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[MEGA]Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion- 2nd Toke

I appreciate it a lot my friend. But thanks for letting everyone know, as if I don't get enough PMs about synthetics as it is :)
 
HeavilySedated said:
I just wrote all this, smoked a bowl, and BOOM - it's happening! I'm coming up now, and I definitely notice fear starting to build up. 8o sure hope I'm going to do ok from now on.

Edit - high up, fear virtually gone. doing ok.
Anyway, now that I'm high I'm getting an idea how to aid anxiety go away:

Make your selves a small credit card size note, goes straight in the wallet. On it you write mantras people with anxiety disorder memorize:
1. DON'T continually check for your heart beat! The high makes it feel much quicker than it really is, and besides, no one ever got a heart attack from weed. So cool down.
2. The high is temporary, and you're not likely to remember the essence of these fears when you become sober.
3. Don't remain in the same position. Move around and try to divert your thoughts. also, don't change settings too much (outdoors/inside).
4. Don't try franticly calling anyone you know, just so you can talk to someone. You'll become aware of the confusion in your own voice and become even more freaked out.
5. Music rarely stops anxiety, much better to go out for a quite walk.
6. and last: Fear rushes can also be enjoyed! Think about it like a roller coaster. You know it's safe, so stop holding on to the bars.
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=D Thank you for this post man. I used to be a daily smoker and I never felt I overdid it as I always smoked after I got things done. One day I just had a massive anxiety attack and ran into hospital thinking I was going to die as I never had experienced an attack before. Was a horrific time and I stopped smoking. I occasionally have some with my girlfriend after a half year break and I get anxious but try to enjoy it. This has really helped me enjoy the high like I used to. I know I can smoke still as when I'm coming down off mdma or drank I can smoke just fine without or a little anxiety. Otherwise the anxiety is always present and I always try and fight it. As I speak (just smoked and thought i'd check bluelight for tips) I feel hardly any anxiety. Almost as good as I remember it before the attack :)

As a past smoker who likes to dip in now and again, I really recommend these pointers as a guide. Rambled on a wee bit.... AND I DONT CARE. ;)
 
Anybody here care to share their negative Cannabis experiences and how they relate to the use of other drugs? As someone who freaked out during 95% of all smoke sessions (1 of these sessions resulted in a panic attack that manifested itself in projectile vomiting, chest pains, and schizophrenic-type thought patterns.) What I'm asking is, if Cannabis doesn't agree with you, do other hallucinogens cause you to panic as well?
 
^I find LSD to be much less anxiogenic than cannabis these days, and I'm not the only one by a long shot. You have to understand that you're gong to experience a selection bias asking in here, because the vast majority of CD posters are going to be people with whom cannabis does agree.
 
Yerg said:
^I find LSD to be much less anxiogenic than cannabis these days, and I'm not the only one by a long shot. You have to understand that you're gong to experience a selection bias asking in here, because the vast majority of CD posters are going to be people with whom cannabis does agree.
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True, but I figured that a good number of posters in here have experience with other hallucinogens as well.

I have actually heard the same thing about LSD. I think these panics are from the activation of the cannabinoid receptors in particular, but there is no way to prove this.
 
^Sure, a lot of us do, but we all like weed. I'm sure (literally, I know) that PD has plenty of seasoned trippers who do not smoke weed and do not enjoy it at all.
 
Yerg said:
^Sure, a lot of us do, but we all like weed. I'm sure (literally, I know) that PD has plenty of seasoned trippers who do not smoke weed and do not enjoy it at all.
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I may try making a thread there, thanks. Never even occurred to me :D

mcbooker said:
and It, like all drugs, is toxic to the body. If your awareness
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I wouldn't say that weed is as toxic to the body as it is shattering to the soul.

That sounds really gay, but that's the only way I can explain it. I really doubt that my panic attacks, as well as numerous others, were the result of toxicity from THC or any other cannabinoid.
 
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Has anyone experienced full body tension while high? I thought I was gonna be paralyzed or something last night.
 
^Yes, they talk about them in this thread, which you could have found with the search engine.
 
just went through this whole thread and found nothing on smoking 122 or 203 let alone any info.
 
Huh, I found this
JWH-122 - Very long lasting, something that has made this cannabinoid the current favorite for me, although I still want another option. It lasts for about 3-5 hours depending on tolerance, this lets me relax without having the need to constantly refill like I do on other cannabinoids. It also saves a lot of beating on the throat. However, on higher doses this cannabinoid is very anxiety-inducing, and it can be hell having a bad trip for about 2-3 hours since it's so long lasting. On higher doses I get open and closed eye visuals, really fucked up thoughts and I start hearing voices in my head. Normally this would all be very fun, but added to these effects is a layer of anxiety which makes everything scary, it always ends up with me trying to calm myself down, cursing myself for smoking so much and eventually going to bed to relax and trying to get rid of the nasty anxiety.
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In 5 seconds because I used the search engine
Then if you had read the first post of this thread:
This is the place for all general synthetic cannabinoid questions. You are likely to find much of the information you are looking for in the old thread, it will save your time and our server space if you search before asking new questions.
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And followed those instructions, i.e. used the search engine, you would have found:
Ive only tried JWH-122 and 250 and both have caused me to be very worried about my circulatory health while on them
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Finally tried a new synthetic cannabinoid. JWH-122, the 4-methylated version of JWH-018, is a fuckin winner. I have a serious tolerance to cannabinoids from years of JWH-018, bud, and hash toking. JWH-122 got me baked like I haven't been in months. Seems to last longer than JWH-018.

I'm considering switching to -122 if the legality issues surrounding 018 keep the price outrageously high and availability low.
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omg i tried jwh-122 today for the first time today. I took it and nothing happened so I went along with my day after a couple hours. 5 hours later it kicked in HARD cause I redosed after 1.5 hrs because I didn't feel anything. I was also out with my family eating dinner so it was fucking terrifying trying to act normal when the whole room is spinning and I feel an insane amt of anxiety. My chest and neck is in a lot of pain now, because they were tensed the whole time I was sitting with my family.

stay awy from jwh-122..
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I could go on. Next time, please use the search engine. Here is a link to a guide to using the search engine, because you seem to be struggling.
 
I've been able to dose really high with 122, 081 and 210. Tolerance builds fast though, I have found myself shooting for the nod each time I smoke.
 
^You catch a nod from those chems? That sounds like an atypical response, most people find them quite trippy and stimulating in high doses.
i guess i was struggling but you helped me thank you so much Yerg...
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You are welcome.
 
The only one I have tryed is K2 summit. I loaded a up a chillum. Very small pipe the can be lit at the top like a cig. I am fairly new marajuana smoker. Maybe I hace low THC tolerance. 3 or 4 hits of that and I was gone. I felt like I had smoked a whole blunt of at least standard grade weed. I am trying other stuff like this. Next time I go in my smoke shope I am asking the guy behind the counter what he would reccomend. I know he dosent use as herbal incense. I heard him talking about to another girl. Another bowl and I would have been out of it. I cant find a better connect where I am then I will have to stick with smokeing incenses. I also find I like smokeing etnobotanicals such wild dagga and blue lotus.
 
I've always had problems with anxiety and weed. Which is why I'll rarely smoke it. The funny thing is that the only way I can smoke it is if I'm on other drugs whether it be mdma, lsd or shrooms. Weed seems to strengthen the effects of other drugs without getting me high.
 
StarOceanHouse said:
I've always had problems with anxiety and weed. Which is why I'll rarely smoke it. The funny thing is that the only way I can smoke it is if I'm on other drugs whether it be mdma, lsd or shrooms. Weed seems to strengthen the effects of other drugs without getting me high.
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Good way of putting it...
 
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