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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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I usually just ignore the dots on the outside. The only time I think you can tell there is definitely a problem with a visual inspection is if there is coffee ground type mould inside or what looks like cobwebs.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
I usually just ignore the dots on the outside. The only time I think you can tell there is definitely a problem with a visual inspection is if there is coffee ground type mould inside or what looks like cobwebs.
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I was talking about fresh pods still growing...
 
They just started flowering about 5 days ago, I get about 5-10 pods flowering each day now. But fucking Mother Nature has made it pour fucking rain every day for the past three days. I'm talking about storming for the record books. She's such a bitch sometimes.
 
JayKay said:
had some nausea last night after pod tea to curb withdrawals
(but slept like a baby 10hrs! with the combo of 3pods PPT and 50MG diphenhydramine)

today made a weak batch with refigerated pod matter that I had brewed last night(and about a pod worth of new ground pod) - actually was able to brew something meaningful

this time I added some ginger root powder straight into the powder (which i had emptied in a plastic bag in order to try to ingest capsuls of Pod powder)

It was probably like 5 capsuls worth of ginger root supplement powder

no nausea at all! and tasted/smelled better too 8o - which could have just been something with my stomach last night, or the fact that it was a weaker batch.

when I brew a fresh batch @ bedtime , i'll try again and see if it continues to hold off nausea.
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What are you WD'ing from and what type of habit did you have? Are they homegrown pods or did you order them?
 
same shit happened to me when it came time to harvest it was a period at the end of april early may that it rained around here almost every day for two weeks it sucked
 
I am about to purchase a soxhlet extractor to use to defat my pod tea but do not know whether to get the the 25ml (£168 ), 125ml (£169) or the largest extractor system, 250ml (£202) or whether the largest one is even big enough for my purposes. I will be defatting tea made from 5kg gross weight from pods (which include the seeds and everything except for the stems). Can someone tell me which one would be the best to buy?
 
I have found a link to the entire article Jim Hogshire (an excellent drug using journalist/writer) wrote for Harper's Magazine about the legality of growing and harvesting poppies in America. It is an excellent article, very interesting, and should shed some light on the subject to those of you considering growing poppies.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8851855/Opium-Made-Easy

:)

If you are interested in his other works, he has written a good first hand account of DXM use (The Electric Cough Syrup Acid Test), available on Erowid's DXM vault.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
I am about to purchase a soxhlet extractor to use to defat my pod tea but do not know whether to get the the 25ml (£168 ), 125ml (£169) or the largest extractor system, 250ml (£202) or whether the largest one is even big enough for my purposes. I will be defatting tea made from 5kg gross weight from pods (which include the seeds and everything except for the stems). Can someone tell me which one would be the best to buy?
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I've never even heard about a Soxhlet before reading your post; although, I must say I am glad I've learned of such a piece of equipment. Anyways, after looking into using it on some MHRB for a DMT extraction I came across this.

The guy has a 500ml Soxhlet and is using 100g of plant (MHRB) material and is having a problem with it being too much plant matter.

"SWIM was under the impression that 500 ml soxhlets could handle 250g of MHRB but it doesnt look like it could being that it was so full w/ 100g"
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=16912

From the looks of it, even if you got the 250ml Soxhlet, you'd need 20 of them for 5kg of dried pods. I think it would be for something like unprocessed Opium. Even then I am not sure, because typically, a Soxhlet extraction is only required where the desired compound has a limited solubility in a solvent, and the impurity is insoluble in that solvent. If the desired compound has a high solubility in a solvent (which Morphine does) then a simple filtration can be used to separate the compound from the insoluble substance.

Hope this helps.
 
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That tool is largely not needed with mimosa, because the plant has very little fatty tissue/oils. You can crash clean product out of your first straight to base non-polar pull:boom, spice.

Ariticial Emotion: one could concentrate tea into ~250ml if heated gently, stirred often and put under a fan getting it to a reasonable/usable volume for that device. Fun thought experiment.
 
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I agree, I'd use it in some other things that contain DMT, as in, some of the Phalaris grasses.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
I will be defatting tea made from 5kg gross weight from pods (which include the seeds and everything except for the stems).
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There is your problem right there, why the hell are you grinding up the seeds? They add no opiates, seeds from whole dried pods have no opium residue.
All you're doing is making the resulting pod powder greasy and very perishable, I would not let anything with ground poppy seeds in it sit for long.

Next time you make tea don't grind the seeds, just the pod. Try it and I bet you'll like it much better.
 
garuda said:
There is your problem right there, why the hell are you grinding up the seeds? They add no opiates, seeds from whole dried pods have no opium residue.
All you're doing is making the resulting pod powder greasy and very perishable, I would not let anything with ground poppy seeds in it sit for long.

Next time you make tea don't grind the seeds, just the pod. Try it and I bet you'll like it much better.
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Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I meant that I'm only using the pod capsule itself, not the seeds, crown or stems. Whenever I make tea I keep the seeds for cultivation and bin the crowns and stems usually. I misspoke.

Cocorosie said:
I've never even heard about a Soxhlet before reading your post; although, I must say I am glad I've learned of such a piece of equipment. Anyways, after looking into using it on some MHRB for a DMT extraction I came across this.

The guy has a 500ml Soxhlet and is using 100g of plant (MHRB) material and is having a problem with it being too much plant matter.

"SWIM was under the impression that 500 ml soxhlets could handle 250g of MHRB but it doesnt look like it could being that it was so full w/ 100g"
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=16912

From the looks of it, even if you got the 250ml Soxhlet, you'd need 20 of them for 5kg of dried pods. I think it would be for something like unprocessed Opium. Even then I am not sure, because typically, a Soxhlet extraction is only required where the desired compound has a limited solubility in a solvent, and the impurity is insoluble in that solvent. If the desired compound has a high solubility in a solvent (which Morphine does) then a simple filtration can be used to separate the compound from the insoluble substance.

Hope this helps.
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No, I'm using it on the pod putty, which should be a LOT less than 5kg. The 5kg is the gross weight of everything including seeds, crowns and stems (which I will be discarding anyway).

So you are saying I can remove fats and waxes with a simple filtration? That's what wikipedia says but I'm not so sure.
 
Artificial Emotion said:
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I meant that I'm only using the pod capsule itself, not the seeds, crown or stems. Whenever I make tea I keep the seeds for cultivation and bin the crowns and stems usually. I misspoke.
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Ah sorry, if you don't mind my asking whats your goal with the extraction?
If you're trying to get pure morphine I'd say do a search, there has been a TON of guides that should work in theory yet I don't remember one person successfully extracting morphine from pods. One guy had a post where he used $XX worth of pods followed the methods that sounded right and it was a total waste.

I simply don't think its practical cost or time wise to do this.
 
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Next person who posts a price here in regards to pods, or any other drug is getting an infraction.
 
garuda said:
Ah sorry, if you don't mind my asking whats your goal with the extraction?
If you're trying to get pure morphine I'd say do a search, there has been a TON of guides that should work in theory yet I don't remember one person successfully extracting morphine from pods. One guy had a post where he used $XX worth of pods followed the methods that sounded right and it was a total waste.

I simply don't think its practical cost or time wise to do this.
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The end goal is relatively pure morphine.

I have done quite a bit of research and I do think it is possible, although obviously there will be some losses. I read that thread on BL where the guy tried an extraction but I didn't like his method TBH.

Process for Extracting and Purifying Morphine From Opium

http://drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38937

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43369

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83296

http://books.google.co.uk/books? id=MfQ4AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA417&dq=morphine+extract&lr=&num=100&as_brr=0&ei=snw9StCNEIewzATSvL26BQ

http://www.erowid.org/cgi-bin/search/htsearch.php?config=&restrict=www.erowid.org%2Farchive%2Frhodium%2F&exclude=&words=morphine+extraction

I don't think the soxhlet extraction is even necessary with the paraffin and ice-tek methods.
 
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Well i tried eating ground up pods instead of making tea, and wow, it really works. what kind of yogurt do you guys use do help eating it? i can eat like 1/4 cup easily but after that it just becomes a chore to keep spooning it into my mouth and drinking grapefruit juice down. gets pretty nasty.

im thinking of getting chocolate pudding. chocolate will mask the taste of a lot of things. plus i was using strawberry yogurt and it tasted fuckin horrible. it was so bitter i pretty much had to gulp it down real fast. and 1/4 cup of ground material in a cup or 2 of yogurt is fuckin gross
 
I would suggest grapfruit juice mixed with grounds or throwing them into blender with a whole grapefruit. you'll get rid of the hard sandlike texture by soaking them in liquid for a short while, like 20 mins or so. You'll get thick juice that pretty easy to just gulp down as the taste of grapefruit will mask bitterness of the grounds really well.
 
holy shit, easiest way by far. i pretty much just got half a cup down with a small glass of grapefruit juice in 30 seconds. and i didn't taste shit!

looks like im done with the tea now. its so much easier to just drink down some grounds. dont have to make tea, dont have to wait for it to get cold and drink it, dont have to deal with the taste.

tea seems to be a different high though. when i eat the grounds i catch really hard nods, but i dont get all itchy like i do with tea. it feels like something is missing that i get with the tea high but not with eating the grounds.

still though, eating them uses about half what i would use to make tea. it still fucks me up hard too. looks like im probably just gonna start eating from now on.
 
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