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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

loads of fucking reasons pal, you even mention them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you answered your own question! he has already decided to take the plunge, keep your misplaced hr and lack of knowledge to yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!...I hate this response...it is meaningless, he is asking about synthetic cannabis not fucking weed mate, jog on. And yes I do fully believe you are trying to belittle, that much seems obvious!

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Seriously though I would stick to weed but if you're going to try synthetic cannabinoids anyway I would take the above advice and get raw chemical and research on dosages regarding that chemical, smoking techniques, and what to expect.
Definitely avoid pre made blends as they can contain hot spots and a dose that got you to a good level before could get you way to high the next time
It won't feel like smoking weed, and in higher doses you can easily get anxiety and panic attacks.
At least I did from jwh-018, I'm not sure about the others.
 
loads of fucking reasons pal, you even mention them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you answered your own question! he has already decided to take the plunge, keep your misplaced hr and lack of knowledge to yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!...I hate this response...it is meaningless, he is asking about synthetic cannabis not fucking weed mate, jog on. And yes I do fully believe you are trying to belittle, that much seems obvious!

It's all about the weed mate, jog on
 
loads of fucking reasons pal, you even mention them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you answered your own question! he has already decided to take the plunge, keep your misplaced hr and lack of knowledge to yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!...I hate this response...it is meaningless, he is asking about synthetic cannabis not fucking weed mate, jog on. And yes I do fully believe you are trying to belittle, that much seems obvious!



And I hate ^^this^^ response. I'm not even going to bother with a back-and-forth with you-- I'll just leave you with the sentiment that I don't like you much after reading through that many exclamation points.

As for the Spice: don't do it, mang. You've no way of finding out what you're smokin' on short of a chemical analysis. Find a reputable source/vendor and purchase research chemicals directly from them. Spice is just a headache waiting to happen.
 
First off, it costs too much.
Secondly it is illegal and you can't smoke it wherever and whenever you want (which you can with noids)
If weed was free and legal I would chose it over noids and of course I smoke it but I do love the high from the cannabinoids I've tried

That makes perfect sense. I used to live in a place where weed was illegal and it was like a joke. People wouldn't even smoke on their porch, they were too afraid of cops, stuff like that. It made me so very sad. I still can't believe that weed is illegal in most the country, so sad.
 
When you do end up buying some synthetic cannabinoids, don't go all out and buy a whole shit ton, test it out first.
Chances are you might not like it near as much, but if you do then give 'er shit
 
First off, it costs too much.
Secondly it is illegal and you can't smoke it wherever and whenever you want (which you can with noids)
If weed was free and legal I would chose it over noids and of course I smoke it but I do love the high from the cannabinoids I've tried

QFT. After smoking weed for years it basically lost all it effects and just became a hole in my wallet. Also there is the annoyance of having to deal with actual drug dealers, rather than buying your stuff online (I know you can buy your weed online too but there are fucking ludicrous prices on the road etc).

Still, I'd much rather smoke weed if it were cheaper and legal.
 
I have to say I tried a lot of herbal blends, I didnt like any of them, then I found Calyptia incese. I have to say it is very different to other legal blends, but its is very similar to weed, it is good legal replacement I have to say... i have been using it for a while now, and I never had any problems...
 
I strongly feel like the RC's should be last resort.
like if that is your ONLY chance to get high when you're fiending.

if you have the option,I would strongly suggest smoking REGULAR bud instead.
it has less potency(than the strongest RCs),but you get to keep your life.

it's a good deal.
 
Wow that was a fucked up post. I've been smoking spice and raw chems again. After a 1 year addiction to Am2201. Now I'm addicted again. NZ law means that spice products must contain drug dosage per gram, herbal carrier and drug type. So I mail order from across the pond. The shit is everywhere here in OZ. It's as easy to buy as cigarettes. Now it's been 3 days no smoking noids. This post looked like shit because I was high on the crap probably when I posted it. If you can handle it and not get addicted and use it responsibly and you know the risks vs rewards no drama enjoy. I'm going to have to detox of this crap again...
 
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Those 'spices' that you find at head shops, of supposedly synthetic cannabinoids, just spell trouble waiting to happen - they are pure RC's, as we don't know what's in them, and the only thing it ['spice'] compares itself to, weed, is completely different as a drug compound.

The only arguments I'm seeing on this thread for spices over actual weed are that 1 - 'spice' or whatever is legal at the moment, and 2 - 'spice' is supposedly cheaper.

OK, first off, weed used to be legal too, man, just because it isn't right now (think...Mexican workers coming to southern America in the early 20th century...they were thought to be lazy and this was associated with their marijuana use...) doesn't mean it should be. I get that drug tests suck - you think I don't know that? But if that's the issue, well, you may as well just accept the fact that you are part of the matrix, unfortunately, so either don't smoke weed, because you can't, or find a job that doesn't drug test. The 'spice', fake weed, is actually bad for your body...does anyone get that?? Spice is man-made, out of ingredients that you can find at hardware stores - it is not a plant!!!!!! It's not even fake weed, it's just an abomination.

And also, weed isn't cheap, but come on people, it's not like coke or some shit! OK, it's more expensive than a pack of cigarettes, but it's definitely not more expensive to get high as shit once or twice a week compared to, say, getting drunk as shit at a local bar - and actually, it'd easily be cheaper to smoke weed for one night a week than to go and buy a lot of expensive beers over the counter.

I personally think that a lot of people's complaints about how much weed costs are just based in trying to find SOME argument against smoking weed...if used in strict moderation, like it should be, it's really not that big of an expense, just saying.

Lastly, if you can't deal with dealers, that's kind of sad...a little social interaction never hurt anyone...I think a lot of people these days think the drug game is exactly like what they see in 'The Wire' or 'Breaking Bad' on TV. Hate to break it to you guys, but those shows weren't about weed dealers, they were about drug kingpins who dealt in heroin, coke, meth, etc...in other words, HARD drugs, with huge networks. Trying to compare the underground of weed dealers to that shit is pretty ludicrous.

Anyway, if you don't even know where I'm coming from, then I don't know what to say to you. I've seen some pretty ignorant posts on this thread, keep it real guys...
 
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The times I smoked spice I didn't have a good time at all. I became so full of anxiety that I plain couldn't function. I always ended up cleaning my house in case the cops came. Horrible stuff spice is. I have to agree with Benny. Though I don't smoke I suggest you just buy pot and synthetic urine instead of synthetic pot.

JWH/all the other shit they put in the smoke blends now make me feel so weird and cracked out. I understand why some people don't like marijuana since they say it makes them feel anxious. If actual weed makes people feel like I feel smoking fake weed then I would stay away too.

The only time it was truly enjoyable was smoking a blend named "kush" while I was on benzos. Now that actually felt pretty damn close to a real high.
 
It seems with my research of acquiring cannabinoids, that i should probably move out of the US. I have checked out websites of vendors and did a little investigation of the dea site and am moderately disappointed. If I am not "big tobacco company" or "big pharma" then i am just SOL. My research shows that the most damaging side effect of anything is the markup from "street sales". arrggh!
 
Perhaps CL-2201, or AB-FUBRINACA, it may be SGT-42, then again PB-22, or 5F PB-22, a nice patented chemical such as SGT-24, or then again S-N-(1-amino-3, 3dimerhyl-1-oxobutan-2-yl)-1-5-fluoropenty-1H-indole-3-caboxamide, next we have 1-(5-fluoropentyl)-3-(4-fluoro-1-naphthoyl)indole (this may be AM 2201 not 100% and if so illegal in the USA) there are also a couple of other SGT patented chemicals I have not listed. These will be every synthetic noid tokers new best friends.

If you can get the raw chemical then go for gold! I've smoked noids heaps and it really does nothing good for me. I have a bad cough, my apartment was a disgusting sty and I was smoking blends or raw chemicals added to various herbs usually dissolved in cheap vodka and spread all about in a baking dish and then oven or air dried. Got quite a few hot spots but I just didn't care. It's like these things took over my life... again. This is the second time I've gotten hooked on noids and it's not pretty. If you can use them responsibly by all means enjoy but I have a serious addiction issue with these synthetic noids and as an asthmatic they fuck my lungs up good. I've had 2 days no smoking and even as I type I'm feeling the urge. I can get a blend from a store 800 meters from where I live. Actually there are 3 stores in that radius.

I want my life back I want to be organized and live in a clean environment not a shit hole. These things just make me sit and smoke and as soon as I feel the high dropping I smoke again and each time I need a little bit more to get high. Not that I'm having seizures or vomiting like some previous chemicals have made me do in fact a couple feel a hell of a lot like strong hydro bud but just a bit more intense. That is why I like them so much but the 45 minute high is so short and tolerance builds so fast. I realized I had to stop when I smoked 7 grams of a blend in 1 day because I'd run out of my home made noid mix (CL 2201 and 5f PB-22) and I'd only received 1 gram of each a week ago... Now I sound like I work in a coal mine every time I cough. Please people go easy on the stuff it can be addictive as hell if you let your guard down and this is my 2nd fuck up with noids... hope there is not a third.
 
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That stuff you posted in the other thread didn't make much sense and I googled it. All I know is that this spice, is opening doors for me. I had 3 lucid dreams in a row. I might have to start logging because they are dreams within dreams, and I always end up drowning in water, then swimming towards the shore with the option of picking up a nearby gun and robbing cars and shit. Do you think I got result in death because of these dreams? <snip>
 
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The post you quoted wasnt talking about your post.


Concerning your posts:
Directly from the Cannabis Discussion rules:
No substance ID questions in CD. We can't guess at what you have over the internet.
We dont do substance IDs on Bluelight because we have no way of knowing what drugs you are using without a full GC/MS report.
 
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Sorry this was my first time coming across such a post in future I go to the forum main page and PM any mod about the post? Cheers

That stuff you posted in the other thread didn't make much sense and I googled it. All I know is that this spice, is opening doors for me. I had 3 lucid dreams in a row. I might have to start logging because they are dreams within dreams, and I always end up drowning in water, then swimming towards the shore with the option of picking up a nearby gun and robbing cars and shit. Do you think I got result in death because of these dreams? <snip>

Mate sounds like this stuff is sending you fucking mental get off it and never touch it again. Some people shouldn't do certain drugs and some people should not do any drugs period. If you can't understand what your potentially doing to yourself and weigh up risk vs reward you are not in a fit state of mind to be using such substances. Do you want a cough like a back firing car? I don't so I'm quitting and I suggest you do the same. Read my post above does that sound like a fun time? Do you want to lose your life to a cheap substance knocked out of a lab in China cause your posts seem to indicate that's what is happening already. What your describing is almost a break from reality and psychosis... Mr nice guy could have any one of dozens of substances do you understand NO ONE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. Get a grip and get rid of this shit. The only door it sounds like your blend will open is the psych ward.

And I hate ^^this^^ response. I'm not even going to bother with a back-and-forth with you-- I'll just leave you with the sentiment that I don't like you much after reading through that many exclamation points.

As for the Spice: don't do it, mang. You've no way of finding out what you're smokin' on short of a chemical analysis. Find a reputable source/vendor and purchase research chemicals directly from them. Spice is just a headache waiting to happen.
Actually if you lived in New Zealand by law every "spice" product would be required to identify it's contents including RC noid and dosage per gram but I guess you live in the USA were things are not so black and white but like here in Australia a very heavy shade of grey...

The new noids are not even distant cousins of JWH. Definition of an addictive drug one that rapidly raises plasma levels to peak and drops just as fast. Think crack. These new noids are very much like crack in terms of addiction potential as I have found out and now have to go through the hell of detoxing while the shit is all over the place.
 
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