulated, more dangerous, means. If I was 15 years old, I wouldn't be typing this right now. I'd be trying to buy "plant food" on the internet. And this time next year I'd be buying it in a pub toilet, cut with worming pills and costing four times as much.
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It's hard to shake the notion half the users aren't trying to "escape the boredom of their lives": just praying for a brief holiday from society's unrelenting bullshit.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/mar/22/charlie-brooker-newspapers-dangerous-drug

Gold star.
 
Good ol Charlie Brooker :D He specialises in calling out media bullshit and gives you the facts...love him.
 
If i tell the doctor i have done mephedrone a few times, will it go on my medical record?

I am gonna have to say something when i go tomorrow because i am going through hell worrying about my heart and i need to have some tests done to put my mind at rest.
 
Danny Weed said:
If i tell the doctor i have done mephedrone a few times, will it go on my medical record?

I am gonna have to say something when i go tomorrow because i am going through hell worrying about my heart and i need to have some tests done to put my mind at rest.
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It's probably the worrying that is giving you any heart problem 'symptoms'...
 
Danny Weed said:
If i tell the doctor i have done mephedrone a few times, will it go on my medical record?

I am gonna have to say something when i go tomorrow because i am going through hell worrying about my heart and i need to have some tests done to put my mind at rest.
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It depends - the doctor will more than likely want to write it down cos it's infomation which may be helpful for treating you now or on the future, but it'll just be in one entry in your notes. There isn't some big centralised "my notes" type thing, so if you go to the GP it will be on their notes but not hospital notes, and vice versa. It won't affect anything at all though, so try not to worry - no one but a doctor who is involved in your care or yourself are allowed to see your notes without your permission, and doctors won't bat an eyelid about something like this - they'll have seen loads worse!

I'm all for being completely honest with your doctors, makes their life a lot easier if they don't have to play detective, means you are more likely to get the right investigations and treatment, and confidentiality laws are pretty strict :)

Good luck with the tests, I hope they put your mind at rest <3
 
effie said:
It depends - the doctor will more than likely want to write it down cos it's infomation which may be helpful for treating you now or on the future, but it'll just be in one entry in your notes. There isn't some big centralised "my notes" type thing, so if you go to the GP it will be on their notes but not hospital notes, and vice versa. It won't affect anything at all though, so try not to worry - no one but a doctor who is involved in your care or yourself are allowed to see your notes without your permission, and doctors won't bat an eyelid about something like this - they'll have seen loads worse!

I'm all for being completely honest with your doctors, makes their life a lot easier if they don't have to play detective, means you are more likely to get the right investigations and treatment, and confidentiality laws are pretty strict :)

Good luck with the tests, I hope they put your mind at rest <3
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really, :|
the NHS are busy computerizing the medical records and there is legislation in place to allow other (non medical) state organizations access to those records, under the guise of efficiency. for example the department of work and pensions has already floated the idea of cross checking benefit claims against medical records. they call it joined up government or something.

go get tested if that is what you want, butr do not mention mephedrone or other 'illicit' drug use.
 
vecktor said:
really, :|
the NHS are busy computerizing the medical records and there is legislation in place to allow other (non medical) state organizations access to those records, under the guise of efficiency. for example the department of work and pensions has already floated the idea of cross checking benefit claims against medical records. they call it joined up government or something.

go get tested if that is what you want, butr do not mention mephedrone or other 'illicit' drug use.
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Hmm. Computerised records are still a fair way off, and at the moment something mentioned in one part of your records will not be easily known by all who treat you unless they read that specific part. The notes system is a bit of a shambles though so things will definitely be different soon - shall have to wait and see how efficient it will be, am not holding my breath!

I didn't know that about other organisations, that really surprises me - doctors have quite a lot of requests for medical info about things like sickness or asylum claims, and they are only allowed to divulge information if they have express written permission from the patient - and even then the patient can ask them to omit something. Confidentiality is absolutely central to the way medicine works in the NHS. Docs are not even allowed to tell the police anything unless there is a direct risk to someone's safety or they get written permission from the patient.

Going to look up the GMC guidelines now to check but that's the way I have been taught and it's how my colleagues all work..

Maybe I'm being naive but generally speaking doctors don't give a shit about what you have taken, they just want to treat you, and the more information you can give them the better in my opinion. Each to their own though :)

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Yep only allowed to disclose info if the dislosure is in the public's best interest (eg a psychotic patient having delusions that would endanger people), or you have full written consent. Patients can even ask you not to share info with other doctors and you could definitely ask for something you tell a doctor to be omitted from the medical notes. There is no way info would be shared with third parties such as the DWP without your permission. I have the 2009 GMC confidentiality guidelines if anyone fancies some thrilling reading, hehe.
 
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I'd say knock the stim use on the head if you're experiencing any kinds of problems whatsoever with the heart. Just not worth it.

Don't tell doc though. Acknowledging drug use can make it extremely difficult to get scripted stuff with abuse potential, which could make your life very difficult somewhere along the line.
 
IdiotsInStereo said:
I'd say knock the stim use on the head if you're experiencing any kinds of problems whatsoever with the heart. Just not worth it.
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Yea im done with all that stuff now, gonna stay well clear of the stims now.

I have decided not to tell the doc that i took the mephedrone. After all, if there is damage done it wont make any difference if they know what i took or not.
 
Danny Weed said:
If i tell the doctor i have done mephedrone a few times, will it go on my medical record?

I am gonna have to say something when i go tomorrow because i am going through hell worrying about my heart and i need to have some tests done to put my mind at rest.
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Your choice mate but IME telling doctors about any illicit drug use is a complete waste of time. Telling a doctor about mephedrone seems even more futile because I'm pretty sure I can guess what they will say given the current climate where most peoples 'facts' about it are coming from The Sun.

Have the tests, settle your mind. Tell them about meph and they'll probably give you more unresearched 'facts' to worry over. :\

EDIT ^ Your last sentence is correct.
 
I dunno, I see what you are all saying. I suppose it depends what is most important to you really and how worried you are about your health. It's pretty hard to diagnose someone accurately without full info though, and doctors are unlikely to run a load of cardiac tests for no good readon.

I admit most docs are shit when it comes to drug use though, they haven't really got a clue.
 
I enjoyed these two quotes:

The stuff is corrosive to skin. Now what people do is buy a packet of painkiller capsules from the chemist, open the capsules and empty out the painkiller. They fill the capsule back up with Meow Meow and swallow the whole thing. It's a lethal way of doing it though because you come up on it all at once.
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and
In the after-hours clubs which open at 3am until midday people end up doing what is known as slag lines - lines of meow meow which are half a gram or bigger.
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:D

edit - beaten by slag
 
someone on here actually did get ket cut with meph the other day :|
some dealers are fucking stupid, probably kids or something
 
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