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Mephedrone Addiction

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Hey Bl-ers, this is my first post, have only just joined. Have shadowed various threads for a while now. Some very interesting views on drone going about...
Basicallly, I became addicted at the beginning of last summer, and only stopped when my girlfriend left me a bit over a month ago because of it. Basically, I am on my own now, and have just relapsed. The feeling is beautiful, but I know this is not what I want. I have A-levels coming up and I need to get into a good university.. I am keeping this a secret from all my friends, as I did last time this situation happened, and this I feel terrible about. I was just wondering whether anyone has any good advice on methods of quitting? (alternate temporary substances, advice from previous experience..)
I would love to hear any sort of advice people have to offer..
Cheers
 
How much mephedrone are you using how often? Are you using it every day or every weekend? Are you sleeping normally or staying up all night on the stuff? These things will make a big difference (to the situation and also to the advise people give you).


You probably realise this already but mephedrone is a really bad drug to become dependent on. It has amphetamine like properties as well as entactogenic properties (like mdma) and it puts a much bigger strain on your body than most drugs that people become seriously dependant on on a daily basis (from the obviously relatively harmless like your hardcore caffeine addict through to your nicotine addict or daily stoner).

If you really can't handle life without some kind of chemical support you'd be better off taking up smoking weed or even tobacco than continuing with the mephedrone. If you have underlying issues then therapy and possibly anti-depressants would be a safer option.

From those that have quit before it seems cold turkey is the prefered method. From what i gather it is unpleasant but not life threatening (unlike alcohol and opiate or benzo withdrawal can be). You are probably best getting some help and support from friends and family and if possible remove yourself from the every day situations in which you would normally be taking mephedrone until you get off the stuff as they will remind you of it and make you want to take more.
 
A simple method that can be used to help start to break the cycle is a basic mind exercise:

Whenever you feel like you want to take a hit, tell yourself 'not this time' and then specifically find something else to do to take your mind off of it (play a videogame, watch a movie, read a book, go for a walk and do the shopping, do some painting etc.). Do this three times, and then on the fourth time you allow yourself to take the hit (normal dose, not a larger one).

What this does is start to train your mind to say no, if you start to increase over time the number of times you say no before giving into the cravings it will start getting easier and easier. It is just a simple willpower exercise, but it can work wonders. It also tends to be more effective than cold-turkey where the 'fuck it' syndrome kicks in and as soon as you take the first hit it's all over and you binge...
 
If i had the willpower to stick to my mind game of 'not this time' just 3 times then just 4 times then just 5 times without also thinking about wanting to take a hit more and more often so that i got through the 3, 4 then 5 repetitions more quickly to make up for it then i would also have the willpower to quit cold turkey.

Might work for some people though.

Personally i go with a combination of deciding intellectually that i must not continue taking the substance because of reasons X, Y and Z, then once i make my mind up just toughing out several days or so of unpleasant physical side effects (withdrawal) in the knowledge that if i give in and start taking the stuff again i have to go through withdrawal all over again. It helps me if i can take time off from work and other responsibilities so that whilst i am feeling really bad i just have to deal with recovering.

There is no magic easy way to go through withdrawal that i know of, but if you think about it as just being ill for a week or so then feeling better once you are sober it's actually not that bad compared to actually being seriously ill. The difficulty is you can (temporarily) make it go away if you start taking the stuff again.

Admittedly for me this was with nicotine rather than mephedrone so it's not quite the same.
 
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When I was last doing it I would do it (alone) every other day about... doing about a gram every session. In reply to MrM, I have tried smoking weed, but its just not effective.. the wrong direction of high really. Also, I dont know if anyone else has found this but have done a fair bit of MCAT I have quite a large tendency to become paranoid when stoned...
To internet muse, I have never heard of this technique before but will give it a go.. Not sure how much my mind will likew it when i am fiending, though.
 
Hlondon said:
When I was last doing it I would do it (alone) every other day about... doing about a gram every session. In reply to MrM, I have tried smoking weed, but its just not effective.. the wrong direction of high really.
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Weed was just an idea - unfortunately you are right and it's not that similar to mephedrone anyway.

a gram every other day is not good - not quite 24/7 usage but pretty regular.

The trouble i have with the 'not this time' approach suggested by InternetMuse is that i know myself when i start taking mephedrone the high is so nice and so powerful that my ability at that point to stick to any kind of limited sensible dosing regime goes out the window. When i take the stuff i decide how much i will take before and hide the rest.

That's why i favour the cold turkey approach - you are only really going to be able to say no to mephedrone before you take the first dose in the day - after that it's a bit pointless anyway.

Other than that i would suggest you find something else you can do with all your time that previously you were enjoying mephedrone with. Maybe take up World of Warcraft (or seriously, any game or activity that will eat hours of your life away without requiring drugs) - I've heard it can be addictive but the side effects aren't as bad as meph;) You will need a distraction.
 
By the way.. I understand that this problem is not as bad as other people's.. I dont want to seem like an attention seeker, but this issue does mean a lot to me.. I have lost a lot of firiends because of this, and just want it to go away.
 
Yeah.. I just found out a dealer lives on my road today... which is definately not good news. I have a bit of a general substance problem since I gave the stuff up a month ago... been getting drunk lots, ketamine, coke here and there, and my mum is a doctor, so has prescription drugs kicking about, so I have been droping like 5 pills of the beta-blocker propanalol a day. This is questionably a worse situation that being an MCAT addict... but today I got some coke, and as it usually is in London it did buggar all.. but at this pont I got a bit chasey, and felt the urge to buy drone. I think I tend to fiend quite a bit more than the average person, this gram and a half will be gone by tomorrow.
 
The 'not this time' technique is only a basic one and certainly doesn't work for everybody. But it's also one of the easiest ones to try out, so there's no excuse not to!

Even if you are only delaying by ten or fifteen minutes it is still causing you to create a mechanism in your brain that stops the craving -> instant dose without consideration effect. It causes you to stop and think every single time, even if only for a short time.

Also, it doesn't count if you just say 'want it? no. Want it? no. Want it? no. Want it? okay!' within a few seconds ;) The points is that each 'not this time' is also accompanied by starting a new activity.

Works really well for cigarettes by the way.
 
Thanks, both of you. Its really good to have some support. If i could pose a quick qustion? It is said that drone is, on a molecular level, very similar to crystal meth.. how much so? I disagree with people saying it feels like MDMA, there is a much more frantic edge to it. Anyone done meth and meph and could compare them? If there are similar negative long term effects then am a bit worried.
 
Hlondon said:
By the way.. I understand that this problem is not as bad as other people's.. I dont want to seem like an attention seeker, but this issue does mean a lot to me.. I have lost a lot of firiends because of this, and just want it to go away.
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Other people's problems are nothing to do with you - the fact they may have worse problems doesn't make yours any better or else everyone would be fine and dandy except the very worst off person on the entire planet who'd get all the grief. When i feel bad i don't think about other people feeling worse then feel better.

InternetMuse said:
Even if you are only delaying by ten or fifteen minutes it is still causing you to create a mechanism in your brain that stops the craving -> instant dose without consideration effect. It causes you to stop and think every single time, even if only for a short time.
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Fair enough if it works for some people.
 
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Other people's problems are nothing to do with you - the fact they may have worse problems doesn't make yours any better or else everyone would be fine and dandy except the very worst off person on the entire planet who'd get all the grief. When i feel bad i don't think about other people feeling worse then feel better.



Fair enough if it works for some people.
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At the same time, I think it helps for some people to think of an exterior benchmark and then use this as a kind of anchor, I suppose, to remind themselves of what they're trying to achieve. depends on the individual I suppose :/ x
 
Addiction is addiction - treating it with other less harmful related substances is a Harm Reduction strategy it does not tackle the fundamental issue - which is that you persuade allow yourself to go & buy & use a chemical for a brief period of euphoria despite the fact it's clearly causing you problems in your life.


Do you think it would have been better overall if you'd never come across mephedrone?
 
I do think so... Have done drugs since I was about 15, (coke, ket, MDMA, weed) but have never experienced such an issue with any of them. I do think mephedrone is something quite different.
 
Hlondon said:
I do think so... Have done drugs since I was about 15, (coke, ket, MDMA, weed) but have never experienced such an issue with any of them. I do think mephedrone is something quite different.
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Quite. It amazes me the addiction potential of this substance, nothing has caused me more addiction problems than this particular substance and I've tried a helluva lot of different things.
 
Came across this thread yesterday and joined specifically so I could post. I am not usually an emotional person but jesus did this bring a tear to my eye. That could be part of the comedown...

I was overcome with joy when I got to the end and found out how well mugabe and angelsmoke did and again today when I read their engagement post :-)

Myself and a few friends have been working ourselves into a Meph (or as we like to call it: Snaffle) addiction. We've had a few mad sessions and I suppose at the end of the day it was me who introduced them to the shit and I since I earn more than them I tend to carry the sessions. I have a bit of experience with addiction and I do believe I can knock this one on the head. Snaffle is easy enough to stay away from (I think!) but once you start it's very hard to stop. This addictivity is what I think leads to the 96 / 120 hour sessions.

These type of sessions are fine during the summer when you're at a festival. You go down to Electric Picnic Fri morning. Start doing whatever shit you have and continue till Sun night without much sleep. Monday morning comes along and everyone goes home and back to normality. Then I discovered Snaffle.

Even at the height of mixing pills, drink, weed, coke, bzp and whatever the fuck else was floating around, I never stayed awake for 5 days in a row. The longest I had ever had was 72 hours without sleep back when I was trying to knock a weed addiction in Amsterdam. Snaffle though... In fairness to my mates, they manage better than me. The last session saw me on the 5 day binge (yet again) while they got intermittent snatches of sleep and went into work. I went into work also, I had a bag of Snaffle to get me through the days....

I've yet to discover how addictive this stuff is. Does it have the long-term addictivity I have found with weed / drink? Possibly. I've never become addicted to anything else apart from those two. My last session finished 2 days ago and I have vowed not to buy any more. Said it to the lads: they're all in agreement. Yeah right, we'll see how long that lasts! Our last session started because 3 of us were discussing how dangerous for people like us this shit is. Two fucking minutes into the conversation I couldn't take any more and drove to the head shop that stays open till 4 fucking am, bought 3 g's planning for one night of it. 5 days and 20g's later and I'm at the same point I was at the start of last week.

Mugabe and Angelsmoke. Your story is inspiring. I hope I can display even part of the strength and willpower you guys did.
 
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