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Mental Kenny, One Week in Intensive Care, Almost Dead, Diphenidine, Warning-Achtung!!

This is why i'm really adamant about touching these chemicals off these RC vendors, way too many cowboys in the field and most of their websites are very amatuer which generally spells doom. I cant believe your alive man its good your taking it as a wake up call
 
Dark one mate, I've had a couple of near fatal ODs and escaped with no lating damage. All thebest.

This is one of the reasons Itend to stick with traditionals (although the worst ones granted).
 
I've never heard of half of those drugs you took Ken but glad you pulled through.
 
It could be anyone of us, from now on i'm gonna start checking stuff, next time i get MDMA im testing it 110 percent. I remember when i was 16-17 i got a few fake white mitsubishi's i took 2 and nothin happened it could of been anything though. I admit that was proper thick of me my mate reckoned they were just paracetamol lol
 
Shit mate, glad you've come through the other side of it. Your drug worker sounds top as well. Good luck anyway man hope stuff is lookin up <3
 
Found a wee bit of kratom, enough for a large teaspoon and two small ones. Will be back at square one tomorrow. But at least I'm making the cold sweats fuck off, at least for the afternoon. Very stupid and short sighted of me, but if I weren't all about instant gratification without thinking about the consequences then I would have never allowed myself to become an addict in the first place.

Caturdays are for feeling good. Sundays are for shitting yourself and sweating the fat off your soul.
 
Same vendor that Garden NBOMe from an other well known forum used for EPH, Flubromazepam and he was waiting for some MXP shortly before his death.
 
Can't be much more specific, but you can google the name, it seems that more people have died from their products. I don't know if this happens often or if this is something that happens with other vendors, maybe it's a coincidence, but this instantly reminded me of him. I will remove my post if it isn't relevant.
 
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Mental Kenny said:
Basically my muscle tissue had melted and had gone to fill up my kidneys, the doctor said it was a miracle my kidneys were saved.
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A process called rhabdomyolysis which can be triggered by almost all recreational drugs.

Mental Kenny said:
They sent out the diphenidine bag my parents found next to my bed, the current batch(from UK), it's packed full of nephrotic by products, parent compound and untreated precursor or so the local authorities said. That's why I almost lost my kidneys.
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Now you're saying the impurities directly killed your kidneys. This is sort of contradicting the former statement. I don't see the impurities in half a gram of drug do direct damage to your kidneys to such an extent.

Is it possible to request the analysis of the substance, a summary of the clinical findings and diagnosis made and share them with us? They have to hand those out to you. It's these events that the community can really learn from. Depending on who was treating you, they might be writing an article on the case anyway, but it would be huge if you could go through the trouble to get that data and post it here.

Your liver is probably gonna recover just fine, don't worry about that too much.

How much kidney function are you left with now? Really sorry to hear about those, your life will most definitely not be the same anymore. Hopefully not only in respect to your nephrotic health though, but also when it comes to your substance abuse. Be aware that rhabdomyolysis does not happen exclusively in diphenidine intoxications, it is an adverse reaction to almost all recreational drugs! Here are a few examples:

Comparison of prevalence and severity of rhabdomyolysis in stimulant users:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25468315

Synthetic cannabinoid causing rhabdomyolysis:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25179201

Case report of LSD causing rhabdomyolysis:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20587768

You get the idea, there really isn't any synthetic recreational drug that cannot cause rhabdomyolysis. So you should neither entertain your illusion that other drugs will be safe to use in respect to adverse affects such as this, nor should you blame it all on diphenidine. However, it might be more likely to happen with said substance than with other dissociatives, but it's tough to attain reliable data on that without having an idea of the prevalence of diphenidine use.

As your drug worker said, it would be really really nice if you could give us the data I mentioned, so we can get a better picture of what exactly happened to you.

Thanks a lot for the report. I hope you manage to cope well enough with this!

EDIT: Btw, why are we all blaming this on the diphenidine? It's been shown before that rhabdomyolysis is not only more likely to occur when multiple substances have been used, but can also be triggered by stimulant use alone.
Half a gram of ethylphenidate sounds like a lot. Unless there are specific impurities that are highly likely to cause such a reaction, I don't see why we are blaming the diphenidine. Not saying we should look at diphenidine as being safer than it seems after what happened, but we should at least raise our scepticism towards said stimulant as well.

Oh and here is an overview on which agents are most commonly causing RM. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24397200
This reminded me that I once, too, had moderate RM with a CK of 1534. It was triggered by n,n-diisopropyltryptamine and 1,4-butanediol. Didn't think I had a 30% chance of dying then lol. Bad luck I guess. ;)


Scotsman said:
The horn factor and immense diving boardesque hard on’s the next day were unbelievable…..never experienced anything like it.
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You, too? Makes MDPV and booze seem like a joke. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if diphenidine ever had me go on a baby raping spree. PCP used to do this to me, too, btw.
 
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Interesting, i thought the whole thing was a little odd. If there was a batch as lethal as Kenny says then you would expect to see it plastered on daily mail or at least more news on it (i know its not a party drug, but still). End of the day you do drugs your taking a gamble you do research chems you are increasing the odds of you damaging yourself let alone abusing the things. You all do realize the Chinese mentality is just make a quick buck, another reason i would avoid RC's.
 
ive never had any problems till this year with rc and o.ding bar ur144 sticking me hospital a couple of years back but this is one of the very first to hospitalize me at the begin of the year almost killed me even though i ended up just walking out unlike kenny
 
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That's the scary thing, we nearly lost Kenny to it too :( Thank fuck that didn't happen.

Kenny, its taken me ages to post here to you as I didn't want to come on and be all slap your face Italian-Scot's mama, but that's how I felt. I wanted to scream and shout in your face about how stupid and spoilt you were but at the same time cry and hug you because you were still alive and ok. Grrrr, you boys. I have boys, I'm a mother, I'm a drug user - it gets confused, but I'm sure you'll know what I mean <3

I spent some time in Dolceacqua in September and thought of you then - wondered if this was your kinda land you know? Lovely place, I felt right at home there - cooked, ate, drank and mingled with the locals. It made me think of you.

Hope your on your way back to health. Lesson learnt and all that... <3;)
 
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its almost took me a few months back but instead i got lucky and had a reset instead of dropping dead
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It is so important for you to be so very careful with these Rc's Mr Gold, you have your health to consider. I'm so glad you got lucky. Try not to rely on luck though next time please for me steer clear! It would be awful otherwise. OK x
 
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