Meph and mdpv

[Buckeyeguy]

I believe I'm in the right forum( I also believe other things) here goes



I have been binging on " bath salts" for a couple of days now... I have read and read and read about the chemicals and tried to educate myself so I wouldn't become addicted. I haven't used large doses, but I have insufflated almost every time. I found smoking meph just didn't work. Anyway at this point I'm not high, I'm coming down harshly and I had to take a klonopin to stop from shaking. The reason for this post is as follows. I have a big problem here, I obviously don't have more, and I need it. You all may say that I don't and I will even agree but I DO. The past few hours i have barely escaped doing horrible things and having horrible thoughts due to the lack of the salts and the come down. I'm sure this makes absolutely no sense but I am going to be in trouble soon... I know this and I don't want anymore but I have to( I'm sure everyone knows the feeling) I have used coke and MDMA in the past and easily put it down and continued my life. I have no idea why I am thinking about anyway possible to get this including but not limited to harming myself and others, but I just have to have it. I am not an addict, never have been luckily, but I believe these RCs have flipped the script on me. As I'm typing I am shaking so bad I want to jump out in the street and get hit by a car or something so I don't want to snort more. I don't feel suicidal as a matter of fact I don't feel anything but the need for more "salt". I don't know what to do as I have never found myself in this position and I think I'm going to take a walk and try to find some way to get some. My local smoke shop has it but they're closed. I have been considering breaking in there for hours! Luckily my wife hid my pistol or else I would have been in trouble already. I am broke until Thursday and have no idea what's going to happen in the meantime. I actually slept last night very well due to the firs klonopin. Tonight however it hasn't affected me at all... Just made me a little dopey. I can't think or imagine what I'm going to do and I truly hope I don't die as I do not want to. But the devil has his horns in my eyes or something, and I can't even feel anything I don't care about anything now or from the minute I snorted the first line( I had bought some coke then later purchased the salts to help take the edge off the comedown). I stupidly thought "it's legal it'll be fine". Well obviously it is far worse. I don't know what to do but needed to share with someone. My wife is going to divorce me now too because I can't manifest enough emotion to pretend to care, but I want to... My doctor is out of office for a week or else I would go to him in the morning or at least try, so my only option is to use more! Needless to say I'm gonna go to jail prolly... At least there aren't many withdrawal symptoms! If anyone can help me out with advice or else please feel free I need it!

What's funny to me is the fact that as with other drugs I know it's bad and I can muster up the strength to leave it alone and not do stupid things, it's the same way with the salts but I just simply don't want to, lol I feel like shit and I'm enjoying it, I'm enjoying walking in the cold with shorts on even though I'm freezing balls... I don't really need to ingest anymore but I'm going to because I HAVE TO lol the worst part about this all is that I have a decent stress free( mostly) life and I would consider myself intelligent but nothing matters right now! I hate it but I love it and leving to go find some wish me luck!

 

[Cane2theLeft]

I think this is better suited for the dark side forum so we'll try this over there but if you can, please just break up that wall of text into paragraphs a few lines each, it makes it much easier to read.

---->TDS

 

[Buckeyeguy]

Copy that sir! I honesty don't have any cares right now so bear with me haha
Didn't mean to post yet woops, just wanted to give an update ....and I still dont feel anything I just left a house where the door happened to be unlocked ( or? I don't remember ...) I don't know how to open a locked door so yeah


Um lets see I am almost to the smoke shop still hoping to find a way in ... There is no other way! This is all so fake feeling, I know the consequences but I don't give a shit lol. I'm not laughing but I type lol because it seems fitting?

I have about an hour to get my hands on some of this stuff or I won't be ok. I think.

On the plus side I'm able to feel the cold now and my body is in a good bit of pain( mainly due to lying in bed staring at the ceiling earlier and not moving for 4 hours)
And I think I'm starting to have an idea of how
Much more of it I want to snort when I get it!


One last thing can anyone shed some light on what makes me want this SO bad? And if there is something else I can snort that won't get me hooked but make me feel the same or better.... At this point gonna be binging for a while let's hope they don't have an alarm cus I don't want to be without my love

 

[Buckeyeguy]

Alright I have been informed by someone that is apparently not fucked like me to take it easy... I am not going to post again until sober ( hopefully it won't be soon ! I think I will wither away without my wonderluv). That's what I'm gonna call it cause it's fitting

 

[bodhisattvaeimaj]

I'm sure it's largely psychological. Any drug that gives you an intense euphoric feeling will do this. I had a friend from the military that brought back a large supply of morphine after he was discharged for injuries. He handed it out to me and my friends like candy for a couple months and then disappeared on a crack binge. I went through some pretty decent withdrawal for only being on morphine for two months, but for months afterward I couldn't get that desire for the feeling of euphoria out of my head.

My advice would be to quit now - I've heard that the longer and the more of this stuff you do - the worse the negative effects become. There are some horror stories coming out about this drug and it seems like you have to be a zen master not to abuse this stuff.

 

[theartofwar]

the longer you stay on the more rationalizing you do the harder the kick. Please do as OD advised - stay home , stay safe.

 

[rickolasnice]

Welcome to the come down?

Just eat something and go to sleep you'll feel better when you wake up..

 

[Nexus Viper]

Don't take an urge to re-dose for an addiction. Who gets addicted in two days ? (well, maybe some can, but that's because it's their will) The thing is very compulsive, and some seem to have got really addicted, but I don't think you did, in such short period of time.

 

[jobenrush]

All these posts are the TROOF. I think I have pretty good self control but holy shit Meph will make you think crazy thoughts just to get more. Really all you have to do is try to sleep it off then you'll stop thinking like that, at least not as intensely.

 

[ektamine]

All these posts are the TROOF. I think I have pretty good self control but holy shit Meph will make you think crazy thoughts just to get more. Really all you have to do is try to sleep it off then you'll stop thinking like that, at least not as intensely.

Agreed. Many of the cathinones have a mysteriously strong compulsion to them. I consider it to be a disproportionately strong compulsion, considering the actual highs that they produce. A good example is where you mentioned you have experimented with cocaine and MDMA, two extremely euphoric highs, and had very little trouble leaving them behind. Meph and MDPV produce enjoyable highs, definitely, but FAR worse compulsion then I would expect.

After binging on MDPV and running out, you could usually find me on my carpet with a flashlight scouring the fibers for misplaced granules
Put me to sleep, and the next day I will generally be ok with my sobriety. Sleep Sleep Sleep! Its the most important factor in beating the cravings, for me

Remember, like the high, the comedown is short-lived.
Good luck my friend.

 

[craigyt2k]

nasty set of drugs, quit while you can mate, dont let yourself be a slave to this drug, your stronger than that, things will get better soon, have some food, bath, watch a movie. smoke some weed if you have too, just dont go getting more or your just gonna get worse.

 

[Mehm]

no update I guess.... I hope everyone is ok. Glad I never tried any of this shit..it sounds terrible

 

[SececaRD]

Oh My.. After seeing this post ill never try that stuff.. sounds horrible.. thanks for sharing

 

[bhamster]

TBH, I think that this post, like many others in here, are just anti-drug propaganda trying to scare people from using substances. I'd have more respect if they were up front about their convictions rather than creating sensational stories of desperation.

I'm not saying that some people don't run into problems with dependency and I am quite aware that, in fact, drugs can turn lives upside down -- but after 2 days, really?

If this is the case, then there are some issues beyond the meph for this person.

My bad if my gut is wrong on this. If so, good luck and understand that you can be feeling fine in a day or two if you just choose to stop. Go to a diner, chow down, smoke a few bowls and sleep it off.

 

[Dedbeet]

Don't take an urge to re-dose for an addiction.

I agree... "wanting to redose in the midst of a binge" can look like addiction to the one wanting to redose, and even more to those hearing what they have to say. And oftentimes it really isn't addiction but straight-up compulsion that subsides without much of a problem once the binge is over with. Not to say it isn't a bad situation while it's in process... it can be really bad news. Just not permanent... very temporary.

Meph and MDPV produce enjoyable highs, definitely, but FAR worse compulsion then I would expect.

It's that blind focus on dopamine, IMO, without any tempering influence from serotonin or norepinephrine reuptake inhibition. At least with MDPV.

The irony is that it probably makes the high a good deal safer physically (for your heart, organs, circulation, etc) while it thrashes hell out of your mind. I couldn't even imagine binging on cocaine for days straight the way I have with e.g. MDPV... it's way harder on the body, and at some point physical sickness would bring about a collapse (while you could still be binging merrily away on MDPV).

 

[Nib]

^I take it you have never been on a binge before where stopping isn't an option, where you do ANYTHING for the next one? Nah, its reality man, not some sort of complex propaganda. Many of us take that first one and its a non-stop endeavor to keep getting more and more

I'm glad you have never personally experienced this before but for many it is a painful reality

The Truth

My friends don't understand either since they can split a 20 bag of coke between the 2 of them for the night, and i have to go on $300 2-3 day binges.

MDPV is fucking evil though. I went on my biggest binge with it, and started sniffing coke when I ran out.

Mephedrone could be very very nice though. I learned my lesson about not binging on it after the first one and it's a hell of a lot easier to control and honestly way better than mdpv and most coke.

 

[Dedbeet]

Mephedrone could be very very nice though. I learned my lesson about not binging on it after the first one and it's a hell of a lot easier to control and honestly way better than mdpv and most coke.

Maybe it's just me, but I've run into a lot more talk that looks like "serious, long term addiction" with mephedrone than I have with MDPV, as well as more related physical problems that look like they could be really bad. So beware "surface appearances"... when it feels really nice, light, no problem, awesome etc. is when the problems could be creeping up on you.

 

[Nib]

Maybe it's just me, but I've run into a lot more talk that looks like "serious, long term addiction" with mephedrone than I have with MDPV, as well as more related physical problems that look like they could be really bad. So beware "surface appearances"... when it feels really nice, light, no problem, awesome etc. is when the problems could be creeping up on you.

Well Binge for Binge, MDPV probably does indeed not fuck your Head up as bad as Mephedrone. The actual toxicity of the chemicals Mephedrone is worse without a doubt. I'm just talking as far as being able to have a good time and not binge out, Mephedrone wins for sure.

I'm actually on Mephedrone right now. I took 250mg at Noon (2 1/2 hours ago) I have 25g's of it sitting right in front of me, but I have no urge to re-dose. I would like to, but I plan on going out later and taking a little more so I can control myself and not have to do it now. If i was on MDPV/Coke and had 25g's of either sitting in front of me, forget about it I'd be up for a week.

 

[Dedbeet]

Well Binge for Binge, MDPV probably does indeed not fuck your Head up as bad as Mephedrone. The actual toxicity of the chemicals Mephedrone is worse without a doubt. I'm just talking as far as being able to have a good time and not binge out, Mephedrone wins for sure.

I'm actually on Mephedrone right now. I took 250mg at Noon (2 1/2 hours ago) I have 25g's of it sitting right in front of me, but I have no urge to re-dose. I would like to, but I plan on going out later and taking a little more so I can control myself and not have to do it now. If i was on MDPV/Coke and had 25g's of either sitting in front of me, forget about it I'd be up for a week.

Yeah, I hear ya... I'm sure there are good/bad points to both drugs. Despite MDPV's binge-y nature, there's something to be said for its "what you see is what you get, straight up" type nature as well, IMO. Overdoing any stim is going to do nasty things to your mind and body.

In any case, we're talking two stims that are about to disappear from the "easy availability" category in the U.S. and become more risky to acquire through the mail too... hopefully anyone with a stash will treat it more responsibly and less like a toy, considering.

P.S. I hear methylone should survive the current RC scrutiny in the U.S., which is interesting... now there's some pleasant, light enjoyment that no one could really binge on or overdo.