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Mephedrone Addiction

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7zark7 said:
Scare stories are the least effective way of making someone stop doing something harmful, IMO. Just ask the Government!
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You could be right. I know that when i was starting out on drugs reading some of the scarier negative trip reports for a variety of different substances on bluelight and erowid encouraged me to try and avoid repeating them myself (and discouraged me from even thinking about taking datura) - but i was very aware that these were stories from other people and not from the government as i went looking for them myself.

Sticking a bunch of bluelight print outs in front of him whilst he's off his head on mephedrone probably wouldn't work.
 
^^^Plus, alot of people(myself included) have never experience one single side effect or hangover from mephedrone, so reading bad reports and seeing purple knees doesn't hit home with people as much as seeing the bad effects first hand. If any one of my friends ever had anything bad happen to them because of meph, I might discontinue use.
 
The first time I had mephedrone the realisation about how big a nob i'd been and the impulse to get more which came about just after the peak had subsided was enough to make me sceptical about doing it again.. the other times I've done it I've found that mephedrone has become less enjoyable each time and the after effects have become even more pronounced, the worst MDMA come down has nothing on how shit I've felt after Meph. I've not had any in two months, though I never bought any in bulk which really doesn't help for alot of people. A friend of mine bought a third a kilo and was able to shift it within two weeks.
 
I would probably suggest similar things to 7zark7. In a relatively sober moment just challenge him (in a friendly non-confrontational style). To be doing that amount and not realize he's addicted he's pretty deep in.
Maybe suggest he takes a week off, just so he can remember what its like not being droned up all the time. If he starts to have cravings within the break (and lets face it he will, probably within a few hours of his last dose) then you can help him understand that he has become dependent and needs to address the problem.
Hope its all ok
 
This is one of BL's best harm reduction threads :) Especially with such a fairly new n' unregulated RC in the UK.

Angelsmoke and mugabe are to be congratulated for sharing in this - what has been hard times for them with this "unknown" addiction and I'm so pleased to hear they are getting over it and "re-living" after this one :|

Adsy, it also can't be easy for you as the friend who is having to stand back and watch someone you care about destroying and deluding themselves :(

It's easy for you to see this, but as you have noted, your friend is in the delusion stage - very frustrating for you. I've lost people so very close to me from addictions, it's heartbreaking as a bystander and the loss of them and my helplessness to intervene will haunt me and will never leave me.

You friend is lucky they have you - hold on in there and do your best, but realize this is their journey, and the lessons they have to learn may be sore :|
 
Adsy said:
Hey everybody,

This is my first post so please forgive me if it's in the wrong place or hideously off-topic.

I was wondering if you could give me some advice about something; I have a friend who I think is getting seriously addicted to drone and I have no idea what to do about it.

Basically I'm at university living with the guy. Last year our whole bunch starting using meph pretty regularly on the weekends but most of us have stopped after suffering the good effects less and less and the bad effects worse and worse. Personally I got vicious little comedowns that lasted for days and just generally felt shit. I've now been off the stuff for a couple of months.

The thing is my friend (let's refer to him as James) was buying in bulk and dealing while we were out or to other students, and where most of our buddies are off drone he's still doing more and more. He'll stay up for days and must be getting through almost 10Gs a week. The money isn't a problem because he's making so much from selling it. The whole thing just seems absurd to me though. We'll all have plans for the weekend and he'll stay up all night wednesday and thursday just sitting around redosing. Or he'll have a load of work to do and instead of doing it will just keep using. His nose is absolutely fucked it's always bleeding and he doesn't even seem to get high or have fun on drone. I love the guy he's one of my best friends but he's never himself recently.

I've talked to James about it and he claims that he's not addicted and could stop anytime. Also his primary excuse is that apparently he never gets the same bad effects everyone else does. We all stopped because of the comedowns but he doesn't comedown anywhere near as hard or feel worried about the fact his heart must be getting totalled 6 nights a week. Therefore, why should he stop if it allows him to stay up for days and he doesn't get bad effects? So his argument goes.

What do you guys think I should do? This last week he was up all night Saturday on drone, stayed awake til Sunday night, then on Monday was back on the drone through to Tuesday night. Got a few hours sleep on Tuesday then started using at 9am (?!) on Wednesday and stayed awake for about 48 hours. Should I be worried for him? It seems like I should be but he's a tricky person to argue with and like I said, he claims he enjoys it and gets no bad effects.

Apologies for the long post.

Thanks for any help.
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You should really push the "unresearched" aspect of it. I reckon if you put a pro-drug spin on it he will be more receptive :/ x
 
Thanks for all the advice everybody.

You're right it is very frustrating. Pretty much everybody but him agrees that he has a problem and that it's a bad idea and not cool to do loads of meph everyday. It seems obvious really.

He's had some bad effects like the kind of sleep-paralysis thing somebody else mentioned but I think it will take something very serious to actually make him consider his use an issue.
 
Man it is soo scary to see how VASTLY different drugs effect different people! All of these horror stories about meph....purple knees, brutal comedown, hangover..wtf? I have these issues with methylone as it makes me feel "off" for abot 3 days after which involves mood swings, sleepiness,etc. My friends and I had always viewed meph as a super clean, almost flawless high although it is nothing compared to MDMA, but the lack of ill after effects make it my first choice for a weekend party high. After reading so many addiction stories one of my BL friends isn't partying anymore :( but good for him.
 
Thank you for posting this thread. I have regularly read Bluelight, but this is the first time I have felt the need to register.
I think I may have a problem with Mephedrone. I don't know if I would call it an addiction. It is certainly not a physical addiction, but is costing me more socialy and financialy than it should and is having an impact on my work life with lost days to work.
I really don't know where to start. Without giving away too much information, I work in the health field and never really thought I would be caught out like this. I know that the drug isn't my only problem and someone with a different personality may be more able to enjoy this drug without the problems. I just want to share my experience.
I started off last year with small anounts, but im taking more and more at more inappropriate times than i should. Also with the introductions of more almost instant delivery services and groups of people around me that the drug is more acceptable to, it's becoming too easy.
To be honest, Im waiting for a delivery to my door now.
I find the come down easier to cope with that other drugs too. Except the emotional stuff, but im putting that down to the amount I am taking.
I have used drugs over the past 20 years. I like them, but can take or leave them usualy, including alcohol.
I will see to this 'problem' before it gets much worse. I do not want to moralise.
BUT THIS DRUG CAN HURT YOU...and just like textbook it can creep up on it and before you know it, you're me, having to deal with something that was just fun to begin with. Go easy.
 
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Is Mephedrone really addictive or is it just "addictive" cos it's a tenner a gram?

If it was £60 a gram how many posts would we be getting saying "i'm hooked on meph"?

Is meph addictive or is the price addictive?
 
Its addictive to those who are prone to addiction.

You wouldn't expect coke to be addictive when its cut to shit and expensive, but it is.
 
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That's simply not true. It's addictive in people who take cocaine many, many times on a regular basis. And even then it's only true for a tiny fraction of users. It is not addictive for people who use it moderately.
 
that's not really how psychological addiction works though is it? you're making out like people have to make a conscious effort to become psychologically addicted to anything.
 
So we agree cocaine isn't addictive unless you take it on a massive regular basis.

Can you think of anything pleasant that isnt addictive if you take it every day on a massive scale? Sex? Masturbation?
 
look, this thread is for support for people who are having problems with mephedrone, this is not the place for this debate at all, any further posts not fitting in with the purpose of this thread will be removed.
 
mephedrone is definatly addictive, but the price really dosnt help the matter. im not addicted to it my self i havnt even taken as much as 5gs in total. however the next couple of days after doing it im constantly thinking about it and if it wasnt for the fact its so bad for you i woud definatly get a lot more of it.

im quite sure that if the price was put up to £50 a g most of the problems we are seeing with it woud stop. no one woud do 5gs of it in a weekend if it was gona cost them £250 i dont reckon. i reckon the price of it is whats attracting the kids to it.

instead of the goverment making it illegal i reckon they shoud some how put a minimal price on selling it, say no less than £40 a g. im sure most people woud stop abusing it then and you woud definatly see less people bcoming "addicted" to it then.
 
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