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Can this be ingested?

Is it effective if put into a capsule and what is the recommended dose for oral consumption?
 
JWH-018 = Stoner Crack

I smoked ~ 3 grams of -018 this summer and each time the high was equivalent to blazing a strong, pure sativa. Great stuff. "Mechanical" or "Cold" or "Chemical" feeling? No way. Indistinguishable from elite A+ dispensary cannabis, imo.

The smoking ritual may be cold or mechanical (it certainly tastes like shit); anyone, any day, would prefer an iced and perc'd glass bong with a fresh bowl of green to JWH-018. Pot has a social value, a pass around the bong value, that JWH compounds completely lack, and that influences the high for a lot of people. But, being as objective as one can be when baked, the high, in and of itself, is indistuingishable.

Until...

Forty-five minutes later. And you're not high anymore. At all. I mean your brain is still a little foggy but the intense, why am i in the kitchen holding a spatua?, sativa stone has diminished, RAPIDLY, to a pitiful little buzz.

WTF? Rip-off! Not satisfying!

Like whippets, aka "Hippie Crack", where people tend to compulsively screw nitrous cartridges into a worn out balloon, the same tendency exists with JWH-018. If you're prone to compulsive drug use (be it with hippie crack or crack crack) you'll likely have the same issue with JWH-018.

I certainly did. If it ran out it was no big deal. I wouldn't crawl around the carpet looking for specks of -018 or pimp out my girlfriend to get more, but I rarely, if ever, just smoked "once". A session with -018 always turned into full-on smoking sessions -- dose and repeat, dose and repeat, dose and repeat -- which I wouldn't do with cannabis alone. I always felt a little seedy afterward, as binging on anything involving a clear, homemade glass pipe is wont to do.

Stoner Crack.
 
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Observations while making a tinture of JWH-018

A 1g supply of JWH-018 has arrived and am experimenting with making a tincture. I just wanted to share the results thus far.

Setup:

50ml - water
150ml - ethanol (190 proof)
1g - JWH-018
About 250ml glass jar with a metal lid

Observations:

JWH-018 had a very slight yellow tint, was a powder, and was not crystalline.
Out of curiosity, the 1g of JWH-018 was poured into the 50ml of water.
As you can guess, nothing dissolved.
The water was then heated to near boiling and stirred with the handle of a stainless steel spoon. The JWH-018 turned into a sticky glob that attached itself to the stainless steel at the end of the spoon and it still would not dissolve. It was also now yellower due to condensing into a clump/blob (this hot viscus blob is VERY sticky). The spoon was pulled out and the 018 left to cool at the end. It became stiff like old dry pre-chewed gum. It wasn't left to cool long enough to see if would become very hard.
150ml of ethanol was added the the 50ml of water and heated to boiling. The spoon end with the blob of 018 was placed in the ethanol mixture. The blob melted and fell off of the spoon-end. It sank very quickly to the bottom of the liquid. The blob was poked, stirred (broke into many little blobs), and prodded for quite a few minutes until it completely dissolved.

The mixture (looks very clear, not cloudy at all) has since been sealed and refrigerated. No further experimenting as of yet. The goal was to be able to use a 1ml pipette to be able to easily and accurately administer 5mg of 018.

There's been much talk about vaporizing and smoking JWH-018, so I thought I'd add this and would like to get your thoughts. It seems that, since it is already mostly pure and even transdermal, that orally administering it would be preferable. Anyway, still reading up on the toxicology as much as possible. Another 1g sample is on the way from a different source and more information will be posted.

Also, it smells like some sort of plastic.

EDIT: Have to say, the smell and texture of JWH-018 when blobbed together and warm, is something left to be desired. Quite disturbing; triggers some sort of internal mechanism that warns to stay far away from it.

EDIT 2: After the solution has sat for about 20 hours in a very cold refrigerator (hovering just above 32degF), clear free-floating crystals have formed on the bottom of the jar resembling what looks like about 1g worth. This is very interesting. It could be pure JWH-018 and any impurities are still dissolved in the solution. I will be separating out these crystals from the solution.

Question is, are those clear crystals the JWH-018? hmm
 
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Question is, are those clear crystals the JWH-018? hmm
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If you've got ~1g of crystals (or anything vaguely close to it), yes, they are.

Are they a beautiful white/clear? Or that nasty off-white?

What you've just done is called "recrystalizing", if you were able to purify JWH-18 by recrystalization from 75% ethanol i'll be following the same procedure for JWH-73
 
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Anyway, still reading up on the toxicology as much as possible.
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The more you learn about JWH, the less you will want to do it.

Regardless, what you've discribed sounds impressive. I'd love to see a picture of your recrystallized JWH.
 
TheAzo said:
If you've got ~1g of crystals (or anything vaguely close to it), yes, they are.

Are they a beautiful white/clear? Or that nasty off-white?

What you've just done is called "recrystalizing", if you were able to purify JWH-18 by recrystalization from 75% ethanol i'll be following the same procedure for JWH-73
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Yes, beautiful transparent crystals. In order to crystallize though, the temp had to come back down to about 32degF. I figured that there was probably quite a bit left in the solution that hadn't crystallized so I decided just to leave it alone. I bet that if the solution was poured off and the crystals exposed to a higher temp (room temp) they'd melt into the off-white stuff again... just thinking that the crystals, without being suspended in a very cold thick medium (ethanol-water vs. air) will fade in beauty... melt. I bet the normal state at room temp of JWH-018 is a hard-ish plastic like substance.
 
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chainer3k said:
The more you learn about JWH, the less you will want to do it.

Regardless, what you've discribed sounds impressive. I'd love to see a picture of your recrystallized JWH.
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I might get a chance to crystallize the solution again and I'll try and take a picture (bad camera).
 
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Coolio said:
Uh. What does a "case" have to do with being arrested? Police officers arrest people; on the spot. If a police officer finds a small white baggy of powder on your person, it doesn't matter WHAT the label says on it, they're going to lie to you and say it field tested positive for cocaine or heroin and arrest you for possession. They have no incentive to properly test the substance. That's your problem.

You will be required to prove your innocence in a court of law at a later date and time. I hope you have bail money.

If a police officer makes a bad arrest, you can still spend months in jail waiting on a trial if you can't afford bail and a proper lawyer.
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I agree that in the USA the theory of "innocent until proven guilty" is in most cases backwards. But at the same time if you are stupid enough to be walking around with a zip lock bag of JWH in your possession without using some precautions beforehand, then quite frankly you deserve to be arrested. It's usually the dumb people that f$^& up all the good stuff for everyone else. Use some common sense (k.i.s.s) and you lessen the chances of getting yourself in a pickle with the worthless donut munchers!
 
Basically accidentally dosed about 40mgs by smoking yesterday? Obviously i vomited etc. racing heart etc.

any words of advice to anything i can do to help my body, only now i realise the true carcinogenic potential and would like any advice if any can be given.

I tell the members on this forum know their stuff.

Thanks in advance, and of course any help is welcome. :)
 
Coolio said:
No, JWH-* have no structural similarity and are not derived from cannabinol or THC. They're not illegal anywhere in the USA.
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yup. so why discuss it? and in CD??

shit gets old and boring. it's dumb. "does JWH-BLA BLA whatever get you high? is it like weed? what if you mix it with ______?"

same shit over and over.

and hating on JWH isn't weed-snobbery. if i didn't have weed, i just wouldn't smoke.
 
respect marley said:
Basically accidentally dosed about 40mgs by smoking yesterday? Obviously i vomited etc. racing heart etc.

any words of advice to anything i can do to help my body, only now i realise the true carcinogenic potential and would like any advice if any can be given.

I tell the members on this forum know their stuff.

Thanks in advance, and of course any help is welcome. :)
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Needn't worry as the theory for it being carcinogenic is unproven. Even if it were carcinogenic, tobacco smoke is KNOWN to contain a large amount of carcinogens, as does anything you smoke.




Regarding the effects of the compound, so close to weed its amazing and has saved me alot of money on the real thing. Unfortunately as of today its classified as a class B drug here in the UK. :X

From The Times
December 23, 2009
Three 'legal highs' banned after deaths linked to the drugs
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6965663.ece
 
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if it was carcinogenic it would probably be about on the level of smoking a cigarette or something. i'm pretty sure sweet 'n low was proven to be carcinogenic...i remember many years ago when I was a kid, they still had the black box warning on the package that says it causes cancer.
 
hx_ said:
Regarding the effects of the compound, so close to weed its amazing and has saved me alot of money on the real thing. Unfortunately as of today its classified as a class B drug here in the UK. :X

From The Times
December 23, 2009
Three 'legal highs' banned after deaths linked to the drugs
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article6965663.ece
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wow that really sucks, They didnt outlaw the certain strains of SC's they outlawed all synthetics, So P.e.p pourri will no longer be I guess, Because I was thinking it comes from the UK. Hmm... I wondering how much longer we have here in the U.S?
 
Can someone post a picture of like a 4mg dose?

[we dont do swim here]
 
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FPU4eva said:
but can someone post a pic? a million thanks!
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nobody is going to advocate you eyeballing doses, so with that said, I think I gave you a pretty standard example for you to understand about how much 4 mg is.

Smaller than the tip of a match:

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Meaning, start off with a quarter of that size, then if that doesn't work for you, move up to half that size... etc. etc. etc.
 
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