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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

To the poster suffering withdrawals I sympathise!...a quick check of my buying history shows that in the last 3 months I have smoked in excess of 4g per week of my new favourite 5f-pb22 (if I didn't work full-time this would be significantly higher I believe).

This really is incredibly potent stuff. I find myself getting in from work, smoking a one sheeter, passing out after half of it, wake up an hour later, complete spliff, fall asleep, wake up and re-skin, ad-infinitum until about an hour before work so that my eyes don't look too twisted.

I have no idea on dosing really as I just pour the powder directly from the bag into the joint for an amount that seems right. HR alert! Obviously this is dumb as hell but with my tolerance where it is it just makes sense.

When I run out I only sleep a couple of hours a night and simply cannot eat more than two slices of toast in 24 hours, it is very difficult!

I have done CT on long-term subutex, methadone and heroin and it's not really comparable but the chest pains, twitches, insomnia, liquid shits etc. are all present and correct and pretty worrying if only for a day or two.

God only knows what I'm doing to myself!
 
backroll said:
To the poster suffering withdrawals I sympathise!...a quick check of my buying history shows that in the last 3 months I have smoked in excess of 4g per week of my new favourite 5f-pb22 (if I didn't work full-time this would be significantly higher I believe).

This really is incredibly potent stuff. I find myself getting in from work, smoking a one sheeter, passing out after half of it, wake up an hour later, complete spliff, fall asleep, wake up and re-skin, ad-infinitum until about an hour before work so that my eyes don't look too twisted.

I have no idea on dosing really as I just pour the powder directly from the bag into the joint for an amount that seems right. HR alert! Obviously this is dumb as hell but with my tolerance where it is it just makes sense.

When I run out I only sleep a couple of hours a night and simply cannot eat more than two slices of toast in 24 hours, it is very difficult!

I have done CT on long-term subutex, methadone and heroin and it's not really comparable but the chest pains, twitches, insomnia, liquid shits etc. are all present and correct and pretty worrying if only for a day or two.

God only knows what I'm doing to myself!
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For a post this insane it just sounds like you're joking. You don't care about yourself if you're telling the truth, that's obvious.
 
Lol I also have to admit I got withdrawals now after smoking approximately 300mg daily of various synth 'noids for about half a year. Tried cold turkey, felt shitty for a week and got tired and started smoking again. Thought the post above with 4g a week sounded alot, but I go through 2,5g a week usually so it's not that insane to be honest...

The whole point was to switch back to weed but who knows if that's ever going to be possible, after not smoking anything for a week I smoked a gram of some good weed and felt nothing, very frustrating.

AB-FUBINACA is the best thing to hit the shelves since the JWH-series by the way. If you, like me, are tired of all the new 'noids with their increasingly psychotic highs, you'll probably enjoy this one as it was really mellow. Best thing since 073/018 in my oppinion :)
 
Thing is, you just don't expect your tolerance to rise AT ALL, it's the same with all drugs init?...then as usual you tend to break it down financially...so for me £25 (for around 4) a week aint all that is it?

Fortunately I get paid bi-monthly so with my rent and all that it means I have to not smoke it for a few days here and there. As soon as I get 2 days of sobriety I'm not even that all fixated on it anymore...but when the money or the time comes available...you know how drugs are!

Massive EDIT:

True, I do not care about myself a lot of the time, and have a hugely traumatic situation ongoing so it's blatantly the reason why. But hey i'm not after sympathy as there is a light at the end of this tunnel, and it's brighter than the sun :)

Cheers for the concern
 
^I remember when I got my first bag of JWH-018, I smoked 2mg or something and got really high for almost half a day. "Oh my god this is great, this 5g bag will last me forever". A few weeks later it was empty.

tolerance on synthetics skyrocket, to be honest I am surprised that some people seem to be able to still get high everyday without resorting to riddiculous dosages. Though I might have a theory, let's try it out! I wonder if you (above poster) like me smoke the synthetics pure (as in not making blends) while others who make blends (thenightwatch for example) have kept their tolerance down due to not as easily overdoing it.
 
how does AB-FUBINACA compare to EAM-2201?

i've only tried maybe a quarter of this current generation of cannabinoids, but i can't imagine EAM-2201 being topped. the stuff is divine.

Toz said:
I wonder if you (above poster) like me smoke the synthetics pure (as in not making blends) while others who make blends (thenightwatch for example) have kept their tolerance down due to not as easily overdoing it.
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i think there's something to that theory

i had a friend that would go through a gram of pure AM-2201 a day. i hooked him up with some of my blends, and they lasted him awhile. his theory was that the blends were less wasteful.... he said the herbs helped his lungs to absorb the chemicals more easily. he normally smoked his pure chems off of foil, though, which seems particularly wasteful/inefficient to me.

like drinking from a water fountain. you always end up wasting some.
 
Testing Spice

Hi there, I am a new visitor/member on Bluelight, it's been a while I surf on it, very interesting topics here!

I wanted to know if anyone already tested Spice (a mix of several synthetic herbs) ??

Thx for your time!
 
^^^ I would like to know this as well if anyone else has a AB-FUBINACA comparison to EAM-2201.

Also does anyone know what a good ratio would be for a AB-FUBINACA mix ?
 
EAM 2201 is if I remember correctly is somewhat more potent than AB-FUBINACA.

EAM-2201 is a more psychotic high like AM-2201 for me, ab fubinaca is more mellow and relaxed.

They are both good 'noids though I prefer AB-FUBINACA due to it's more mellow effects and longer duration.

Can't offer any help on ratio for blends because my doses are insane.
 
right fuck faces...im back!

Ain't smoked any in let me see now...almost exactly 2 weeks, towards the end the worst was 3g of pure 5f-pb22 in 24 hours...yeahhhhhh baby.

So a load of shit had been going on in my life to warrant such terrible behaviour...but equally enough good stuff to not be doing it and focus!

I was about to get a promotion (offered in midst of addiction) and a pay rise in an industry I loved, I had secure, comfortable, cheap living for a year in an amazing part of london (with a 3 minute walk to work), I had pussy left, right, center, all the money I needed, I had begun dj-ing again (for cash as well!!!) etc etc. All Sounds sweet????!!!!!!!

AND THEN...

I took a 2 week PAID holiday, and never came back.......well I did sort of...I went back to London but never back to work...I just kept ringing in sick with lame excuses but really I was just either too high, or too strung-out roaming around London looking for headshops with lame ass bags of synths sprayed on marshmallow and damiana just to tie me over til the realness came in the post the next day. I used to call these 3g foil sealed bags my methadone because they never really got me high, but they kept the demons at bay (I used to be a heroin addict, I could only describe the sensation of this high as as frustrating as getting given a bag of almost pure bash, but something that only kept the sickness at bay for a couple a hours, (if there was ever a day when I couldn't score some, or didn't for whatever reason, I would be doing some crazy cracked out shit in my bedroom looking for stray grains of powder, or flecks of incense to light up... I ended up smoking all kinds of nasty carpet crap, dodgy dust and bedroom baccy to try and get high)...so anyways shit got too much (like I said I had other things going on...eg. DEEPEST SHIT) and one day I just text (YES TEXT) my boss to say I wasn't coming back ever again (we hadn't spoken since the day I left for holiday), I told my landlord I was leaving in a few days and begged a close one in a different city to come get me out of dodge! She obliged thank christ!

So...because I was doing the right thing for me as a person (I really needed to leave London anyway for my fucking spiritual well-being, the drug thing was a side-issue TRUST, certainly a symptom, not a fucking cause) the withdrawals I ended up suffering weren't too bad (compared to other binges and runs with these unique, and cracky as hell short acting cb1 and separately cb2 mother-fuckers), 2 night of insomnia ONLY, and within 4 days I was eating over 3 meals a day, and after 7 days honestly felt perfect :)

Anyways...got a new job IN THAT TIME, put on over a stone in 2 weeks, sleep 7 hours everynight, the other thing is sorting itself out...THANK GOD, and shit is alright.

But damn....If England had been up to drug-testing me properly for these new crazy chemicals (by hair, blood, piss, or shit) then I wouldnt have fully took advantage! I wouldn't have found the loop-hole! I wouldn't have done the short-cut niga! The jobs for the boys! But look how bad I got! Grams and grams of pure synths a week alongside ounces of blends and incenses.

Well fuck it, just a standard addicts story...but how would this have been different if I was allowed to smoke a natural plant that grows freely on my planet? Sure I would still be going through this external BULLSHIT that happened to me, but DAMN would I have suffered. And that ain't even the half of it8(
 
You will find a lot of reports about "spice".
Just an ad vice, don't buy already-made blends. Just buy raw cannabinoids, they're cheap-ass and you know what you buy .
As for experiences, I've neve tried 'spice" but I've tried ur-144 and 5f - akb48
If you nave any questione just ask
 
3g 5f-pb22 in 24 hours, that's alot. Too much actually, did you even feel anything from smoking that much? I find it unworthy to increase the dosage after ~20mg each with most cannabinoids. You just won't get more high, just more tired. If you were smoking 3 grams in a day you must have railed like 150mg on foil every time you smoked. That's just insane.
 
What's wrong with regular cannabis? I'm assuming access or work related issues. Many cannabioids are as dangerous as weed is safe. You probably won't have serious side effects, but you can. Unlike weed you might seriously hurt yourself with long term use of synthetics. I'm not trying to judge or belittle you, but you gotta remember these synthetics are still RC's
 
The times I smoked spice I didn't have a good time at all. I became so full of anxiety that I plain couldn't function. I always ended up cleaning my house in case the cops came. Horrible stuff spice is. I have to agree with Benny. Though I don't smoke I suggest you just buy pot and synthetic urine instead of synthetic pot.
 
i bought a gram of EAM-2201 in mid July, and i'm almost out of that. and i feel like that was too quickly.

and i've been high for most of the last two months.
 
ab-fubinaca ratio

nickelz346 said:
^^^ I would like to know this as well if anyone else has a AB-FUBINACA comparison to EAM-2201.

Also does anyone know what a good ratio would be for a AB-FUBINACA mix ?
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so far testing with this noid in lab is amazing !

A good ratio for to start with for us was 1:1 .
 
bennyZA said:
What's wrong with regular cannabis? I'm assuming access or work related issues. Many cannabioids are as dangerous as weed is safe. You probably won't have serious side effects, but you can. Unlike weed you might seriously hurt yourself with long term use of synthetics. I'm not trying to judge or belittle you, but you gotta remember these synthetics are still RC's
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loads of fucking reasons pal, you even mention them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you answered your own question! he has already decided to take the plunge, keep your misplaced hr and lack of knowledge to yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!...I hate this response...it is meaningless, he is asking about synthetic cannabis not fucking weed mate, jog on. And yes I do fully believe you are trying to belittle, that much seems obvious!
 
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