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JWH blend

Ok first off swim Has been making his own spice blend for about a month now, He started with a 018
blend which was pretty good but more of clear high, wore off at about the 30 minute range Nothing
like his experiences with big company blends, Where it seems to last around 2 hours and gets swim
realy John blazed .
So Swim thought maybe it was the 018, He ordered another batch from a different vendor and found
it was exactly the same, So swim then thinks the problem was he needed to mix another jwh with the
018. So swim then gets 018 and 073, This blend (50-50) seemed to actually be a little weaker than his
100% 018 blend.
After research it seems the big company blends has to be mixing in cp47479 because of the duration
(about 2 hours for swim). So swim thinks he needs CP compound to blend in with his 018 for a more
comparable high to the Big Company blends, Untill swim sees the prices for CP (HOLY SHIT!!!) Theres
no way Swims favorite Big Company blend uses this and is able to sell so cheap.
So swims question is, Is swim missing something? why does the pure 018 seem to be nothing like his
favorite big company blends? Is there another JWH that could be mixed with 018 to give a more stoney
high with longer duration? If not has any swimmers mixed 018 with CP47479? And if so Swim has read
the dosage for Cp47 was 2-5 mg with a duration of 5-6 hours, So if 1 mg was mixed with a normal 018
Dose would that put off the more stoney high with about a 2 hour duration?
Any Ideas on what swims blend needs to make it comparable to the best big company blends would
Surely help out as swim is tired of wasting time and money experementing on his own.
 
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i don't even know what JWH is but i know what it isn't...

why does this jwh shit keep ending up in CD? do legal Ecstasy imitation products end up in Ecstasy discussion?

i hope nobody in CD gives this thread any real responses...
 
OP, if you still have both -073 and -018, try experimenting with them in different ratios and dosages - I'm not sure 50/50 is where you want to be. Secondly, many of these companies use CP 47, 497, but I think in small amounts - just to extend the high.

Most people find mixing 073 and 018 to be exactly like Cannabis - I would say it's just about right, minus the duration. I would say the only thing you're missing is the dosages, when making the blend. If you're not finding it powerful enough, just bump up the dose. If you're looking to extend the duration, then you're probably going to have to add a CP series Cannabinoid. Just don't stop experimenting, and you'll eventually find the perfect ratio. Either way, both 073 and 018 have a short duration, there's nothing you can really do about that besides adding more/different Cannabinoids.

chairmanma084 said:
i don't even know what JWH is but i know what it isn't...

why does this jwh shit keep ending up in CD? do legal Ecstasy imitation products end up in Ecstasy discussion?

i hope nobody in CD gives this thread any real responses...
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1) Because it isn't the same analogy as MDMA is to "Legal Ecstasy Imitation Products." It's closer to comparing MDMA to bk-MDMA, and even that isn't close enough IMO.

2) It belongs in CD because it's a Cannabis RELATED question. Of course it would serve itself more useful over in PD, but most people figure to post here.

3) If you "don't even know what JWH is" then why are you commenting on it?
 
First of all I posted this in the homeless threads earlier trying to find a reasonable place to post,
The moderator moved the post here so obviously he thought this was a reasonable spot.
If you would research a little about JWH then you would find out JWH is a synthetic cannabinoid,
So would cannabis discussion not be a reasonable place to speak about a cannabinoid? I dont believe it is called marijauna discussion!
 
Razorback said:
First of all I posted this in the homeless threads earlier trying to find a reasonable place to post,
The moderator moved the post here so obviously he thought this was a reasonable spot.
If you would research a little about JWH then you would find out JWH is a synthetic cannabinoid,
So would cannabis discussion not be a reasonable place to speak about a cannabinoid? I dont believe it is called marijauna discussion!
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not attacking you, razor.

i don't think that JWH issues/questions/threads should be dumped in CD. why not OD?

and...

don't even act like JWH and cannabis are the same thing.

or, why don't you get someone to start SCD?
 
chairmanma084 said:
don't even act like JWH and cannabis are the same thing.
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There are a lot of people who are in particular situations...Probation....Good Jobs..etc that get Random UA's, To those people Cannabis is off limits unfortunatly. Those same people will agree JWH is a true yet synthetic Cannabinoid, And I would like to know the major difference if its man made or naturally grown. Whether or not the true pot smokers who shun away from these wonderfull compounds like it or not, Synthetic Cannabinoids are defenatly on the rise and begining to gain lots of attention.
I bet you anything you wouldnt have a problem with JWH if you gave it an unbiased test Chairmanma. It is after all Diggity Danks Little man made brother.

chairmanma084 said:
or, why don't you get someone to start SCD?
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That is a great Idea, I am new to Bluelight and do not know if there are enough bluelight members into these synthetic compounds to support its own section, But im sure it would work well under a RCD(Research Chemicals Discussion) section.
That should make everyone happy.
 
solubilty?

Is JWH-018 soluble in Ethanol such as EverClear.

Some places say yes and others say no...Can anyone confirm and if so what is the solubility rate?

I've been told that 018 is soluble in Acetone up to 35mg per 1ml, so the same info for Everclear would be appreciated.
 
Just use isopropyl alcohol, not ethyl alcohol. It's very very soluble in IPA.
 
well considering ur username is dondiesel and u have ONE post and are ADVERTISING "diesel" spice forgive me for thinking you are here to flog your shit (which has NOT been properly researched i might add)
 
yes, NYCD, Sour diesel, or the heroin stamp.

either way the person has DIRECT links and only one post with a username directly referencing the product.
so aye, advertisement. :P

either way.... reported for spam
 
Spice is shite. I smoked this junk three times, first normal then gold then diamond, and each time my high was below what i'd get from low thc 4,5% cannabis. I don't know much about what you used to smoke, but unless you have a good connect you probably had to smoke that "skunk" that goes about, and by that I mean the one bred to have mainly THC, but no CBD/CBN. I believe they do this to reduce grow times. THC is the psychotic, responsible for that heady, spaced out feeling. I like to toke weed a lot and thankfullyy have a good dealer, but sometimes he would get certain strains that made me go paranoid as fuck--i'm guessing its the THC.

Try and get yourself, or grow, an indica dom strain. These have higher ratios of the other cannabinoids, and relax you so much both mentally and physically. Kinda like a trippy valium :) Also, the health consequences of JWH-018 are unknown at present. And there's plenty of ways to cheat a piss test, done it many times ;)
 
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