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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

Without going into too much detail, the new compounds are simple, but powerful, modifications to existing, well understood, but banned chems. We have a VERY legitimate understanding of the qSAR involved. My compound, for instance, was first synthesized at the end of 2013, and has become so popular since then that vendors have trouble keeping it in stock. We've kept it's IUPAC sealed up nicely for almost five months though. It's on no LEO radar, despite being the biggest 'noid to hit the scene since JWH-018. It has been a big success and I plan on releasing subsequent compounds in a similar fashion.

It's harm reduction is discussed freely on private forums, away from prying eyes.

Now, this has gotten completely out of hand, can a mod delete or at least lock it? It is getting seriously off topic.
 
N0 W4RN1NG said:
Without going into too much detail, the new compounds are simple, but powerful, modifications to existing, well understood, but banned chems. We have a VERY legitimate understanding of the qSAR involved. My compound, for instance, was first synthesized at the end of 2013, and has become so popular since then that vendors have trouble keeping it in stock. We've kept it's IUPAC sealed up nicely for almost five months though. It's on no LEO radar, despite being the biggest 'noid to hit the scene since JWH-018. It has been a big success and I plan on releasing subsequent compounds in a similar fashion.

It's harm reduction is discussed freely on private forums, away from prying eyes.

Now, this has gotten completely out of hand, can a mod delete or at least lock it? It is getting seriously off topic.
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Okay, it might make a lot of sense to keep chemicals that are entirely unknown except by a single person out of the scene for purposes of harm reduction, so I can see why that would be deleted.

The things you are stating now, should most definitely be deleted any minute because you are incriminating yourself like a godamn madman here.

The compound in question seems to be very widely available after a quick google and there seems to be very basic information out there as well, so from that perspective there is no reason whatsoever to delete this thread.
 
BB-22 isn't one of the two compounds I was referring to, but it is a nice one that I wouldn't want to see federally controlled. I'm not the only person who has decided the newer CBDs are not for the public, by the way. The RAPID emergency scheduling of the CBD AB-FUBINACA was directly related to widespread public internet posts, as confirmed by Sen Pam Bondi of Florida.

EDIT: Am I incriminating myself? I'm no vendor, just a dreamer of structures...is it a crime to merely design a new chemical?
 
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The RAPID emergency scheduling of the CBD AB-FUBINACA was directly related to widespread public internet posts, as confirmed by Sen Pam Bondi of Florida.
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That is unfortunate, but we have an obligation to stand by BL's mission of harm reduction through the dissemination of information. It's an unreasonable request for us to shut down legitimate threads about certain compounds, for any reason.

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If youre "keeping it secret", does the end user know what compound he's ingesting?
If so, how are you actually keeping it secret? Surely someone will have questions.
If not - wtf, man...
 
Does anyone have experience with 5f-sdb-005? Gave it a try last night and was pleasantly surprised . Started with ~3mgs and definitely felt something. Took several 5mgs hits through out the night and found it to be quite enjoyable. The only time I went a little overboard and took too much was very manageable, it doesn't seem to produce the fear and anxiety like that of the JWHs/AM2201. Regarding the above posts, while I understand that wide spread discussion can lead to bans, it seems like a necessary evil. How are we to determine things like starting doses of these new chemicals without discussing them?
 
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All you have to do to see the new released cannabinoids and what people are using is to visit any of the gazillion sites on the internet selling research chemicals. I highly doubt that bluelight is of that much significance in the matter. Law enforcement are not stupid, they will find the cannabinoids anyway and schedule them, regardless if you try to keep them secret. It is merely delaying the inevitable.

Damn it I got so bad cravings for the cannabinoids, I never got this kind of cravings from smoking cannabids. And now I am on an idiotic dose of gabapentin so I can not get high. I am frustrated beyond belief, my psychological cravings for cannabinoids has surpassed that of opiates. Damn these drugs are really more addictive than I thought.
 
i used to smoke alot of diffrient blends a while bacj and that shit is crazy. i feel like i was addicted to it for i while. i just smoked that shit all day every day. its fun and you trip pretty hard but def not worth it. i felt stupid and couldnt think for a couple weeks after i stopped
 
I haven't done cannabinoids for more than a year. I took 2ml of AB-Fubinaca solution. I used 5mg to 10ml of vodka (maybe too little vodka) Here's log what I kept.
I used a regular room temp vodka to dissolve my ab-fubinaca. It was bad solvent for it. I stirred 10 min but still lil chunks were in it. Nvm, measured 2ml few mins ago and see what happens.
Half and hour later im mildly-moderate high. Cottonmouth but no appetite for nothing. Hard to read someting cause I cant keep track what I read. Thoughts just slide away to random scentences. Even if I actually try to read, or write this here. Cool.
Slight paranoia moments, 10 mins later.
I do less next time lol, 1'mg' feels a bit much.
 
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Hi I'm new here, I was curious if anyone has heard of IVX-024 its suppose to be a replacement for AB-fubinaca. Thanks
 
anz said:
I haven't done cannabinoids for more than a year. I took 2ml of AB-Fubinaca solution. I used 5mg to 10ml of vodka (maybe too little vodka) Here's log what I kept.
I used a regular room temp vodka to dissolve my ab-fubinaca. It was bad solvent for it. I stirred 10 min but still lil chunks were in it. Nvm, measured 2ml few mins ago and see what happens.
Half and hour later im mildly-moderate high. Cottonmouth but no appetite for nothing. Hard to read someting cause I cant keep track what I read. Thoughts just slide away to random scentences. Even if I actually try to read, or write this here. Cool.
Slight paranoia moments, 10 mins later.
I do less next time lol, 1'mg' feels a bit much.
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daft question but injecting this that way ?
 
can cannabinoids be injected ?

right i have no intention of doing so just wondered if it can be done and if had been tried ?

i see this as being very very dangerous for a start off it was just an idea
 
foolsgold said:
been doing really well of late but got a gram of this 5F-MN-24 because i panicked think my etzi where not coming been told its death basically totally poisonous right or wrong ?
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No dude, I am sorry to tell you, but you have NOT been doing well AT ALL. I'm not meaning to insult or embarass you here, but you have just had a psychotic break, largely due to your drug abuse. You can still not form coherent sentences which you used to be able to if I remember correctly. Even if you feel better than a month ago, you are still far from healthy.

Do yourself a favor and stay OFF synthetic cannabinoids. They are infamous for being one of the worst class of drugs in terms of keeping your sanity. Your brain will remember each and every one of these episodes. If you don't take your mental health more seriously you will see your mind disintegrate bit by bit. Mark my words and please be safe.

My advice would be becoming 100% sober and getting regular psychiatric and psychotherapeutic treatment. If this is not an option and you feel like you absolutely have to take drugs right now, go for benzos booze and opiates. I've never given this advice to anyone, since most people aren't reckless enough to keep using drugs to such a degree right after a psychotic break, but while those drugs can do a very good job at dragging you into the hell that is addiction, the damage will still be reversable to some degree (except for the physical damage caused by alcohol).
 
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