[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

[hx_]

yeah AM-2233 fucks with your head, and not as in mentally. causes weird sinus and ear pressure.

Do you know of there any specific reason why this could happen? I've noticed that it's hugely way less pronounced when taken orally and that's the way I've used almost all of mine.

 

[pharmakos]

no clue

 

[Jesusgreen]

Has anyone else out there managed to avoid the crazy tolerance increases people are reporting? I'm seeing so many people buying grams of AM-2201 for example and smoking it all in a few weeks because they kept redosing and their tolerance skyrocketed.

When I last bought AM-2201 I bought 250mg, and it lasted me just over 11 months, when I smoked 6-7 days a week, often multiple times a day. My tolerance hadn't risen much by the end of the 11 months either. The only time I noticed any notable tolerance was during a period of 2-3 weeks when I was smoking it repeatedly all day, but then after a couple of weeks break my tolerance was back to normal again.

 

[hx_]

Has anyone else out there managed to avoid the crazy tolerance increases people are reporting? I'm seeing so many people buying grams of AM-2201 for example and smoking it all in a few weeks because they kept redosing and their tolerance skyrocketed.

When I last bought AM-2201 I bought 250mg, and it lasted me just over 11 months, when I smoked 6-7 days a week, often multiple times a day. My tolerance hadn't risen much by the end of the 11 months either. The only time I noticed any notable tolerance was during a period of 2-3 weeks when I was smoking it repeatedly all day, but then after a couple of weeks break my tolerance was back to normal again.

Most of the tollerance issues I found were caused by redosing before the first dose had worn off, then 20 mins later, then 20 mins later and again till it's all gone. I found it really compulsive stuff.

 

[David the Chansey]

Most of the tollerance issues I found were caused by redosing before the first dose had worn off, then 20 mins later, then 20 mins later and again till it's all gone. I found it really compulsive stuff.

Now this I can agree with. I've finally rinsed my stash of cannabinoids, so it's time for a tolerance break at last!

 

[t6apb]

ok so ive just bought a bag of mam-2201 incense blend, i would buy the powder but dont have decent enough scales to weigh up 1-3mg at a time..

last time i tried synthetic stuff was an incense blend of am-2233 and am-2201. i found it intensely strong for about 10mins then fades out over the last 20mins then bam your sober ha.

does mam-2201 last longer?

music appreciation?

munchies?

 

[djfumon]

hello,
I'm worried because I read that synthetic cannabinoids are unhealthy, and some people have died after smoking them.

I hope you can clarify this doubt.

Thanks

 

[David the Chansey]

It's so easy to lose yourself to cannabinoids.

 

[t6apb]

just had a small bong hit of mam2201 blend. real nice, mellow and quite euphoric. it feels strange to be stoned but without any crazyness and mind racing etc i tend to only smoke weed with benzos but on this i could probs not even use them, i am going to tho cos i can imagine them be very nice together.

music appreciation is definitely up there, music sounds really fresh and different. also loving that it lasts alot longer than previous blends ive tried, pretty consistent too, i still feel high as i did when i first toked with no signs of wearing off too quickly.

definitely feel chatty and up rather than all introverted thinking about every little thing.

massively surprised by this synthetic, they have defo come along way

shame its getting banned, ah well glad i bought a fat sack of it for next to nothing :D

 

[djfumon]

I'm living in a very religious country, I am addicted to marijuana, the problem is that here is really expensive, *NO PRICES* = 3g.

I am planning to buy herbal incense, but I read that are unhealthy, can you help?

 

[hx_]

So whats the question?

And herb 'master', stop double/triple/quadruple posting in a row, there's an edit button for a reason...


Btw, has anyone got any experiences to share of AKB-48 or AKB-48f/5F-AKB-48? These are relatively new ones which are likely to still be legal after the UK ban next Tuesday.

 

[N0 W4RN1NG]

So whats the question?

And herb 'master', stop double/triple/quadruple posting in a row, there's an edit button for a reason...


Btw, has anyone got any experiences to share of AKB-48 or AKB-48f/5F-AKB-48? These are relatively new ones which are likely to still be legal after the UK ban next Tuesday.

5F-AKB48 is a great compound, I have posted experiences with it several times in this very thread, use the search function for better clarity.

@Jesusgreen, I have been smoking synthetics for at least half a decade (5+ years) and still have a very low tolerance. My trick is I only smoke at night (mostly) and I don't smoke compulsively like redosing every half hour.

Also, I only use pure chemicals, not blends. This may come into play because I always use the same dose each time, never accidentally using more and fucking up my tolerance.

 

[David the Chansey]

Btw, has anyone got any experiences to share of AKB-48 or AKB-48f/5F-AKB-48? These are relatively new ones which are likely to still be legal after the UK ban next Tuesday.

AKB-48 is good. For me, it's quite stimulating, and doesn't leave me feeling stupid like most cannabinoids do.

AKB-48f, on the other hand... oh boy. My friends agree with me when I say it's quite easy to over-do, and the consequences are panic attacks that are not to be taken lightly. Even if you don't take too much, it's not as enjoyable as most other cannabinoids out there.

MAM-2201 is the best by far.

 

[N0 W4RN1NG]

^ Are you quite sure you have the right materials?

Regular AKB-48 is quite sedating for most people, myself included, and you're the FIRST person I've heard say otherwise.

5F-AKB48 (or as you put it, "AKB-48f") can give you some panic attacks in an overdose, but they aren't nearly as bad as some other cannabinoids, like AM-2201, 5F-PB22, etc...I would say MAM-2201 gives worse panic attacks than 5F-AKB48 honestly...

I will agree that MAM-2201{5F-JWH122} is quite good, but it isn't available in the USA. EAM-2201{5F-JWH210} is available [I think because JWH-210 isn't specifically scheduled and JWH-122 is] and EAM-2201 is quite good, perhaps even better than MAM-2201.

MAM-2201 has better effects all around, but EAM-2201 is strong as SHIT and lasts FOREVER - so all in all it's definitely the winner, if you need a deeper experience, throw some 5F-AKB48 on top of the EAM-2201 and then you're really in the right spot.

 

[David the Chansey]

I definitely need to try EAM-2201, we can agree on that.

Well actually I'm intending to have a few months off, but I'm not gonna lie when I say that the cravings get stronger each time I have a break.

 

[djfumon]

After almost three months without smoking incense, yesterday I went to drink vodka, after 5 hours of drink up 4 glasses:

I started to shake, vomit, and my heart was beating very fast.

is possible that even after three months cannabinoids have on my body?

I'm starting to think they are unhealthy, you are saying?

 

[THCified]

MAM-2201 has better effects all around, but EAM-2201 is strong as SHIT and lasts FOREVER - so all in all it's definitely the winner, if you need a deeper experience, throw some 5F-AKB48 on top of the EAM-2201 and then you're really in the right spot.

What means forever? Only noids i ever really enjoyed where the ones found in this spice/k2 blend, containing cannabicyclohexanol aka. CP 47,497/JWH-018/JWH-073 and/or HU-210.

I think compared to regular weed, this one came closest, even if it lasted forever when ingested orally (forever as in 12hrs+)!

Ok, UR-144 also seems to do the trick, but i've just had it tested one time, so...

 

[pharmakos]

EAM-2201{5F-JWH210} is available [I think because JWH-210 isn't specifically scheduled and JWH-122 is] and EAM-2201 is quite good, perhaps even better than MAM-2201.

EAM-2201 should be covered by the federal synthetic cannabinoid ban. the domestic vendors selling it are playing with fire.

from S. 3187 (112th): Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act
112th Congress, 2011–2013. Text as of Jun 27, 2012 (Passed Congress/Enrolled Bill). ::

SEC. 1152. ADDITION OF SYNTHETIC DRUGS TO SCHEDULE I OF THE CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES ACT.

(a) Cannabimimetic Agents- Schedule I, as set forth in section 202(c) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812(c)) is amended by adding at the end the following:

‘(d)(1) Unless specifically exempted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of cannabimimetic agents, or which contains their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is possible within the specific chemical designation.

‘(2) In paragraph (1):

‘(A) The term ‘cannabimimetic agents’ means any substance that is a cannabinoid receptor type 1 (CB1 receptor) agonist as demonstrated by binding studies and functional assays within any of the following structural classes:

...

‘(ii) 3-(1-naphthoyl)indole or 3-(1-naphthylmethane)indole by substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring, whether or not further substituted on the indole ring to any extent, whether or not substituted on the naphthoyl or naphthyl ring to any extent.

the parallel section from the Michigan bill lists examples of the chemicals that are included in this section

(i) Any compound containing a 3-(1-naphthoyl)indole structure, also known as napthoylindoles, with substitution at the nitrogen atom of the indole ring by an alkyl, haloalkyl, alkenyl, cycloalkylmethyl, cycloalkylethyl, 1-(N-methyl-2-piperidinyl)methyl, or 2-(4-morpholinyl)ethyl group, whether or not further substituted on the indole ring to any extent and whether or not substituted on the naphthyl ring to any extent. Examples of this structural class include but are not limited to: JWH-007, JWH-015, JWH-018, JWH-019, JWH-073, JWH-081, JWH-122, JWH-200, JWH-210, JWH-398, AM-1220, AM-2201, and WIN-55, 212-2.

since EAM-2201 is just fluoro-JWH-122 or ethyl-AM-2201 (depending on which was you look at it), EAM-2201 is definitely included under this section.

 

[foolsgold]

Has anyone else out there managed to avoid the crazy tolerance increases people are reporting? I'm seeing so many people buying grams of AM-2201 for example and smoking it all in a few weeks because they kept redosing and their tolerance skyrocketed.

When I last bought AM-2201 I bought 250mg, and it lasted me just over 11 months, when I smoked 6-7 days a week, often multiple times a day. My tolerance hadn't risen much by the end of the 11 months either. The only time I noticed any notable tolerance was during a period of 2-3 weeks when I was smoking it repeatedly all day, but then after a couple of weeks break my tolerance was back to normal again.

WOW really 250mg has lasted 11 months shit man that's insane iv smoked no word of a lie 3 grams in 24 hours before now that's why i do not bother with them any more i do not get stoned of them i enter a trip state like lsd . its worse when on stims with me its a constant re dose re dose going on then the is fall a sleep for a few hours wake foil re dose re dose . i think the main problem is iv never really had a day off in 20 years of drug abuse so my brain is screwed up to the point of im really missing out on on every thing drugs have to offer now a days its just grabbing at the things it can . but still 250mg in 11 months im going to go and sulk now

so EAM-2201 is another noid i know of one uk site claiming to have this a few months ago but i emailed and asked if it was a miss print and got no reply so guessed that it was think i posted about it in here a few pages back . so is every one cashing in on the up coming ban ?

 

[Back4More420]

[/QUOTE] Warning: If you insist upon using synthetic cannaboids, use them in their pure form, and learn to make your own blends. I have posted a video guide on how to do this in the last edition of this thread. You can do the work finding it.


Ok I cant find your video. Where is it. Sorry im new here.