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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

Kottonmouth said:
When smoking noids,even THC, the first time back really is different, i get that same feeling you do, until i doit again later on in the day/hour.... Once that goes away its back to chill-mode dude!

--Sorry, cant find post, it was about heart racing yur first time back to smokin' after a long break
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don't that lat paranoia get to ya, this shit can play a real mind fuck on ya! but it's the adrenalin talkin not the noid! lol
 
Greetings to all!
I want to consult with you about JWH(GWH). A month ago, I ordered an analogue THJ-018, but it is quite another thing, is very weak and does not have anything like this with the JWH, can you tell me the name of a similar counterpart of the same**edit**
Thank you.
 
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thenightwatch said:
bad idea with what he has. you don't want to pyrolize PG or PEG.
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InterestingFACT said:
I've seen a few references to AB-FUBINACA being dangerous/resulting in hospitalizations/etc.

Does anyone know if the same would hold true of AB-CHMINACA?



I'm not a heavy user of marijuana (almost never), and generally have no interest in synthetic cannabinoids. However, I'm considering getting something "just to have" alongside an order of something else--for the rare occasion that I desire a weed-like high. So far, this seems like one of the better candidates available at the moment, but I'm having trouble finding information on it.
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Why is ab-fubinaca dangerous?..i have both ab-fubinaca,and.ab-chminaca
 
AB-FUB has made it to phase III of the FDA by pfizer. I was also scared it would just cause me panic attacks like ACTUAL weed, I've toked for 9 years of high quality eastern canada weed, sometimes weed 5-6 years later after starting that would still give me "that face" where I'm so out there I can't pretend, something that I can pull off on any dose of LSD. Anyway, I smoke tiny tiny bowls sometimes when having problems sleeping the day before i renew my insomnia aid (10mg valium, 1mg xanax together).
 
Has anyone found a currently available noid that, when utilized within an herbal blend, is active in a vape? (ie. Pax)

Following the banning of JWH-018 and some of the other legacy cannabinoids, several blends were available that were very active when vaped. But it must of been a very select few, because every blend made with familiar compounds (JWH-018, AM-2201, JWH-073) were not active in a Pax style vape.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
 
Kind of need some help, and Im sure this belongs in hr maybe. Ok so ive tried a few noids in the past but only in blends so here it goes, I live in the states, ok to be exact. Keep in mind ive only smoked blends. So about a month ago they seize all of it at the local head shops. Several days w/o it no problems. Anyways I find this kk blue red and green at a gas station. One hit and im asleep for 2 hours. I think it lasted me 3 days. Tolerance begins to develop. I began to notice the wds after going to work and not smoking for about 4 or 5 hours. Strong urge to want to smoke more, I was unable to keep anything down, high anxiety in social situations and terrible night vision. I quit my job bc I worked overnights and I couldn't let my finance go through this alone. I have some medical at my disposal. But it does nothing. I know you guys are not mind readers but any guess as to whats in this blend, what are some ways to ease the wds. Im trying to get my finance through this.Idiot me I know dont go through head shops. before I did my research.
 
The medical dies help ease some of the wds, my fiance on the other hand can notsmoke bc of her sub doc. And I just want to stop her from hustling to get another bag bc shes so dependant on it (hustling not hooking) not to mention that shes bi-polar manic depressive and anxiety. Doesnt make things any easier.
 
well we know what will work for you then. as for her, here is a good post from earlier in the thread:

jeremysdemo said:
Toz said:
Anyone got any info on withdrawal from the synthetics? What is it that actually causes the withdrawal? I tried stopping just to see how I would feel, and I felt horrendous after 24 hours, it was just completely intolerable. Felt like I forgot to take a benzodiazepine.

What mechanism of action causes this withdrawal? NMDA receptor over-activation? It would help to know so I can combat it with something else, I am kind of tired of smoking 'noids all day and my pain meds are not working as they should so I need to take a break and reasses my situation really but I can not stack another withdrawal on top of my already on going PAWS from both benzos and opiates because I can not tolerate it at this point.
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I use nootropics, Chia seeds, Omega 3 oil, along with pumping myself with foods that contain natural cannabinoids (Echinacea angustifolia root powder, cashews, chocolate, flax seed etc....
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IMO dark chocolate should work decently, and should be easier to keep down than a lot of other foods to boot
 
night watch makes a good point.

When you experiment with cannabinoids it puts your bodies levels at a certain height, now stopping cold turkey sends the body into a tailspin of deregulation. so always best to ween off after heavy use and allow the body to slowly re-adjust to the new levels.

natural cannabinoids from foods as mentioned above help to offset this deregulation IMHO.

it's not a cure all, but similar to having no gas in a tank and adding moonshine instead of gas...the car will go at least and not be stranded.
 
Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. Yes I remember reading that a few pages ago.
 
NY-based Production company seeks synthetics users for on camera time for documentary. PM me. Thanks!
 
Has anyone used the new C-Liquid Chemical Suspension 3ml that has started to appear with some vendors?

The liquid is a suspension containing a new cannabinoid: N-cumyl-1-(5-fluropentyl) indazole-3-carboxamide
This is the very first time this patent pending cannabinoid has been seen in the UK.
It is very hard to exactly estimate, but we suggest 3ml of chemical suspension is roughly the same as 5-6 grams of herbal blends
Currently we have 3 differant aromas, Vanilla, Blueberry and Bubblegum.
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What ratio of E-Liquid to C-Liquid Suspension would you need to use for that??
 
ItsLloydM8 said:
Has anyone used the new C-Liquid Chemical Suspension 3ml that has started to appear with some vendors?



What ratio of E-Liquid to C-Liquid Suspension would you need to use for that??
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This drug is apparently called STS-135. Coincidentally STS-135 is also:
STS-135 (ISS assembly flight ULF7) was the 135th and final mission of the American Space Shuttle program.
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Maybe it isn't coincidence? It get's you high as a space shuttle yo! Not so great that it was the last time it got "high." Dunno what this says about this noid'. :D

Andynyc said:
NY-based Production company seeks synthetics users for on camera time for documentary. PM me. Thanks!
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You should talk to the mods; this might be appropriate in the drug studies sub-forum?

I don't know who wouldn't want to talk about their grey area drug use for a documentary lol, that'd look great on a resume!
 
lolwhatzdrugs said:
Maybe it isn't coincidence? It get's you high as a space shuttle yo! Not so great that it was the last time it got "high." Dunno what this says about this noid'. :D
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Probably isn't a coincidence...

http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/topics/pods/synthetic-cannabinoids#panel4 said:
More recently, those involved in the ‘legal highs’ trade have started to use code names that have probably been chosen to help market the products. An example of this is AKB-48, an alternative name used for APINACA. AKB-48 is the name of a popular Japanese girl band that has been compared to the UK pop group ‘the Spice Girls’. The synthetic cannabinoid APICA also goes by the alternative name of ‘2NE1’, which is the name of a girl band from South Korea that has also been said to resemble the Spice Girls. Finally, the synthetic cannabinoid, XLR-11, appears to have been named after the first liquid fuel rocket developed in the USA for use in aircraft, perhaps alluding to the vendor’s intention for those who consume the substance.
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