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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 3

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haveyoufoundgod said:
out of all these people here somebody is bound to have at least a little information on that, maybe knows somebody who makes it and sells it and therefore knows what chemicals are available for use/cheapest?
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You are speaking to one - I am telling you that it changes often, and it can be almost anything. There are blends out there that still contain JWH varients that have been illegal for years, as well as it's run off toxins [the one I produced included JWH-018, -073, -081, 205, and 251 in changed ratios per batch]. There is -no- way to tell you what is in a specific blend, there is only speculation based off of comparison. Even providing a specific brand name and blend (which we discourage due to stealth product promotion) won't get you anywhere. I don't know what you aren't understanding about this.
 
Chainer said:
You are speaking to one - I am telling you that it changes often, and it can be almost anything. There are blends out there that still contain JWH varients that have been illegal for years, as well as it's run off toxins [the one I produced included JWH-018, -073, -081, 205, and 251 in changed ratios per batch]. There is -no- way to tell you what is in a specific blend, there is only speculation based off of comparison. Even providing a specific brand name and blend (which we discourage due to stealth product promotion) won't get you anywhere. I don't know what you aren't understanding about this.
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okay i guess i should have been a little more clear it's my bad. i buy my k2 from a gas station that gets it from a consistent source which i've found to be pretty up to date with the laws.. i was wondering if somebody could tell me what research chemicals aren't effected by the most recent ban?? that would answer my question for me.
sorry about the confusion.
 
Ahhh so much more clear, now that is a complicated answer.

It's easiest to approach this from a view of WHAT HAS BEEN BANNED:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabis#Legal_status

And now to the part of the answer that you will not like -- there are hundreds and hundreds of variations, new ones popping up every month, many of them proclaimed to be EVEN BETTER THAN THE LASTTT! The truth is, they are usually small modifications that skirt the recent ban list by altering small compounds to provide a new name, for a designer drug that has not yet been banned, sometimes becoming more and more mild as the jobs become more sloppy. There are a lot of things to take into consideration here, but the end point is this: the stuff they use changes very often, especially if you think the blend you are buying is staying as up to date as possible with what synthetics are being used in the blend.

My suggestion is something I've said 100s of times: learn how to make your own blends, or find a local headshop that has a local supplier who can tell you exactly, down to the last ingrediate plant matter material, is in the blend. When I was involved before any of these bans, every package had the ratio and product used. I've posted videos in this thread, the last thread, and the thread before that on exactly how to make your own blends.
 
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To be honest, some chemical suppliers don't even bother to check if the substance is legal to export to your country or not haha ;)
Not like I'd order illegal chemicals online, of course. I'd never do such a thing. Never.
 
Chainer said:
Ahhh so much more clear, now that is a complicated answer.

It's easiest to approach this from a view of WHAT HAS BEEN BANNED:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabis#Legal_status

And now to the part of the answer that you will not like -- there are hundreds and hundreds of variations, new ones popping up every month, many of them proclaimed to be EVEN BETTER THAN THE LASTTT! The truth is, they are usually small modifications that skirt the recent ban list by altering small compounds to provide a new name, for a designer drug that has not yet been banned, sometimes becoming more and more mild as the jobs become more sloppy. There are a lot of things to take into consideration here, but the end point is this: the stuff they use changes very often, especially if you think the blend you are buying is staying as up to date as possible with what synthetics are being used in the blend.
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well yeah that makes sense the new stuff doesn't make me high as long but i don't act like a fiend and a half when i have to go without for a day and i don't get sick.
i suppose i should start lowering my intake a bit.

David the Chansey said:
To be honest, some chemical suppliers don't even bother to check if the substance is legal to export to your country or not haha ;)
Not like I'd order illegal chemicals online, of course. I'd never do such a thing. Never.
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they don't check to see what it is??
 
haveyoufoundgod said:
they don't check to see what it is??
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It's not generally that easy - though the DEA has seized and lab tested in the past. It's not as if every package gets scanned - he is correct, lots of illegal product makes its way overseas. Lots of it is produced here once the powder synthetic is shipped into the States, and then applied onto plant material and sold and packaged within the states to small headshops.
 
Chainer said:
It's not generally that easy - though the DEA has seized and lab tested in the past. It's not as if every package gets scanned - he is correct, lots of illegal product makes its way overseas. Lots of it is produced here once the powder synthetic is shipped into the States, and then applied onto plant material and sold and packaged within the states to small headshops.
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okay, so you're telling me i could theoretically buy these powder synthetics and they won't check what it is??
 
haveyoufoundgod said:
okay, so you're telling me i could theoretically buy these powder synthetics and they won't check what it is??
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I'm thinking you're talking about your personal thoughts on weighing risk v reward, and that's something you may want to reconsider discussing on a public forum ;)

Ho-Chi-Minh said:
this is dangerous discussion
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It generally is in this thread. The concept of smuggling drugs is hardly a new concept. Obviously it is not encouraged here.
 
Chainer said:
I'm thinking you're talking about your personal thoughts on weighing risk v reward, and that's something you may want to reconsider discussing on a public forum ;)

Ho-Chi-Minh said:
this is dangerous discussion
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It generally is in this thread. The concept of smuggling drugs is hardly a new concept. Obviously it is not encouraged here.
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my bad bros.
still learning.
 
Oops, sorry to derail the topic. Getting back on track, I consumed 10mg of UR-144 orally 3.5 hours ago. I'm clearly not out of my head, but the calming effects are definitely more pronounced. At this level it's just a mood lifter. I also feel quite tired.

Edit: 2 mins later... ok, now I feel high.
 
Yesterday, I tried a new blend and it has turned me off to ever smoking any synthetic cannibinoids again. My friends and I bought two bags of "California Kronic Herbal Incense 7x". I have previously tried "K2", "K3", and "Mr. Nice Guy" multiple times before trying the California Kronic with no problems at all. I packed my bowl fat with the incense and took a monster rip, holding it in for as long as I could. Right as I exhaled, I knew something was weird about this shit. Things began to feel weird. My perception of everything completely changed. The first thing I said after I took the hit was, "I am so ever-lovingly fucked up". My hands started to shake and I started sweating. Then I started to realize how fast my heart was beating. It was easily going 150bpm - 160bpm. I was keeping cool until the scariest feeling that I could have possibly felt happened. It started to feel like my throat was swelling up, and indeed, it was, as were my cheeks. This made breathing incredibly difficult which was very scary. Thankfully, after laying down for an hour and a half, I felt better. I only took one hit of this shit and all of those things happened. Imagine if I smoked a whole bag? This shit is fucked up and isn't even worth risking the experience I had. I have never in my entire life had such a bad experience with a drug. That is coming from a person who has eaten nutmeg, done dramamine, has had bad trips on acid and mushrooms, and has overdosed on Welbutrin. I will never smoke sythetics again.
 
Very likely had a strong dose of and older banned JWH varients, like 018, very panic inducing, as well as others. Heard similar complaints before and then heard suspensions of run-off waste product. Also the blend could have had some fucked up plant matter, or any number of stimulant RCs.

This is why I urge people not to smoke pre-packaged blends. I'm glad you are alright now.
 
I suffered the exact same thing from 10mg of AM-2201 taken orally. Although because of this ROA, the peak lasted for 3 hours, and time felt 3 times slower. Bad times :(
 
icekila Smoked like this for 2 months, should be worried


well i could not tell you for sure mate just be a bit more careful not to burn it . its got to the point i have a fiscal reaction just to the idea of smoking the stuff now like my brain is saying this stuff aint good for you and not just in the way its screwing with you mind but its really doing something to your insides
 
Anyone else here being enjoying MAM-2201 ? I just recently started on it this last week. It does seem completely different to the handful of other noids i'd tried until now. No panics, no out of control thoughts or paranoia. It' very calm, relaxing & 'noddy' IMO, seems to act more like an opiod or a benzo than a cannabinoid ?

Any one agree/disagree ? Have any response to make ?
 
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foolsgold said:
yes i tried it about 3 or 4 months ago found it to have a very so come on compered to am-2201 i all ways wondered though if its just a less cut am-2201
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:? Sorry. i dont quite understand your post.... did you mean to say "slow" come on, and "more cut", meaning diluted/weaker than am-2201? Wondering if the vendor sent me a mislabelled bag and it is actually a benzo or opioid that i have.....dont think so though, they are probably the most reliable vendor there is in the uk....
 
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