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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

thenightwatch said:
JWH-122 was indeed less potent, but the high it produced at appropriate doses was the best IMO. long lasting and natural feeling. didn't leave me feeling cracked out 45 minutes later.
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Oh, I agree except the chiminica doesn't really have any after effects if you take sub mg doses. I'm trying to hit that spot just before tachycardia begins, it's potency is indeed a detriment. I'm lucky the first time I got it it was in solution otherwise I might have assumed it was ok to treat it like the other synths I've tried (122, am2201 which fucked with my hearing and sucked)
 
I like 2 cannabinoids

a) Cesamet : that thing is fucking great and feels like the first times smoking weed, except it lasts all night, in fact you wake up more high than when you went to bed and STARVING lol. I've been lucky enough to know people who are scripted it with their opiates so they have to take less of them (opiates), a couple 1mg gelcaps eaten and I'll have a blast in a couple hours. I haven't tried to smoke the powder inside the gelcap, know somebody who snorted it, lol, it was a friend of my brother's so I wasn't there to tell him no that's dumb. I don't know if the powder can be smoked. But talk about a tried and true cannabinoid that is completely safe devoid of anxious feelings in effects, one of the best medecines out there, too bad it's use is limited outside Canada (in the US, it's only for chemo caused lack of appetite/nausea), not for adjunct to chronic pain.

b)One I ordered some some flubromazepam and got 3 big bags of damiana spreaded with a long ass chemical identified on the bag, searching for it it turned out to be AB-FUBINICA. After some research, I've come to know it was invented by Pfizer and it made it to Phase III of clinical trials. An indication that it is pretty safe. Although I understand why they scrapped it, they wanted a painkiller out of it and high quality weed is already cheap enough in this country and more and more down south that I just take tiny bowls of it and get a high similar to what a fully sativa plant would give me, there's no bodily feelings of relief to get from it. If this product had been invented for the internet vendors, like many of the cannabinoids I can get from europe now ( I can get jwh-250 inside my country but why bother...at least that one apparently doesn't leave plastic like residue inside bowls like all other jwh's). And I would definitely never ever toke 0,0001 of a blend with no indication of what's in it. Heard enough horror stories from people smoking way too large bowls or even joints of that Bizzarro and Spaceman stuff.

Cesamet all the way, it's not a dud like marinol %)
 
mike.vick said:
They should bring back the good synths. whose with me? who cares if they're illegal, you can get heroin to your mailbox. I wanna blast off like that jwh-018 again. or even somethin better
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Exactly mate! The JWH series cannabinoids are the best! The majority of the newer synthetic cannabinoids are complete crap & feel more like stimulants than marijuana. I don't know or understand why these Chinese manufactures keep making these random shit cannabinoids trying to get around bans when they are still producing & shipping all these other illegal or grey area substances which are scheduled or prohibited in other countries. Completely makes no sense to me!
 
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thenightwatch said:
JWH-122 was indeed less potent, but the high it produced at appropriate doses was the best IMO. long lasting and natural feeling. didn't leave me feeling cracked out 45 minutes later. i've got aFB-48 right now, and while it is enjoyable, it is not nearly the same as the classic JWHs nor the "real thing".
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Each of the JWH series cannabinoids were similar to different strains of weed. The JWH122 IMO was just like Indica marijuana and was probably one of longer lasting JWH's available & it was also very good when mixed with other JWH cannabinoids to increase the duration and effects. Personally I find that AKB-48 and similar cannabinoids like STS-135 & 2NE1 quite frankly suck!
 
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lolwhatzdrugs said:
lol, what? Move to China where they're not scheduled.... who the fuck wants scheduled drugs shipped to your mailbox? Addicts who are in way to deep and crazies.
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Your personal thoughts or overzealous, absurd statement still doesn't change the FACT that "scheduled" or illegal substances in many countries are being shipped to consumers, distributors, retailers across the globe directly from China 24/7 365.
 
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mike.vick said:
They should bring back the good synths. whose with me? who cares if they're illegal, you can get heroin to your mailbox. I wanna blast off like that jwh-018 again. or even somethin better
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I am. JWH-018 still is the best after all these years. Although I thought Ab-fubinaca came pretty close. I don't care much for the new 'noids these days unfortunately.
 
has anyone ever tried any of the smacked series k2? i dont smoke k2 anymore but when i did that stuff had me tripping nuts! like visuals and everything the effects lasted over an hour and it was fucking scary as fuck sometimes! (strawberry smacked to be exact) and after i came down i felt like complete shit and all i wanted was more. i was a strait k zombie. and im almost prone to having bad trips off of psychedelics like high amounts of mushrooms and acid but k scared the fuck out of me and when i was on it i would talk to myself in my head. once i smoked it and took a shower and it felt like something was there with me, i i got out and looked in the mirror and i was laughing at myself. but i wasn't laughing 8(
 
Oh ROXIanne! You are after starting ratios of AB-CHMINACA/base it is WAY more potent than the older cannabinoids so guess work won't work!

And as for thenightwatch - the ratios you suggest are WAY over-strong - you said you have no exp. of this cannabinoid and yet make a dosing suggestion, why?!? Straight-to-panick-attack concentrations you gave, too...

Mixed at 1g to 2 Oz/56g, it is *incredibly* potent, even to me with a all-day toking tolerance of FUB-PB-22 and AB-FUBINACA (each at 1g/1 Oz) - I'd start with 1g to 3 Oz (or make a small batch 333.3mg/1 Oz), and then try the tiniest amount and see how you get on with it - it may still be too strong.

MMB-CHMINACA similar but even stronger start at a maximum 1g/4 Oz, and still take a tiny sample first time.

These cannabinoids when over-dosed also really fuck your balance up when hit too hard - like being rat-arsed-drunk or on lots of benzos - legs are f'ng useless!

Start tiny, take great care, and FFS be seated lol!

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lolwhatzdrugs said:
"in fact you wake up more high than when you went to bed and STARVING lol"

different strokes my friend, I would call that a nightmare if it was not from regular cannabis.
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Well it's one of the only thing that is able to make me wake up in a good mood and making myself breakfast is great, although it makes me starve so bad my stomach cramps and hurts until I got food in it. I'm sure it works for chemo caused lack of appetite hehe. But yeah I was just saying that this cannabinoid feels the most natural of them all (like eaten 70%+ indica weed), but has that weird property of causing one to wake up slow stupid and hungry, which is pretty fun. I normally wake up with a slight headache and in a shit mood until about 2 hours into my day.

Needless to say if I get cancer one day, i'll be asking for Cesamet, the 1mg pills, not the .5 or .25 ( I think they keep the .25mg ones for kids).
 
THE_REAL_OBLIVION said:
Well it's one of the only thing that is able to make me wake up in a good mood and making myself breakfast is great, although it makes me starve so bad my stomach cramps and hurts until I got food in it. I'm sure it works for chemo caused lack of appetite hehe. But yeah I was just saying that this cannabinoid feels the most natural of them all (like eaten 70%+ indica weed), but has that weird property of causing one to wake up slow stupid and hungry, which is pretty fun. I normally wake up with a slight headache and in a shit mood until about 2 hours into my day.

Needless to say if I get cancer one day, i'll be asking for Cesamet, the 1mg pills, not the .5 or .25 ( I think they keep the .25mg ones for kids).
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Didn't realize cesamet was a prescription synth noid'

In fact, I thought all of the cannabinoids prescribed for wasting were lab made (and/or chromatographically extracted) THC (drobinol/marinol), didn't know that there were synths out there.
 
finding some nice ratios with ABC but I am trying to perfect my mixology flavor and effects. But my juice is administering dosages as low as 16mcg per vape I had initially had double this dosage and found it to still be ott

Also I did find this interesting little thing the other day on a data site regarding counterfeit medication a "4 Blue" pill containing UR-144F posing as genuine THC medication
 
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mang, I'm still using the same 5-600mg sack of ADBICA I got back in February. It's about to run out, though... Shame, I liked it, if only for its duration.

If I can still get my mitts on it (haven't checked up on the vendor in forever) I might get some aFB-48/FUB-AKB48 next if it's still around... considering 5F-AKB is all but dried up and I really miss that body high it gave. Not much has come close to matching it.
 
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