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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

hm i don't think that is the correct structure. i think the chain off of the indazole should terminate with a fluorine. or perhaps a fluorobenzyl.

edit -- i think you linked aKB-48 rather than aFB-48.
 
thenightwatch said:
hm i don't think that is the correct structure. i think the chain off of the indazole should terminate with a fluorine. or perhaps a fluorobenzyl.

edit -- i think you linked aKB-48 rather than aFB-48.
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There is an aFb-48? I thought it was a typo. I have no idea then.
 
Hello, my friends and I are looking to make a blend with fub-pb22 powder and we dont how how much mg of this cannabinoid per gram of plant we need to take into the acetone to later pour into the plant. Can anyone help? Thanks.
 
Head shop weed smells like perfume and is shite. Yes it gets you very high but dont mess with that shit stick to proper weed for a decent high
 
oXyboss14 said:
Nasty nasty stuff. . do not understand what people find so pleasurable about this crap
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It could be that many of "us" are subject to harsh and random drug testing, that doesn't test for synthetics, as conditions of our employment. Meaning, if I legally smoked a MJ joint in Colorado and was randomly urine tested 20 days later, I could be humiliated and fired from my only source of income. The even more ironic thing is that the nature of my job isn't even one that would logically require or need drug testing. (ie. no machinery, driving, dangerous activities, etc) So, by law and by drug testing mandate, we're forced into CBD's if we wish to occasionally pursue a "high".
 
I'm very interested in understanding people's motivation for using synthetic cannabinoids over regular marijuana.

I've used my share of RC psychedelics, but I have absolutely no desire to try a synthetic cannabinoid because I'm perfectly satisfied with marijuana. There are much more increased health risks from synthetic cannabinoids, unknown health risks, as well as I hear many people claiming many negative side effects including headaches.

Given that marijuana is so widely available, and many synthetics are becoming illegal very quickly anyways, what motivates you to use something like JWH? Are there any unique effects that synthetics provide that marijuana cannot?
 
one thing i know is that i have suffered from a few fits this last year because of the noids that i have used the last batch that got banned all i had to worry about was smack style withdrawals with this its much more life threatening problems
 
Zeeman said:
I'm very interested in understanding people's motivation for using synthetic cannabinoids over regular marijuana.

I've used my share of RC psychedelics, but I have absolutely no desire to try a synthetic cannabinoid because I'm perfectly satisfied with marijuana. There are much more increased health risks from synthetic cannabinoids, unknown health risks, as well as I hear many people claiming many negative side effects including headaches.

Given that marijuana is so widely available, and many synthetics are becoming illegal very quickly anyways, what motivates you to use something like JWH? Are there any unique effects that synthetics provide that marijuana cannot?
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i was buying weed but the dispensary i was getting it from here in michigan got raided. no other dispensaries for 100 miles, i live in the middle of nowhere. didn't feel like finding weed on the street, so i decided to get back into blends. thanks uncle sam!

it also doesn't hurt that making your own blend is like 10x cheaper than buying weed.
 
Zeeman said:
I'm very interested in understanding people's motivation for using synthetic cannabinoids over regular marijuana.
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I think the word "using" has different meanings to people and that the synthetic cannabinoids have a bad rap because of abuse and misuse. I use cannabis first and foremost. I do not use it much, several times a week at night. But back in 2009 I had bought a gram of jwh-018 and then in 2011 one of 5f-akb48. I still have most of that after these years and every once in a while when i am out of weed I will use 2-3 mgs maybe once or twice a night and then not at all for months. The synthetics at a small dose come complete with insight and hunger just like weed. I do believe there is no good or bad drug, just good or bad relationships of it.`I think they were a wonderful discovery and help us learn the different receptors that respond to the drug.

I had often said when I read about people taking a gram of pure material a day it makes my head tilt. Does that make the chemical bad? If someone were to take 100 ibuprofen a day and blow out his stomach does that make ibuprofen a harmful substance or was it used wrong? Some of this reminds me of LSD back in the 60's. Doses were very strong and it got a bad rap until we learned how to use it. While I am weary of synthetic cannabinoids I do think a few mgs every once in a while can be as useful as cannabis. I say this with pure material, not blends. I have not had a blend since the original Spice Gold back in 2007. From what I read here on the boards the current blends could have anything in them. And some of the withdrawal symptoms I read really make me wonder. I wouldn't touch them. But every once in a while a few mgs of 018 or akb48 seems ok to me. Just touching on them here and there. When I smoke weed again some days later it seems much stronger and longer lasting.
 
btw that gram of aFB-48 i just bought is going to last me months, and i'm going to be smoking it at least once a day.

made a blend out of it so that i can titrate doses better. imo self-made blends are the safest way to smoke synthetic cannabinoids. don't trust store bought blends tho.
 
^ Exactly TNW. A home made blend made by a bath and evaporate seems the safest. I made one last year with 50mgs to a gram of plant matter (parsley) and a tiny wisp works. That gram will last me a good bit since I reach for cannabis first. But it is a great back up! ;)

It would be interesting to see a list of all chemicals being added to all kinds of blends. Since I haven't had a blend in years I had a friend tell me he bought one and it seemed to be more than just a cannabinoid. But who knows.
 
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