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[Mega]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion

As far as the popular "Smoking Blends" I can't stand the idiotic names and shadiness as to what is actually in the contents. I totally agree with chainer about going with the pure chemical over the blends. Better price wise and maybe better for your peace of mind considering you know what is in it.

Also i recently tried JWH-019, I started off really cautiously smoking about 1mg vapes at intervals of 10 minutes. After 7mg I was buzzing nicely but my heart rate was higher then I felt comfortable with, guess JWH's aren't something im gong to continue looking into, MJ never gave me such noticeable tachycardia
 
What gives you that idea? I said if you want to make your own "smoking blend" you must dissolve it in IAP, or Acetone. Which are perfectly safe to use as long as you handle it with care and wear a mask (and wait for it to completely dry).

It will dissolve in water just fine for an oral dosage, but it won't work out well if you just dilute it in water and spray it onto herbs... you need to use one of the solutions mentioned above instead.

wouldnt toluene work too? as long as its evaporated, heck there is already levels of toluene in regular ciggarette smoke.
 
There's no reason to mix the two in one bowl. You don't want to apply direct flames to JWH-018.

Just out of curiosity, why do say this? Would it be possible health risks associated with smoking it, or that you feel it wouldn't be as effective means of consumption/might burn the powder and destroy the jwh?

If for health reasons, what specific problems would you be concerned with; i know there is not much information on these chemicals, but I have been doing alot of JWH smoking recently. It seems to be the most effective way to consume JWH-073 for me, but im not particularly skilled with vaporizing. I much prefer JWH-018 orally though.
 
Holy thread resurrection from the grave, batman.

Nauseous, take the questions to our MEGA synthetic thread where this has already been discussed in much deeper length.

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I tried "spice" for the first time a couple weeks ago, and i just recieved some jwh. I find the jwh a much more pleasurable high, and one hit will allways put me in a great spot.
 
Well, I just read through this entire thread - lordy! I love the 18 but I sure hate the tolerance that comes with it. I smoke the pure powder over mullien leaf in a water pipe. If I can make a gram last 5 days I consider myself lucky - I smoke the shit outta the stuff. I've tried the 073, rc-4 and rc-8 and wasn't impressed at all.

I'm substituting this for weed cuz I'm sick of smoking the mex swag that's here. I love not coughing! 018 ROCKS!
 
Synthetic Cannabinoid Hallucinations

This specifically deals with JWH-018

After ordering a few grams of this easily available RC, I have gained a lot more experience with the synthetic cannabinoids. My story:
12:30am, and I am still up tinkering with some music I am making, I was already buzzed and I decided I'd vape some JWH off some foil and hit the sheets for a good night sleep since I had school in the morning.

Now previously, I had been smoking tons of this and had actually hadn't been fully sober in almost 5 days, always taking little tokes off the tin to get me where I love to be, so I had what I called a developing tolerance. I placed about twice, maybe 3 times more than I usually do, (estimated around 40-50mg) and ripped it, then layed down and I could already feel the effects within seconds. "This is gonna be a god night sleep...:)"

Within about 10 seconds of laying down while staring at my ceiling, the pillow I lay my head on in my peripherals turns into a person's white Tshirt and the next thing I know my friend and his friend are looking down at me telling me I needed to get up. I was really confused already because...well...I layed down and now theres someone in my house. At first I thought my friends snuck into my room somehow, but this made no sense. My friend said, "You need to get up NOW! His parents are home! LETS GO! Get up!". I said out loud "What are you talking about? I'm in my room..." and my friend replied "Uhhhh no you are not, you are hella baked, get up!" So I was freaking out and I start arguing with him saying "WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!?! I AM IN MY ROOM, I JUST SMOKED AND LAYED DOWN!!!!" and he shook his head. I scratched my pillow which was his white tshirt at the same time somehow and said "Why does that sound like a different cloth material when I scratch it?" Then i picked up my bar stool and said "Why is my bar stool here then?" and he told me I wasn't holding anything. I grabbed my cellphone and turned on the screen light and went to shine it on his face to only see the whole entire delusional world disappear the moment the light from my phone hit his face revealing my pillow. I looked around my room, still higher than hell thinking to myself wtf just happened, I quickly laid back down looking at my ceiling with my cell pointed towards where i was looking, then as soon as my cell light clicked off, I was in the world again. my friend I guess get's impatient and calls his friend over to me. My friend tells him "He keeps saying he's in his room or some sh*t, he's trippin out and he's hella stoned" and the guy looks at me and shakes his head and says "No...just get up and let's go" and I tell him "no this isnt real, trust me, I'm staying here" and he stares at me hard and yells "get up!" and shoves me and he keeps shoving me over and over and I can actually feel him shoving me, so I bury my head into my pillow and repeat "This isnt real, this isnt real, this isnt real..." as I feel him shoving me and him yelling at me in my head. Then for whatever reason he backs off and leaves and once again its just me and my friend in the room. The trip continues in the similar manner and last for about an hour after dosing (1:30am) and I know this because I could always look at my phone no matter how much of a different world I was in.


My question:
Why does this happen? I told a friend about it the next day and he tried doing the same thing and he claims to have hallucinated in a very similar manner as me the last 2 nights in a row by smoking when you are just about to go to sleep. Has anyone ever had anything similar to this? I have had similar hallucinations to this during the daytime off smaller amounts.

Yet another story:
I saw my friends hand waving infront of my face when i was looking down and when I went to look at him, I could still see the waving hand in the same spot but its now in the corner of my vision, then I noticed "Wait...both of his hands are on the steering wheel, so what the hell was that!..." and I go to go look back at the hand and it was gone.
 
JWH-081 vs JWH-250

For those who have tried both, which do you prefer? How would you describe the difference between the two? I understand that 81 is a benzoylindole and 250 is a phenylacetylindole but I have no experience with JWH so that means nothing to me.
 
250 is trippier... more anxiogenic... definitely feels like a couchlock stone and I've heard of people blacking out after doing too much of that one. 081 is much milder and is more of an anxiolytic, doesn't last as long, and you don't really feel stoned - 019/081/250 would be a good combo though.
 
I love jwh-250......it is like an exotic hydro....but a bit stronger. I make my 250 blends potent so that I get this beautiful visual effect.....it really enhances a trip or an entactogen. Jwh-081 is good, but it reminds me of the -18 high....generic and not like pot.
 
ive yet to try and jwh

honestly id rather just smoked bud

but i am intrigued.....
 
I'd rather smoke bud too but frankly my bank account can't keep up with my tolerance even while vaping. I don't want to risk dealing/growing, so I guess I'll have to wait until it's legalized in my state.
 
our mega synthetic thread has you covered. All the answeres to all your questions are already in there for ya.

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Guys what would you recommend to get? I'm interesting in most exact trip like you get from the mj. So I need it to be strong and long lasting (up to 2-3h). I can choose from JWH-019, -081, -122, -210, the other ones are illegal at my place.

I must admit I tried 081 from one source, used 1g of 081 on 11g of marshmallow, but it has no poitential, a feel light stoned effect but thats all, and it last only up to 30mins.
 
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