Mephedrone Addiction

[Treacle]

I read an article, possibly on science daily but I'm not sure, recently about a possible reason for people becoming addicted to coke. It stated that in the adult brain the process whereby new pathways in the brain are created (neurogenesis) blunts the dopamine response of coke. Less of a dopamine 'hit' means you're brain won't associate the substance as strongly with reward. The reverse is also true, less neurogenesis - more pronounced dopamine hit - more association with reward - more addiction. Now even though I don't know certainly, I'm fairly sure that drone is quite a strong agonist of dopamine as well and so all this will apply to it too. So maybe oneday (soon?) you'll be able to go to your GP and ask if they can check the level of neurogenesis in your brain and let you know how high your personal risk of addiction is.

Sounds like a pretty sound theory. Doubt you'll be able to get that sort of test any time in the next million years, though.

 

[Xtc <3]

I know quite a few people who have been using this daily for around 8 months or so.
They usually average 4 grams of drone a day, more if its a weekend.
It appears to be fucking them up quite badly although they still say they get really high off the stuff which suprised me.

 

[Fluid0484]

I bought 4 grams of meph on the cheap at a festival last weekend. I didn't do any for the first two days after it was over, but yesterday and today I've been doing it non-stop, even at work.

The really unfortunate thing is that I work as a supervisor in a very corporate/interactive atmosphere. I'm horribly scared that I'll be found out. The come downs make me so anxious with feelings of impending doom. I was in a meeting, coaching and teaching employees today and just hammering down 5 hour energys and Red Bulls to try and stay moving and alert. It semi worked, but damn was my heart ever going fast after that.

I should have known this would happen - I have a fairly addictive personality. I was only introduced to meph about 6 weeks ago, and have only done it on about 10 of those days total......... But I am an addict. I can't stop. I meet with my boss tomorrow at 11:00 and I don't think I'll be sleeping tonight. I'm sorting as I type this.

Please help with advice to kick this. I can't lose my job over a fucking white powder.

 

[Fluid0484]

What drugs had you experienced prior to Meph?

My take on it, and this may not apply to you, is that for many this substance is their first serious drug due to is media attention and availability.

People are coming out of the woodwork with little experience and are fiending on it, just like many of us did in the early days on other substances before we grew control.

So I suppose my question is, is Meph as drastically fiendish as we think, or is the overwhelming majority of opinion from people who would be seriously abusing any similar substance put in front of them.

For me it is fiendish, but no more so than any other short acting up/down stim. Some people getting through, quite frankly, insane amounts of this stuff is a bit of a boggle to me...

Uh.... yeah, this shit is totally fiendish! more, morE, moRE, mORE, MORE!!!!

I'm going to ask the person that I bought this from to never sell it to me again, no matter what I say or offer.

My best advice after a 2 day bender to get over the comedown - NAP if possible, and caffine. And water, lots of water.

 

[Fluid0484]

i hate to say it but it is going to get to a stage that everyone will realise that something is "not quite right" with you and by then i think it will be too late - convincing yourself its for the good is not a good thing . . . .

why do you take it alone and not have the odd night on it with your man? you would be able to share the experience and not feel like you were sneaking behind his back x

Sorry to keep posting on here, but this chat has so much great information. Thank you all!

I am also using meph behind my partners back. At this point, I am using on a totally solo basis. I am such a jackass for hiding it from her, but I truly feel she will be very angry (she had a bad coke addiction a few years ago before I met her). I really feel she will just tell me I need to be stronger and stop. (which is obviously the answer, but I need friggin' support to kick this)

Thanks again to all of you! I am so glad I found this site. Please, if there is anyone out there who wants someone to quit this with, please let me know! I can check here almost daily.

 

[muttonchops]

You need to man up and tell your partner and stop taking it

 

[Mental Kenny]

I never felt mephedrone to be that addictive, way too many side-effects, at least for me it stops working after two or three days of consecutive use, the most I did in one session was 3 gram and after that I decided not too touch it again.

 

[narky1]

If you have that kind of personality everything is addictive psychologically at least.........I certainly do , if its coke Ill do enough for ten, if its weed i´ll smoke 10 joints a day, if I drink then I´ll drink half to a bottle of neat whiskey, if its crack i´ll smoke a quart in a session
but then again Iam addicted to sex, and to good food, .............personally its more about you than the substance..........I tried meph for first time a few weeks back bought 5 g listened to all the warnings about dosage , ignored em coz thats how my brain works ................what I can do however is abstain, Iam an all or nothing kind of guy ,if you offer me a gram of coke Ill turn it down because i need 4g, if you invite me for a 1 drink at the bar i´ll order an orage juice coz if I start I need to go to excess......evrything else is a prick tease, ITS NOT THE MEPH PAL .......ITS JUST THE WAY YOUR MIND IS. goodluck!!

 

[Manic Panic]

My monkey recently started using the 'drone' as we call it 'round here, and found that it is so cheap and fun as to lead to a highly addictive habit and it is so easy to procure! Using 2 g's a night a few nights a week is more than common and stopping is hard if any remains. The monkey says if he puts away all paraphernalia associated and takes some benzos, he can break the cycle. Obviously if a 50 g bag is in his cage, he goes balls to the walls. He tends to develop a rash on forearms and feet, maybe a circulation problem? Has anyone's pets had such a reaction, it helps him to see a physical affect that is so unpleasant that stopping is a little easier. The product is clean so the effects are most likely from the 'drone' itself.

 

[Shambles]

Those are pretty common side-effects of meph use for a number of people. Not for their pets though - giving drugs to animals would be animal cruelty so we don't approve of such shenanigans (or SWIMming) here. Those affectations also give no legal protection and make posts really hard to read - the first person is just fine

 

[Fluid0484]

Little better today

Today I didn't start meph until about 8:00 PM. This is very much a personal improvement, as I had been snorting it at work previously. I had much better control of the comedowns tonight. However, the come down control/ease cost me the FULL ON feeling on meph.... like when you do X (or whatever the fuck passes for it these days) but only for 30 minutes. You are a god among men for 30 min.

I believe I used more tonight than I did over 5 extra waking hours yesterday. The dosage was increased, but the bad side effects were lowered (less anxiety on the come down). However, last night and again 'tonight' I will be sleeping quite minimally. That is 5 all nighters over the last 7 days on meph (3 nights were ONLY meph).

So for work, I had this massive financial analysis type thing due first thing Saturday morning... like before 9:00 AM. I have to do them every month, and I dread it every month. It's so mind numbing and tedious. And all I do is located where each page has opportunities, research the 'why' on the issue, and create a measurable plan to fix the number. (Raaaaaaammmmble on). I prefer to be interacting with people on the job and helping them that way.

So - report is due in a meer 12 hours, and my motivation is still lacking from the previous days binge. I end up snorting a few, and had some great self realization moments. I could NOT work in that confined, personal, office I had. So......
I moved my coffee table, a folding chair, my lap top, smokes, and a jug of water out to my top floor balcony. Let me say - GREAT MOVE. It was a very humid day here, so by the time I finally got outside, I was already sweating and ended up sweating more. But finally, a breeze started and then an hour or 2 later it was totally dark and the temp was on it's way down to the 70's. I even got to sit out there through a strong thunder and lightning storm (covered balcony). Needless to say, I got that f-ing report DONE and felt very at peace with things. The quality of it I felt was higher. It took me longer, but that was because if I needed another toot or the cd needed changed and had to keep getting up.

I'm still going here .....:Had some good, fun, positive phone calls tonight. Had a text convo with an old friend. Also, got a chance to wear out/play with my pet dogs (they are young and very energetic). For once I outlasted them.

Other side effects for the night are obviously the not sleeping thing. Also, it is officially a fact that I can not get a boner while on Meph. Lastly, and I do need to take my own advice, is to pop any sort of over the counter pill that makes you drowsy. Once that kicks in with your body, I think it realizes how spent it actually is and just crashes and you sleep like a baby.

Thanks, all.

 

[Fluid0484]

Oh yeah, and I wrote a 5 page poem too.

 

[AmsterTram]

Fluid,

You gotta stop, you are still early enough in it. I have been using and abusing drugs for 20+ years, and meph is an evil motherfucker.

I usually don't recommend this, but go to a Narcotics Anon or Cocaine Anon meeting....I think you need a bit of a shock. I am not saying you need to commit to a life of no drinking like they require, but you could use being around sober people. This board is probably not going to provide you with that support.

You sound like me, with a good job and a gf etc but you are going down a path where you can lose both.

BTW, I finally had my first 4 gram meph binge, and that is enough. I would rather do real coke. The comedown is hell. And quite frankly, meph is too cheap. I do not want to stay up for 30 hours again.

Good luck man.

 

[AmsterTram]

Also, don't fool yourself. PEOPLE are noticing. You can't miss that much sleep and not act differently.

I am surprised you have not had hallucinations from the severe lack of sleep.

 

[Fluid0484]

Ya, I do have to get to an NA meeting... you're right on. I know I'm early enough in, and that's what's fucking freaky about this shit... I again spent last night eating capsule after capsule (my nose was too burnt out... started bleeding out of one nostril). I'm losing interest in 'normal' facets of life pretty quick, and becoming quite agitated on a regular basis.

I'll let you know how the NA goes... I really do want to go and make myself get turned off from this shit.

 

[EFC18]

I never said it was exclusive to the people I described. But, forgive me for being a heartless cunt, I'll still save my passion for people who really know what addiction is, those who are dragged into serious trouble with serious drugs and who have to pay stupid prices to feed their addiction. An addiction that can't simply be stopped by an Act of Parliament, which is what your average meph-head cries out for. Cry being the operative word. Yes I've got more time for smack-head burglars than meph addicts.



I didn't.



For arguments sake, yes, I should have added largely between '(was)' and 'economic'. So strike me down.

Agreeing with you mate, entirely.

 

[AmsterTram]

Ya, I do have to get to an NA meeting... you're right on. I know I'm early enough in, and that's what's fucking freaky about this shit... I again spent last night eating capsule after capsule (my nose was too burnt out... started bleeding out of one nostril). I'm losing interest in 'normal' facets of life pretty quick, and becoming quite agitated on a regular basis.

I'll let you know how the NA goes... I really do want to go and make myself get turned off from this shit.

How are you doing mate?

 

[Xtc <3]

I'm done with this shit forever now hopefully.
I'm not going to make the mistake of buying anymore, when its lying around I just cannot control myself, its line after line after line.
Just need to ride out this comedown, thankfully MDMA is back and I really want to save up the good ol brain juices for it.
Fluid I wish you the best of luck in trying to quit, keep us posted and let us know how your doing

 

[Fluid0484]

Made it out of this bender mostly unscathed. Damn though.... I can't remember the last time I got in to a drug this deep. Hopefully it doesn't cross my path again. I still haven't straightened out my sleeping patterns.

Don't fucking buy this shit in a big amount! It's a feeding frenzy if you do! You've been warned!

 

[ColtDan]

is it fuck. ive had 30 grams sat around before it became illegal, didn't touch it for ages, and when i did eventually do some it was 500mg maximum a once a week on a saturday night over the span of 6 hours. this meph was the best i ever had as well. develop some self control

the side effects of this shit are bad enough to stop anybody with any regard to they're health from abusing this stuff daily, etc... if you abuse it your an idiot