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Mephedrone Megathread VI: Anyone Seen My Heartvalves?

I seem to get more paranoid on real MDMA these days than I do on Drone its usually just at the end of the Comeup and I start thinking all my mates are having me on & out to get me and shit & start thinking im fucked in the head and have been for ages.

With Drone I dont have anything like this, no comedown either just a bit of a dodgy nose.
 
i get thoughts like that on a drone comedown, start questioning myself, thinking people dont like me anymore, get paranoid and feel fucked up for a few days. then im stupid enough to go and do drone again when i recover. lol
 
i think im suffering an aortic anerysm made worse by mephedrone and possible marfans syndrome :( Getting a scan to see and will probably need sugery.
 
Mephedrone - 'syncope' type/body electric shocks after effects? Help..

Hi all. I've been taking meph now since I discovered it in August. My friend was on it a few weeks ago and recently told me he was having strange electric shocks when drinking (usually fixxy drinks). I told him i'd never had this effect before.

Last night me and my mate were on it from 6am the night before through to 3pm last night through the day and night with a 2 hour break and another 2 hour break later in the afternoon where I forced some food down. We slept at 6pm last night as woke up at 12.

At around 5.30 that night we werre in the kitchen getting ready to go to bed and he told me he got these electric shocks again while drinking. I still hadn't had these and at 6pm we headded to bed. As i walked into the bedroom it happened. A really strange shock - almost like an electric shock but really hard to explain. Throws you off balance a bit. My mate describes it as feeling like he's falling? Best way i can explain is an electric shock.

I've read on these forums about thesew head shocks, but these we are getting arent from the head. If anything - from the chest? But not 100% sure as its hard to tell when it happens and it only lasts split seconds.

At 8pm tonight (still with only 6 hours sleep since Thursday night and it's now 9pm Sunday night so very tired from heavy weekend) I had a drink and started gulping it/drinking it fast. Each gulp I started getting these shocks so i kept going and they got worse and worse to the point where I stopped and said 'fucking hell' and put the drink down. I went upstairs and finished the drink with no issues.

Me and my mate both get these when relaxing. I notice when i'm watching TV i tend to get them as i start to relax more and more. I also got 1 big one and 1 small one just before going to sleep last night.

Any idea what this is? My mates had it for 2 weeks now. He's done some research and found out about 'swallow syncope' where only 2 cases have been diagnosed? Very worrying! Very little info on it and very rare! The only fix for the woman was a pacemaker. Hers was worse though and she passed out. (link: http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/01/14/1745186.aspx)

After doing some research on meph, I noticed some sites say 'syncope' is a side effect of taking mephedrone but a lot of sites don't list this. I have no idea if this could be down to the 6 hours sleep i've had since Thursday night but i've never had these effects before!

Has anyone else experienced this or know anything about it?
 
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Thing is, I hadn't done meph for 3 weeks up untill wednesday night of this week then happened to do it again friday/sat. Before that 3 weeks I was doing it every weekend and occasionally some weekdays. My mate has been taking it every weekend for the past 8-9 weeks.

Thanks for the reply btw. Was getting worried that this would more likely get worse then better. I panic too much.
 
Definitely brain/head zaps. I just carried on through mine, and they never came back.
 
Allways get brainzaps after using meph or MDMA, they start to appear 2 days after, they are usually not that bad.
I did get extremely bad brainzaps from taking buspar once... stupid stuff
 
Weird shit. I couldnt sleep for about 2 hours last night because they just kept coming, then I got to sleep and 5mins later I had a really bad nightmare where i was bent over and someone was hitting me in the back harder and harder till i started screaming and i woke up almost screaming. I've never had anything like that before. Crazy shit. I've had the day off work today. I'm staying off Meph for life I think. Fuck this shit!
 
After doing some research on meph, I noticed some sites say 'syncope' is a side effect of taking mephedrone but a lot of sites don't list this.

Syncope is a fancy word for passing out, I believe - often caused by low blood pressure.

Although meph is reported to raise blood pressure, it could maybe cause low blood pressure after stopping use through dehydration This, combined with a reversing of the vasoconstriction caused by meph could result in syncope.

I have no idea if this could be down to the 6 hours sleep i've had since Thursday night but i've never had these effects before!

Hmm... I wonder if there could be a connection...?


Regarding the head zaps, I would guess that it is serotonin depletion - or maybe rather serotonin replenishment (ie: you brain / body creating a lot of it fast because you have low levels). As others have said, it is often experienced after taking MDMA and/or lack of sleep. You naturally replenish your serotonin when you are asleep, so going without sleep doesn't give your body chance to make more - plus it's probably the reason why you experience head zaps as you are finally getting to sleep. Furthermore, I found that taking 5htp made the zaps worse - but they were over quicker. This is why I guess that it's the replenishment that causes the zaps. :)
 
^ Totally agree with the above post. I often need alot more sleep than usual for upto a week after a heavy weekend on the mephedrone.

I've come to a few of conclusions after the weekend with this stuff. Firstly, I'd say that it really is not ment to be snorted. The effects from sniffing and bombing really are miles apart. From Friday around 8pm - Sat around 3pm, I did about 2.5g's. Alot of this was snorted and it definately made me alot more on edge. Towards the end of the night I was very paranoid, around 7am - kept thinking I was hearing people etc. It seems to cause some sort of psychosis, no matter what you say to the person they will not listen. I never had it that bad, but I now understand how some of my mates have felt.

After we got home from the night out, I did continue taking more after a couple of hours break. The paranoia had gone by then.. In the end it got to a point where I couldn't seem to get the rushes or any euphoria and empathy from it. No use, so I packed it in and went to bed. This is strange to me, as I have always thought that with mephedrone, redosing usually works to some extent.

Later that night after a meal and a shower I decided to bomb some of it. I wasn't particularly bothered about having more in all honestly, but was really curious to see if it would work! The first bomb ~ 250mg, it blew my head, off as usual. I redosed around 45mins later and was completely wiped out without feeling any negative effects. The night before I had experianced paranoia and some mild chest pain, definately from the snifing huge lines the way it felt.

I also think weed does go well with this drug. But like redosing, the timing seems quite important. Redosing outside an hour of the first bomb and you might aswell have waited for it to wear off completely as the massive rush and come up are not there. You will get both to an extent, but not nearly as much as if it had been 30-45mins, at that time it seems perfect. The rush of the second dose then is so effective and like MDMA - with the magic! With the weed wait untill you've peaked already or do it before. But on the come up it seems to send the whole thing wayward and a totally different thing altogether..

In addition I think this stuff is seriously much better, cleaner and almost no negative effects if you leave the alcohol and lines out! The alcohol makes it so much more groggy and just feels like its lacking the come up, and leaves you spangled. The lines are much more fiendish, and only last about 30mins for me.

Its more a house drug than an out and about club drug. With bombs the want for redosing seems much less, and sleep is possible. I think timing really is the key with it though. And after 2 x 250mg bombs, if your going to do more your aswell waiting for the effects of them to wear off, maybe smoke some weed, or move onto something else.. You need to come back to baseline before it will work properly again. It definately acts on seratonin and dopamine, sleep helps massively, so does food. Anything after those first 2 doses and it will just give a short rush, not the pure feeling you had before...

Bit of a rant here, but thought I'd report my latest thoughts on the matter :)
 
Its more a house drug than an out and about club drug

lol. its anything but a house drug, unless you have no friends and dont go out. this drug is fully for chatting to random awesome people, dancing like a cock and having awesome nights out
 
It doesn't last anywhere near long enough to be any use for clubbing. Its also a bit too heavy on the head for clubbing I feel. You get a huge rush for a while and want to dance like a maniac, but after that initial rush is gone it gives me no more urge to dance. When I said house drug, I mean its suits being in a house/indoor with mates better IMO.
 
perhaps. booze + meph combo is great for clubbing i find, even when the meph wears off i get a mellow afterbuzz. plus a buzz from drinking, still end up dancing like a nutter. being in a house in doors with mates would drive me mental. waste of time and health doing that. i prefer to go out and meet people
 
From Friday around 8pm - Sat around 3pm, I did about 2.5g's. Alot of this was snorted and it definately made me alot more on edge. Towards the end of the night I was very paranoid, around 7am - kept thinking I was hearing people etc. It seems to cause some sort of psychosis, no matter what you say to the person they will not listen.

All to do with snorting, aye? Fuck all to do with 2.5g's of the stuff? ;)
 
No, not all to do with snorting. But you can't bomb that much. With bombing I'd give up after 750mg-1g max, because it would be doing fuck all :\

Are you not the one who buys g's of random white powder @ £65? :D And was it not 1.5g on your first time? You'll be doing quarters in no time mate ;)
 
No, not all to do with snorting. But you can't bomb that much. With bombing I'd give up after 750mg-1g max, because it would be doing fuck all :\

Are you not the one who buys g's of random white powder @ £65? :D And was it not 1.5g on your first time? You'll be doing quarters in no time mate ;)

Hahah, fair enough. But i'm older and wiser than you. 8)

I found bombing pish compared to snorting. But i had no scales, and i was so fucked by the stupid first lines that i was doing that my vision was so impaired that i may well have been bombing the sugar from the free tea and coffee making facilities......;)

I will give bombing a better go next time. Maybe.
 
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