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Exactly. I've yet to see someone who weighed out the proper dose and claimed to have had unexpected side effects. The proper dose of the product is 2-5 mg, so eyeballing this shit is risking an overdose every time.

Edit: Not saying this has anything to do with the carcinogenity, but there's way too much negativity towards this drug just because RC naive people are using it improperly.
 
I wasn't hating on it being an RC, just saying that I don't ingest substances without knowing what the substance is that I'm putting into my body.

Pharmaceuticals, weed and alcohol are a go for me. I used to do heavy psychedelics until a latent mental issue revealed itself, so those are completely out of the question these days. Besides that, I've never trusted "hard drug" sources in the first place so you can't hold the authenticity of my, for the sake of argument, heroin dealer's word against me because I've never in fact had a heroin dealer (or meth, or coke, or opium, or... shit, or anything besides pharms, weed and liquor).



I see what your saying, though, most people hold a double standard simply because of the label "Research Chemical." I'm one of the few, however, that don't. :)
 
Yeah, but alcohol is extremely toxic, and weed is carcinogenic (to a small degree). So your problem is just with the lack of testing? Because a LOT of pharmaceuticals have been grandfathered in by clauses in FDA regulation that really haven't been properly tested at all.
 
Nope, my problem is doing things in ignorance. I like to know all the risks involved, not hypothetical risks. Then, once I know the risks, I like to weigh the pros and cons of whatever drug's in question to finally make the decision whether or not I want to ingest it.

With weed, alcohol and pharms I know all the risks involved. With most other substances I haven't a clue (either due to a lack of authenticity from street dealers or a lack of knowledge concerning substances that haven't been around long enough to research), and it's not like I can pick up "Research Chemicals for Dummies" anywhere, you know?



I don't want to put anything in my body that could possibly increase my chances for cancer 10-fold, or lead to these long-term overdose repercussions that some people claim to be experiencing because of certain synthetic cannabinoids.


Meh, I guess I just like to feel in control of the situation... That and I'm not much of a gambler when the wager is my health.


[Edit: When I say pharm's, I'm actually referring only to a handful of benzo's and opiates. It's not like I'm an all around pill-head or anything (except for Xanax... I can munch on that shit ALLLLLL day.)]
 
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OK, SO Nobody has tried SR-18 yet?

Seems these synthetic cannabinoids are just fantastic. 018 is very nice as long as you don't do too much, 073 is nice and it is more dose-forgiving than 018. CP55490 is the absolute shit but impossible to find.

Anyone have info on win55212?
 
I haven't tried SR-18 yet but really want to(i care not about the consequences so save your breath people). I started with a 0.5g of 73 and 0.5g of 18 dilluted and put onto 75g of damiana. It was pretty good rolled in blunts. A friend of mine doubled the active ingredients and it was too strong for my taste as i like to do it and actually function.

The win55212 is good! Way less lazyness and just an all around good time. The 73 and 18 are now illegal in Alabama(thanks Gov. Riley you douche!). That being said i had to switch ingredients. If you use win55212 and 73 together it's fantastic. That's what i used last month to ween my people off the 18. Then i used the jwh-250 with win55212...it was okay but i think i have to up the dose. Long story short...let me know how the sr-18 works out and go for it with the win55212, it may be triple the price(i think we use the same supplier) but worth it.
 
King Krypto doesn't even have the contents listed on the package. Who knows what's in it?

legal bud that nobody knows of.
 
I've been having a hard time getting high on K2 Summit. I've smoked fat bowls of it, I'm talking 10 to 20 hits in one sitting. The most I've gotten out of it is a slight buzz that is equivalent to smoking maybe 0.02 grams of weed. It's pretty disappointing to me. My friend will get high off of a few hits but I get nothing.
 
Troi said:
I'm a lightweight... cheap date... two hit wonder. Why? Well because my job. A hot pee test and I'd be kicking rocks looking for more work. So I can count the number of times I've smoked weed in the last two years on one hand. (sad but true).

Recently, I started hand rolling my own cigs. It's cheaper and I actually enjoy the taste better. Not to mention the new Fire Safe cigs suck, imho. I'm visiting various smoke shops to get my pouch tobacco, and I come upon this 'herbal incense' I don't want to 'source' however I need to know if anyone has any information of a specific product called 'King Krypto'? I've searched the web... and yanno there isn't a whole lot about it... I do know it's pricey...

Now I'm reading about making your own blends... um... okay...seems cheaper and a better idea... but I'm waiting for the 'catch'

So any thoughts?

I wish you well and enough,

Troi


(I'll understand if you have to delete this... but how do I ask without actually ASKING?)
(admins... if I blew it, please let me know... I don't want to lose my posting privs)
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Merged into Synth Discussion thread and because merge is ordered by dates it was put on the second page 8) You don't lose your posting privileges so don't worry about that.

@Sega: you don't need to bump the thread twice telling me to merge, or let alone even post. I saw your report and that's all I need, thanks.

It's basically only me running this board right now and I'm not always available 100% of the time.

/rant lol
 
Ok, I found out that King Krypto has synthetic cannabinoids JWH-073 or JWH-018 that are supposed to have very similar effects to THC, while being much more potent.

From a guinea pig experiment, there was more pupil dilation, nervousness/anxiety, and slightly more sketchiness than regular weed. This product doesn't produce a very comfortable high imo, but it still gets you higher than weed though...
 
It definitely gets you higher, but in a different way. I find that JWH-018 lacks the balance of stimulation and relaxation, which the regular herb contains. On the contrary if your someone who is more into amphetamine based drugs, you'll love this concoction.
 
I recently tried sr-18 its more relax and chill high, fast come on. more flowerly tasting than jwh018.
 
infiltratah said:
I had a shitty experience my first day w/ jwh-018. I got another batch today & had to try it out b/c they looked completely different from each other. The 1st batch was a fine caramel/vanilla coloured (kinda like a crisped opana) crystal like powder that doesn't stick together or to the bag. The 2nd batch looks like blow almost.. white as snow & sticks to itself somewhat & to the bag. The 2nd batch is hard to get out b/c it sticks to anything. Anyway, the 2nd batch seems to be more what I am looking for. The differences between the two are remarkable.

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Please elaborate. I have the same 2 batches I think. The non sticky one came in a zipper sandwich bag and the other one (haven't opened it yet) was a much smaller volume in an appropriate size bag. 25g each. I had to stop for a while due to adverse effects from continuiously od. Built up a tolarance over 2-3 months and recklessly exceeded the rec. dose. I haven't opened the second bag but it looks like blow. Got them at the same source. Tell me more.
 
^ I'm interested as well. My previous vendor started getting 87% ~pure jwh instead of it's usual 97%+. Apparent in color (off white tinged with yellow) and an online friend of mine had it lab tested +/- 5%.
 
Usually lower quality JWH is easy to spot (if you know it's the right RC, that is). ~96% stuff or higher is going to look white and fluffy as you described. Tolerance develops relatively quickly with JWH as well. If you've been using it for more than a few months daily, then yes, it's probably your tolerance.
 
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