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[Mega]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion

god made us with cb1 and cb2 cannabinoid receptors, our brains are designed to utilize chemicals to alter consiousness and feelings or perceptions. ive only tried jwh018 pure crystalline 99.9 and it was crazy, i got scared 2 times that i had neurotoxicity and was a lil paranoid, also my eyes looked chemically altered

from what i here about 73 maybe it would be better for me, i smoked 5 mg of jwh18 twice a day for 3 to 4 months, just one 45 dollar gram lasts a long time if u smoke it right. i use it for insmonia and found that it makes me take a nap during the after noon if i smoke in the morning.

i dont like cannabis though i feel like im chasing the high
i prefer hashish or other concentrates from the dispenseries since they are in between jwh018s potency and cannabis ya know
 
@ PriestTheyCalledHim ... Perhaps the herb you are talking about is "wet" (aka budz which have been dipped in formaldahyde sp??).

As far as my new batch of j-dub .. its treating me nicely & i have had no adverse effects from it whatsoever. I still don't trust that 1st batch (which, btw, i did find via google & the 2nd came recommended).
 
Infiltratah, no-one would soak their buds in formaldehyde unless they want to severely damage their respiratory tract and give themselves cancer. What you're thinking of is PCP.
 
Roose said:
That's not necessarily bad, is it? Personally, I would like to see all these legal smoke blends to be taken off the market and if the news is steering people away from it then more power to them.
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Wow Roose. I understand that your heart's in the right place but think about what you just said. I know the name of the game is harm reduction, which I suppose that quote serves, and I'm not trying to attack you personally, I just want to make you aware of the implication of that thought process. Off the market=banned and or illegal, likely by some emergency bill that you have no say over. Wouldn't it be better to put the facts out there, make them readily available and let people decide for themselves?

That method of thought applied to any drug, idea, book, etc, is dangerous. "Well it's bad for you, so I guess any way to get rid of it is good." Thoughts like this and similar thoughts/ideals landed us exactly where we are; mired in a pit of draconian drug laws, media scare tactics, and a war on personal freedom. That thought completely precludes all notions of freedom and personal choice, as well as lends power to the people in a position to make choices for you. Even if these people have never met you, or give the slightest thought to what is actually in your best interest. Yes smoking said chemical is bad for you, but do we really need more laws? Do we really need someone else telling us what to do? I consider myself a responsible adult. I'm a fully functioning member of society. So what if I want to give myself cancer? Why does it matter to you? I don't need you or anyone else imposing your will upon me. I am not harming anyone else, and the decision should be mine alone. As it remains in my state. But not for long. Thanks largely in part to politicians wanting to gain points by rallying against the latest "drug craze", and the people who lend them their power.

Sorry for the rant. I thought this was the general consensus here, or BL 101, but I guess it doesn't hurt to reiterate every so often.

Oh and PS to Phactor. GO SOX!
 
Ok. I just re-read what I wrote, and again, I don't want anyone to take that the wrong way. It's not meant to be in-your-face or reactionary or antagonistic. I really think that any and all responsible adults should hold similar beliefs. I don't know why anyone doesn't. Do you let anyone make you route for a certain team? Buy a certain brand? Act a certain way? To me, it is all very much the same. And I would love to hear any healthy discussion on the topic. :)
 
HeavyHanded said:
So what if I want to give myself cancer? Why does it matter to you?
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Where do I start?
Let's see here. First of all, you are probably going to regret giving yourself cancer, spending the rest of your life miserable, making everyone else miserable around you. Second, it's probably going to be me and everyone else paying taxes who actually pays for your health insurance to get your sorry ass some medication and hospital visits so you can spend the rest of your life with cancer. So now, not only are the people who know you going to be sad because you have cancer, but several people who don't know you are paying out of their pocket for your mistakes.

Still don't think that your actions effect others? Think again.
 
HeavyHanded said:
Wouldn't it be better to put the facts out there, make them readily available and let people decide for themselves?
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Bro, what facts? We know it's carcinogenic and most RCs are completely untested. We're the test market, the testing generation of synthetic drugs. It's a new wave and already I've read enough horror stories about every single RC I know of for each that I've heard good about it.

I'm with Roose here. I want these blends off the market, and I want RCs off the grid so that those who don't know enough about them don't use them. It's unfortunate that if this were to happen, it would likely be a blanket ban on MANY RCs.

It's one thing if you're buying a pure RC an know what you *may* be getting into, it's another when you buy a product from the store and it makes the front page of the news cause your buddy had a panic attack and went to the hospital. Next thing you know, "RC Madness" comes out (not really, that part's a joke).
 
chainer3k said:
Bro, what facts? We know it's carcinogenic and most RCs are completely untested. We're the test market, the testing generation of synthetic drugs. It's a new wave and already I've read enough horror stories about every single RC I know of for each that I've heard good about it.

I'm with Roose here. I want these blends off the market, and I want RCs off the grid so that those who don't know enough about them don't use them. It's unfortunate that if this were to happen, it would likely be a blanket ban on MANY RCs.

It's one thing if you're buying a pure RC an know what you *may* be getting into, it's another when you buy a product from the store and it makes the front page of the news cause your buddy had a panic attack and went to the hospital. Next thing you know, "RC Madness" comes out (not really, that part's a joke).
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"We know it's carcinogenic"

false? also, we know cannabis smoke is carcinogenic, don't we?
 
Yeah, the jury's really still out on that one, and pretty much everything you smoke is carcinogenic; the question is the amount, and you're only smoking a few mg of jwh-018, compared with large volumes of organic matter.
 
I would just like to thank the creator of this thread and all threads that should be here but were inappropriately put into CD for persuading me to never, ever, everevereverevereverEVER try these synthetic cannabinoids while they're still RCs.

If this were a bar I'd get all you guinea pigs a round on me.



For your bravery and determination to get high, we salute you.
 
it's probably going to be me and everyone else paying taxes who actually pays for your health insurance to get your sorry ass some medication and hospital visits so you can spend the rest of your life with cancer. So now, not only are the people who know you going to be sad because you have cancer, but several people who don't know you are paying out of their pocket for your mistakes.

Still don't think that your actions effect others? Think again.
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You will pay anyway, think about it. Everyone will die, become burden on society, and suck up needed tax dollars. Or should we find the most cost-efficient way to die...
 
Or should we find the most cost-efficient way to die...
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This would be a good start, but I would say finding the higher quality of life is what is truly in question here. I don't want to see anyone spend their life with cancer. If I can prevent it, I will.
 
So much worry in this thread about the RC scene. I'm assuming that no one here buys drugs off the street, as that's just as unsafe. Might as well never try MDMA unless you learn to make it yourself, because all of the shit is going to be cut as fuck and possibly cancerous with cutting agents.
 
^ In the name of harm reduction good sir.

Plus, we do know basic information, as you mentioned MDMA (perfect example), we know can cause serotonin syndrome and how to properly and most safely dose and test our pills or molly. Not the same for these RCs, on the contrary, we dont know anything about a lot of them, and they have almost no history of human consumption. And to be honest, the people I typically cop off of are more trust worthy than some of these companies "selling" (sometimes stealing if you don't do your research) unlabeled RC bags (sometimes not what you even ordered!).
 
aparenz said:
So much worry in this thread about the RC scene. I'm assuming that no one here buys drugs off the street, as that's just as unsafe. Might as well never try MDMA unless you learn to make it yourself, because all of the shit is going to be cut as fuck and possibly cancerous with cutting agents.
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Well... Personally, if I don't trust the source to be knowledgeable enough to know what he's selling and to be honest with me about what he's selling, I'm not ever going to become a customer of his.

With regards to research chemicals [read: not street drugs] nobody knows what's liable to happen. That fact just isn't.... comforting to me.



I mean, to each their own, but people shouldn't expect too much sympathy when things go wrong after they do something 100% voluntarily and in complete ignorance.
 
Even then if you don't know the chemist, your potentially consuming carcinogenic impurities as a byproduct of a rushed product. I wouldn't doubt most street mdma, heroin, coke, you name it is as impure as RC's. Now if you go through the trouble of extracting and crystallizing the product, then maybe one can have some certainty.

A little of any of this shit aint gonna kill ya. The human body is built to repair itself and its not like every toke of JWH is so many minutes off your life haha. Now those who smoke this shit 2-3 times a week or even once a week could be putting themselves in a bad position for their future.
 
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