Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

[muie]

I generally eat my pod grinds I never make tea, I can get down as much as 3-4 large size pods at once. That's why when it comes to bacteria and such I have to be careful.

For example when I break open a pod sometimes I get one or two that are extremily dark almost black on the inside where the seeds are. Sometimes if I smell like it is rotten I throw it out but some other times it doesn't smell rotten it just doesn't look white and clean like the other ones.

1. How can you spot a rotting pod?

2. What can a rotting pod do your body?

3. What do you do with pods that have dark to black on the inside shell (where the seeds are)?

I am thinking use them if desperate in tea as tea kills most of the bacteria at that temperature

p.s 4. In this weakest or strongest of pods, how much morphine would be in a gram of grinds?

I read on bluelight someone saying in between 0.1%-0.3% morphine so that would mean that in a gram of poppy grinds there is 100mg-300mg morphine! Does that sound right/correct to you?

 

[muie]

Forget about Noscapine, the most hallucinogenic opioid you will find is Demerol. Kratom is a bit fucked up as well, considering that kratom hits a lot of the same receptors Demerol does except kratom does it very gently while Demerol can do it massive.

p.s. For someone with absolutley zero opiate tolerence, one and a half pods, drank in 2 portions (1 cup, half cup now and half cup 3-4hrs later), created difficulty in the person trying to stay awake. Created feelings of nausea common with high doses, as well a cup or two of coffee was drank by the person to recover and the caffeine effects were completley drowned by the opiates. It could have easily been to much! This person gets sleepy nodding from as low as 30mg-60mg codeine or 0.5mg-0.75mg clonazepam.

The way the tea was sereved: one and half of another extra large sized pod grinded to fine powder, were put in a bowl with a few tea spoons of lemon extract, then some water that was just stopping to boil poured over the mixture and a plate covered over the bowl with the mixture for a 20-30 min infusion, then strained and served.

 

[dempdawg_2001]

I read on bluelight someone saying in between 0.1%-0.3% morphine so that would mean that in a gram of poppy grinds there is 100mg-300mg morphine! Does that sound right/correct to you?

.1% of 1 gram = .001 * 1 g = .001 g of morphine or 1 mg of morphine in one gram of poppy grinds.

assuming the info is correct.

 

[CretiNation]

3. What do you do with pods that have dark to black on the inside shell (where the seeds are)?

I am thinking use them if desperate in tea as tea kills most of the bacteria at that temperature

good god NO! those are THE most potent (and nasty tasting) pods in my experience but you are correct, do not try to eat them (you'll only gag), use them in tea and you'll see (rhyme!) what i'm talking about... room temp h2o will do just fine, so long as you filter!

 

[Arobskittle]

About those black insided pods that seem to have all the seeds stuck inside-

Sometimes they will be harboring some kind of mold, and sometimes the will just be the seeds stuck on the inside all retardedlike.

I don't know the cause of this but it seems like the seeds failed to develop or are deformed in some way. i think that they are also quite potent like the pod bled alot inside to cement all the seeds to the wall.

I went through a lot of pods recently that i harvested and i would see this regularly but not often-like 1 in a 100 or so. i would only use them it they didn't smell or look moldy and never had any issues

 

[muie]

Thank you!

1. Please can someone estimate how much morphine content is per gram of poppy grinds? What about codeine content?

- As for dempdawg's calculation regarding morphine concentration per gram of pod grinds, I find it hard to believe its so low as to 1mg-2mg/per gram!


2. Are the different less potent alkaloids (codeine, papaverine) located in higher concentrations in other parts of the plant (leaves, stems)?


3. Would eating those 'rotting' pods create any stomach problems or anything even more serious as opposed to tea?

- As I described them earlier they are smelling bad/like rotting, and look very black inside with tiny powder like seeds that stick a lot to the shell.

 

[Tsukasa]

Are the pods with blue stuff on them safe to ingest? It looks like mold to me.

Also, do the stems have any value? I just throw them out because they tend to taste like feces. I'm curious if the hard crowns have any value either.

Last question, does anyone have a paper on the pharmacology of thebaine? im curious to what it's mechanism of action is.

 

[QuasiStoned]

1. How can you spot a rotting pod?

Rotting pods are easily spotted because when you crack them open there will have either a black or white discoloration inside and oftentimes the mold looks fuzzy. If you take a whiff of them they smell terrible, and that should be your biggest clue not to put them into your body.

2. What can a rotting pod do your body?

At best, nothing. At worst, make you sick enough for a hospital visit (or perhaps even death in extreme circumstances). See, we have no clue what kind of mold could be festering inside our pods, and everyone reacts differently to mold so there is no way to say for sure. I have definitely heard of people getting violently ill from moldy pods so DO NOT RISK IT.

 

[ethnobot781]

Most people here refer to those as a French Press coffee maker. They work fine. I would just let the water boil, take it off the heat for a minute, then pour it in with your grounds. Stir it up occasionally, letting it soak for about 15-20 mins, then push the plunger down and pour. You might want to drop your favorite flavor of tea in there as well and use b grade maple syrup to sweeten.

So the French Press method is just another name for a cafetiere? Sounds like I'm sorted for a method and ready to go then Thanks for the prompt and informative response.

 

[Tsukasa]

Rotting pods are easily spotted because when you crack them open there will have either a black or white discoloration inside and oftentimes the mold looks fuzzy. If you take a whiff of them they smell terrible, and that should be your biggest clue not to put them into your body.


At best, nothing. At worst, make you sick enough for a hospital visit (or perhaps even death in extreme circumstances). See, we have no clue what kind of mold could be festering inside our pods, and everyone reacts differently to mold so there is no way to say for sure. I have definitely heard of people getting violently ill from moldy pods so DO NOT RISK IT.

What if the seeds are red?

 

[Arobskittle]

seeds can be black red blue grey brown orange or white

 

[QuasiStoned]

Yep, red seeds should be okay.

 

[The_Idler]

basically nothing in them.

 

[Stinknan]

P.Somniferum Quandry

Hi All

One of my first posts so greetings all.

Last year I threw some P.Somniferum pods on some common land outside my grandparents house. At least 5 plants have germinated and there are currently about 30 fat pods all with a brown ring at the bottom of the pod.

My problem is the plants are visible to at least 5 houses, so scoring the pods and collecting the latex is a bit difficult. I had a go last night but if my grandparents or their neighbours found out, they would be severely dissapointed.

I have 2 options

1 - cut the pods off at the stem, poke them in my manbag and quickly cycle home to score and collect as soon as I get back

2- Dig the whole plant up , shove it in my bag and score when I get home.

Now last time I cut some pods of at the stem, the pods didnt seem to bleed as much latex as they do on a live plant. Is this the case or was I simply unlucky with the couple of pods I cut at the stem?

Just to clarify, I planted the seeds and the plant is growing on common land, so I am not stealing it from anybody.

Any help advice would be appreciated

Thanks

StinkNan

 

[Stinknan]

Quick note, I Guess the question I should be asking is does some kind of reverse capiliary action take place if the stem and pod are removed from the plant...

Anyone?

 

[Tsukasa]

Regarding poppy pod crowns again:

Does anyone know anything about possible toxicity of the crowns? Anything bad in them? High concentrations of undesirable alkaloids maybe? They are a particularly different part of the pod so it's likely they have a different chemical profile from the rest of the plant.

I just tried a brew of pure crown grounds, the taste is exceptionally different from the shell flesh, still bitter but very tasty compared to the shell flesh or stem/nubs. A strong vanilla flavor. They seem to have some degree of potency, I think more so than the stem/nubs. But I've only just started testing the crown brew.

Good info. So they have some value at least.

I'm trying to diagnose what the problem is with my pods. They seem to yield a very strange intoxication. It takes longer than usual for the full effects to start. I get some of the warmness and euphoria, although not as much as I've had from previous batches. It's much more speedy (suggests high thebaine content). Thebaine as far as I know isn't safe or even a valuable alkaloid.

So my question is, has anyone else gotten a speedy, less than satisfying/weird batch? Are their certain points of harvest were the pods have exceptionally high thebaine content?

Yesterday while under the influence my heart or lungs were doing something weird, not sure what it was but it got me worried. But I'm most worried about getting convulsions from drinking this shit.

 

[Ufotofu9]

If seen by your grandparents or your average neighbor, do you think it's rational to think that they would come to the conclusion, " there's my grandson/that neighbor, scoring his poppy harvest to bleed out and collect the latex for opium."

That doesn't sound realistic, especially since you're just pruning the flowers around your grandparents house and you don't even know what P. Somniferum is.

 

[wungchow]

I just break off the pods and eat 'em whole. Tastes nasty but you get a nice 12 hour morphine buzz.

 

[wungchow]

Eating fresh poppy pods whole?

Has anyone else done this? I recently harvested quite a few, and I find that chewing up 5-6 pods gives me a nice, long-lasting buzz. Any dangers I should be aware of?

 

[Stinknan]

If seen by your grandparents or your average neighbor, do you think it's rational to think that they would come to the conclusion, " there's my grandson/that neighbor, scoring his poppy harvest to bleed out and collect the latex for opium."

Ok, I see where you are coming from. Personally I think the whole act of scoring and subsequent collection looks a bit shady...

Its probably best to cut the buggers off at the stem and rush them home for processing. Last week I managed to harvest a thumbnail sized lump of raw opium from about 6 pods. Not enough to bother defatting.

I just break off the pods and eat 'em whole

Does that not make you feel sick for hours??