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Mephedrone Megathread VII: Misunderstood Marvels & Malingering Metabolites

Don Luigi said:
I think it has truely fucked up my hands and feet. I've been getting weird cramps in them for a few weeks now. For those who have stopped taking after periods of heavy use, and experienced similar side effects - if it has gone away at all; how long did it take?
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This is probably due to the lingering vasoconstriction that I have seen people mention on here.

Not sure how serious it is to still have it weeks after discontinuing use and not too sure how to combat it... but I would just suggest what I always do for minimising vasoconstriction while on the drug. That is; keep well hydrated (ie: drink more fluids) and keep yourself (ie: your extremities) warm.
 
Shambles said:
Don: My circulation is still fucked several months after I last used meph - I didn't even use it frequently or heavily :\

PS: Weekend bomb excluded before the pedants go in for the kill :D
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how is your circulation still fucked ? what problems or symptoms are you still having ?
 
some of the long termside effects from this dug are pretty worrying..

Shambles how frequently did you use when you used to have long term side effects ?
 
Biggest binge was only 5g over 48 hours and total use barely a dozen grams ever. Lingering symptoms are constantly cold extremities, pins and needles, blotchiness (purple/blue knees and so on) and extreme swelling. Can't even get my shoes on sometimes :|
 
fucking hell i woud go to the doctors if i had those symptoms ^

5gs in 48 hours is a heck of alot but people seem to get away with doing more
 
I've changed from a nieve doing it all the time user, to a most probably addicted user of the stuff to a firm standing in the anti-meph brigade due to the shallow high and negative side effects.
I can't deal with the fiending (yes I know that's a self control issue but no drug other than ketamine has been so bad for me personally). The high ain't all that, sure it's speedy and slighty euphoric and you can wank for hours but it's pretty damn shallow, and it's in the same way that coke is people end up just talking about themselves for hours on end.

Sure it's better than shit pills but so is having a pint or taking some good quality speed.
 
What would happen if you took 5 grams of MDMA over 48 hours anyway? I mean, 5 grams of Meph is like 20 doses, 250mg should be enough to get you high for an evening. Let's be honest here, if you took 20 evenings worth of alcohol, MDMA or whatever in 48 hours, you'd have much more serious problems than pins and needles.

I don't think I've ever taken more than 500mgs over a week (the same applies to MDMA) and I've never had any negative symptoms that last longer than 24h hours. With the amount people are reportedly taking I'm really surprised how little evidence there is to back up all these condemnations.
 
^ yeh exactly how i see it. seeing 5gs as a sensible amount is ridiculous. i cant imagine how bad you woud feel if you did 5gs of mdma in a weekend
 
wouldn't the equivalent be 2 grams of MDMA? taking into account the difference in dosage? Also with MDMA having a much longer duration the doses aren't really comparable
 
Esoterik said:
What would happen if you took 5 grams of MDMA over 48 hours anyway? I mean, 5 grams of Meph is like 20 doses, 250mg should be enough to get you high for an evening. Let's be honest here, if you took 20 evenings worth of alcohol, MDMA or whatever in 48 hours, you'd have much more serious problems than pins and needles.

I don't think I've ever taken more than 500mgs over a week (the same applies to MDMA) and I've never had any negative symptoms that last longer than 24h hours. With the amount people are reportedly taking I'm really surprised how little evidence there is to back up all these condemnations.
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I think people compare meph too much to MDMA in that respect. Would you say that just because somebody had 2 grams of coke in a night they were having "20 times the normal dose?" I doubt it, I mean obviously that is quite a lot of cocaine but still, I'm just playing devil's advocate again :)


EDIT: Evad beat me to it and better put. Le sigh 8)
 
Esoterik said:
What would happen if you took 5 grams of MDMA over 48 hours anyway? I mean, 5 grams of Meph is like 20 doses, 250mg should be enough to get you high for an evening. Let's be honest here, if you took 20 evenings worth of alcohol, MDMA or whatever in 48 hours, you'd have much more serious problems than pins and needles.

I don't think I've ever taken more than 500mgs over a week (the same applies to MDMA) and I've never had any negative symptoms that last longer than 24h hours. With the amount people are reportedly taking I'm really surprised how little evidence there is to back up all these condemnations.
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I had no problems taking 5g of MDMA over 48 hours. There's no relation between MDMA and meph though so not a useful relevant comparison really.
 
thats a higher than normal dosage though, MDMA has got to be twice as potent to meph by weight

Shambles said:
I had no problems taking 5g of MDMA over 48 hours. There's no relation between MDMA and meph though so not a useful relevant comparison really.
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indeed, lets have some less useless discussion hah
 
I wasn't meaning 5g of either was a good idea :D

Don't recall any problems like these reported from excessive MDMA use though.

I'd say meph was around 50% as "strong" as MDMA but still don't see the connection other than both being stims. I wouldn't take 5g of caffeine in 48 hours but nor would most folks. Plenty take 5g of meph over 24 hours let alone 48.
 
plenty of people do take 5g of meop in 24 hours but alot of these people have serious problems because of it. just becasue some people totally take the piss on it, it dosnt mean slightly taking the piss is ok
 
been head said:
what do you mean ? i always used to dose 250mg of mad which is what most people dose of meph.
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I'd say the 250mg MDMA would be a tad more intense would you? And you've never really got that into the meph whereas with MDMA you had a bit of a tollerance. You see what I'm saying?

5gs is alot man. ive never done more than 1g in a week and ive had no problems.
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So is 1.5g of MDMA in a night man! I'd say 2.5g of meph in a night is alot but I've done worse. Generally the people who are used to eating quite a few pills and are as well aquainted with meph need alot more meph than they would MDMA.

Its a rubbish comparison anyway...
 
The comparison with MDMA might have been a bad one, but I stand by the general point of what I said. Having followed these threads out of concern for my health and simply curiosity, I've been somewhat underwhelmed (or relieved) by the outcome so far in terms of reported negative health effects. I know it's far too early to tell for sure, but people are treating Meph as if it is something special in terms of the bodily harm it causes, when it appears more like the special thing about it is the way it is being used.
 
I'd say the rampant abuse and excessive dosages are pretty intrinsic to the drug itself - such a shallow experience that I (and I suspect plenty others) are chasing a non-existent high rather than taking it on its own terms as a fairly crappy and unusually toxic chem. I find it hard to believe anybody would be satisfied with 250-500mg in a night but each to their own. Very easy to use several grams dosing round the clock - weakish + fiendish = wreckage :\
 
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