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Mephedrone Addiction

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If you wish to create a thread about your misunderstandings about the reward system and psychological addiction that is fine, but this is not the place.

from the first post in this thread:

there are varying opinions regarding 'psychological addiction', and whether it really exists or not. some of you will maybe feel the need to point out how stupid it is to binge on a research chemical. this thread is not about either of those things. so let's keep it constructive, informative, and supportive, and pool our knowledge on the effects of overconsumption and how to combat it.
 
If you wish to create a thread about your misunderstandings about the reward system and psychological addiction that is fine, but this is not the place.

I'm doing nothing of the sort I'm simply stating mephedrone is not an addictive drug. Don't confuse enjoying something with it being addictive. Sex is enjoyable it is not addictive.
 
from the first post:

this thread is for the discussion of ADDICTION to mephedrone.

there are varying opinions regarding 'psychological addiction', and whether it really exists or not. some of you will maybe feel the need to point out how stupid it is to binge on a research chemical. this thread is not about either of those things. so let's keep it constructive, informative, and supportive, and pool our knowledge on the effects of overconsumption and how to combat it.
 
not the place to discuss this, as i said feel free to create a new thread but all further posts that don't belong in this thread will be removed.
 
is mephedrone the devils spawn

Having found this thread and found it useful and hugely helpful i felt moved to share my experiences with mephedrone. To give you some background I am in my late 30's degree educated holding down a highly professional job. I am a child of the north west rave generation, the late 90's dot com coke boom and an avid drinker.

In all of these times i have managed to use pills coke and booze to excess on a night out with horrible next day consequences but have never ventured to the next day or next week. I was always of the opinion that addiction was something that happened to the "weak and helpless" and no matter what it never bothered me. To that end I can keep a full drinks cabinet with no problem and a couple of grams of coke in a box in my office just for the next time it's needed.

Now on to mephedrone. I was first sold it as "bubble" on a night out and got a great buzz of it somewhere between coke and the original e's a certain other worldness that you don't get from coke. The come down was ok nothing too bad, but I have to admit to thinking about the drug and the experience for a couple of days after bit like a haunting dream on my mind but nothing more. We had more over the next 6 months again probably 4 nights out in total same spooky feeling.

I then discovered it's real name mephedrone, and discovered the ease and cheapness with which it could be bought. I ordered 10g and got amongst it over xmas before i knew it was a line everyday because it leaves you feeling tired and a bump lifts you, also it seemed undetectable from all those around me. once the 10g was done i stopped, i felt panicky and jolting when trying to sleep. Long story short i'd done 20g by the end of Jan and was using everyday even at work.
It was then i realised I had a problem and needed to put on the brakes.

coming off it was difficult and required some real willpower, i felt constantly tired falling asleep in the day with weird little brains zaps and jumps, all day. it took 7 days to properly clear.

I think the addiction potential is as all previous posters have said but it's all of them combined which is the danger
1. it's cheap so you will have bags lying around
2. it's legal you can pay by credit card and have it delivered
3. it's not that mind altering so you can re-dose in normal day time unnoticed
4. especially snorting re-dosing is difficult to stop once you start

so to summarise is mephedrone the devils spawn? probably not but there are a lot of contributing factors that give it a higher addiction potential than most.

be careful
GJ
 
To me, mephedrone definitely has an "addicting" feel to it that is more than just the moreish side of the high. After a few uses, I can feel that during the work week I feel a strong urge to take it, and I swear that I can smell it in certain things which of course makes me want to take it. I have never taken it more than once a week and I hope I never will, because I'm sure this one is both physically and mentally addicting.
I thought it was just me one of the most disconcerting things about meth was that despite being able to smell nothing at all most days there would be moments when all you got was that chemical smell
 
I think the addiction potential is as all previous posters have said but it's all of them combined which is the danger
1. it's cheap so you will have bags lying around
2. it's legal you can pay by credit card and have it delivered
3. it's not that mind altering so you can re-dose in normal day time unnoticed
4. especially snorting re-dosing is difficult to stop once you start

Good points.

I am interested to hear reports of people using this stuff daily and at work though - whenever I've tried the stuff it's been at doses of between 200 to 250mg and there's no way i could do it at work. When you are taking this at work (and it's undetectable to those around you) are you taking much less than this or are you just better at handling yourself in such situations than me (or was it tolerance or something else?).
 
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Yea I must admit I'm puzzled by the stories of people using this at work.

3. it's not that mind altering so you can re-dose in normal day time unnoticed

If I had a 250mg bomb of this at work, the pupils like saucers, non stop chatting and grinding my jaw like a loon would have the boss taking me in the office and asking if I'm OK within 10 minutes.

I don't understand how people can get away with it unnoticed?
 
Yea I must admit I'm puzzled by the stories of people using this at work.



If I had a 250mg bomb of this at work, the pupils like saucers, non stop chatting and grinding my jaw like a loon would have the boss taking me in the office and asking if I'm OK within 10 minutes.

I don't understand how people can get away with it unnoticed?

^ this. unless people are doing very small amounts, or very shit powder meph, i dont see how this can go unnoticed either. as soon as im on the stuff my jaw is clenched and grinding like fuck
 
Yeah, I can't imagine doing this at work. Taking a quarter g capsule gives you a come up like a decent pill, absolutely no way you'd be able to do that unnoticed.

Apologies if this has been brought up already but did no one else find this the most disgusting thing to snort in the world ever? Fucking wrecks your nose, hurts like hell and smells appalling. Given how much better it is swallowed in decent amounts then snorting tiny little lines, I can't really understand why people have got into it from the whole "coke substitute" angle.
 
Yeah, I can't imagine doing this at work. Taking a quarter g capsule gives you a come up like a decent pill, absolutely no way you'd be able to do that unnoticed.

Apologies if this has been brought up already but did no one else find this the most disgusting thing to snort in the world ever? Fucking wrecks your nose, hurts like hell and smells appalling. Given how much better it is swallowed in decent amounts then snorting tiny little lines, I can't really understand why people have got into it from the whole "coke substitute" angle.

i reckon it's one of those cases when the desire to have another line is far above the actual pleasure you ended up getting from it
 
If I had a 250mg bomb of this at work, the pupils like saucers, non stop chatting and grinding my jaw like a loon would have the boss taking me in the office and asking if I'm OK within 10 minutes.

I don't understand how people can get away with it unnoticed?

Easy - small bumps, snorted. ;)

The jaw-clenching and pupil dilation are side-effects that I have only really noticed after using the lower-quality stuff. Having said that, I have not tried any large oral doses of the stuff. Furthermore, I didn't really get hose effects after using MDMA either.
 
Apologies if this has been brought up already but did no one else find this the most disgusting thing to snort in the world ever? Fucking wrecks your nose, hurts like hell and smells appalling. Given how much better it is swallowed in decent amounts then snorting tiny little lines, I can't really understand why people have got into it from the whole "coke substitute" angle.

I suppose it depends on what you're using it for. Personally, I find the short duration and 'instant' hit of snorting much more desirable. Again, using the good quality product, that does not smell, I have not had any problems with my nose. Haven't found it any more painful than anything else I have put up there! :)
 
mephedrone experience

Hi guys,

Have been reading Bl for a while and am quite alarmed by how many people are getting into mephedrone and consider it to be a new wonder drug, so I wanted to share my most recent experience with the research chemical. It isn't a detailed trip report I'm afraid, as my memory of the event is extremely poor (this is one of the side effects I experience). I'm not sure which forum it would be best suited to.

I've taken mephedrone a few times before, when going out to clubs or raves, and have always enjoyed it. It has a nice, euphoric high, makes me extremely sociable and chatty and full of energy - very handy for the recent MDMA drought. It has a short duration (I usually take 250mg in gel caps and I find the euphoria lasts between 1 and 3 hours - when I snort it the peak wears off within 30 mins). The down sides were needing to take more in a night to keep me buzzing for long enough (started with one 250mg dose, most recently took 3 spaced out over the night), poor memory of the night, difficulty getting to sleep, bruxism, frequent urination and increased heart rate. I have not experienced palpitations. To me these did not seem to be too bad when compared to other stimulant drugs.

However, this is where things started to go a bit wrong. Last Wednesday I was in my room by myself in the afternoon, and was bored, so I decided to have a cheeky little line of mephedrone from one of my gel caps (approximately 50mg). The high hit almost immediately, and I spent a very happy 30 mins chatting to friends on the internet. After the peak started to wear off I thought I might as well have another one, as I had nothing to do for the rest of the day. This is when things took a turn for the worse. I could not stop redosing. I cracked open 3 gelcaps (750mg in total) and did not stop until about 8am the following morning, when my nose was too blocked to insufflate any more. I was desperate for another dose - I went to the shop and bought some nasal decongestant, tried snorting multiple thin lines instead of one fat one (by this time the lines had got pretty fat) but I had to admit defeat. When I came to my senses I was horrified - I had not planned to do this at all as I had things I needed to do on Thursday. I couldn't understand how it had happened, and my memory was so hazy to the point of honestly not knowing how I filled those hours (other than snorting meph, of course).

It alarmed me how compulsive the mephedrone has been, and I was very upset with myself for being so weak. I was also feeling pretty under the weather by this point. However - and this is the really scary part - I still went online and ordered myself another 5g. I resoned that I had to replace the gelcaps so I could take them on a night out, and 5g was more economical than a smaller amount. I then went to sleep and awaited the arrival of my package, missing out on a social evening I had been really looking forward to.

When the bag arrived on Friday lunchtime (I had to think very hard about which day is which, my memory is atrocious for the whole period of time) I convinced myself I had better have just one small line to check out the new batch - and didn't stop until Saturday. I slept most of Sat, then again began taking it on Sunday afternoon. Luckily I managed to stop myself at about 10pm as I had a very important meeting on Monday, but this took phenomenal willpower, and obviously I had already taken too much and would not be in a good state of mind for the meeting. I got through about 4g over the weekend, plus 750mg from my gel caps. My instinct is that this mephedrone I ordered on Thursday wasn't very pure - it was a lot cheaper than the stuff I bought previously, and it didn't have as strong an effect, but it may well be that my tolerance was pretty high after doing it the day before. I am aware that I have taken an extremely large and potentially very dangerous amount, and am appalled at my stupidity.

I have not admitted this to anyone. I had a lot of things planned for the days I lost, so I told all my friends I had a nasty cold. My nose was bleeding, my heart was racing, I no longer got a euphoric high, just a mild lift, but I still found it almost impossible to stop redosing. I am a reasonably sensible girl who did a lot of reading about this drug, and understood that it was a research chemical, and had previousaly decided to take it no more often than once a month and no more than 3 gel caps in one night. I have never had anything like this happen to me before. I do not blame the drug as such - it may be that I have a fiendish nature which I have not uncovered before - but as other people also find this drug extremely moreish, I wanted to let people know what happened to me. I thought I could handle it - had taken it several times before and not had a huge urge to redose - but there you go.

In my opinion, whatever your feelings are regarding addiction, mephedrone has the potential to become a very regular feature in a user's life. In my opinion this is due to the cheapness and ease of availabiliy, enjoyable nature of the high, short duration and urge to redose. People can get hold of vast quantities for not very much money by next day delivery, legally, and may be unaware of the potential dangers of this drug. I would suggest that if you do wish to take it, you do not snort it, you only buy small quantities and make sure you do not have any hanging around at home, you leave fairly long periods between taking it, and you read up on the potential dangers on this forum!

Just be careful, guys, stay safe and be aware that it is more than possible to go overboard with this drug. I won't be touching it again.

Sorry for such a long post, I wanted to explain exactly how it happened to me so other people might recognise the same thing happening to them.
 
Cheers RR :)

effie I've moved your post here.

Welcome to Bluelight and EADD - Take care and be safe <3
 
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Update - very ashamed to say I polised off the rest today, after all my distress about being so bloody stupid over the weekend. I told myself better to remove it from my room so I'm not tempted, so I'd be doing myself a favour by having it. What twisted logic. Didn't let myself consider throwing it away! But I haven't bought any more, and it is going to stay that way. I hope.
 
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